La Vergne residents - 100 percent increase in the city’s property tax rate

#5
#5
I grew up there. The city has exploded from a population standpoint and has nowhere near the funds necessary to deal with the influx because of the unwillingness of the population to allow any sort of tax increase. The same people that are pushing back against this are the people who are *****ing that there aren't enough police officers to deal with the increasing crime rate. The place has gone to absolute ****.
 
#6
#6
the city should roll back the increase and just raise their assessments like most cities (including mine). Then they can still run on the fact that they didn't raise taxes and stupid people will believe them
 
#7
#7
My aunt and uncle have lived in LaVergne for close to 30 years. I'm sure they are delighted about this increase.
 
#8
#8
LaVerne is the new Antioch
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#10
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I did appreciate this line -

“They should cut expenses like every business does,” Webb said.
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I seriously doubt there is a business business there hasn't increased sales price in 18 years.
 
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utvolpj said:
the city should roll back the increase and just raise their assessments like most cities (including mine). Then they can still run on the fact that they didn't raise taxes and stupid people will believe them
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That's what they do here as well.
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#12
#12
I wouldnt mind a 1 year double of my rate, if the buried all the electrical and phone lines and put up nice street lamps in my neighborhood. But no way if it goes to some dudes pension
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
I wouldnt mind a 1 year double of my rate, if the buried all the electrical and phone lines and put up nice street lamps in my neighborhood. But no way if it goes to some dudes pension
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Delusion. You're not burying your utility structures for that amount.
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JTrainDavis said:
Delusion. You're not burying your utility structures for that amount.
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I dont know what it would cost, but I would love it and would be willing to pay. I live in a old neighborhood where some streets have poles while others dont. I would really like some fancy lamp posts
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
I dont know what it would cost, but I would love it and would be willing to pay. I live in a old neighborhood where some streets have poles while others dont. I would really like some fancy lamp posts
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You could always try to gather some likeminded individuals in your neighborhood or on your street, pool enough money together, and then bring that money to the city with your request.
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tigervol9802 said:
I did appreciate this line -

I seriously doubt there is a business business there hasn't increased sales price in 18 years.
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The problem with the comparison is a city government has a few advantages. A business has to convince people to buy their product. Government forcefully collects tax revenue. With increases in population a city should experience economies of scale and be able to provide many city services at less cost per person.
 
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nbakerld said:
The problem with the comparison is a city government has a few advantages. A business has to convince people to buy their product. Government forcefully collects tax revenue. With increases in population a city should experience economies of scale and be able to provide many city services at less cost per person.
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"Should" is the key word there.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
I dont know what it would cost, but I would love it and would be willing to pay. I live in a old neighborhood where some streets have poles while others dont. I would really like some fancy lamp posts
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For electrical, phone, and CATV, probably $300 a foot, low end.
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justingroves said:
"Should" is the key word there.
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Well, no matter what they actually do experience economies of scale. The "should" part comes into play when we are talking about whether or not they were able to take advantage of the economies of scale.
 
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nbakerld said:
Well, no matter what they actually do experience economies of scale. The "should" part comes into play when we are talking about whether or not they were able to take advantage of the economies of scale.
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Not when more people = more services.
 
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tigervol9802 said:
Not when more people = more services.
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No matter what they will experience economies of scale on MANY services. You are right, not on all. Let's take the example of the police department:

Fixed Cost = Building, garage, dispatch, etc.
Variable Cost = size of police force

So this is a rather simplistic view, but when population increases they may have to hire more policemen (variable cost increases in total, but not per capita). They don't need a new department, or a 2nd police chief, etc. (fixed cost is now split among a larger population). Thus the per capita cost of policing the city has decreased.
 
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nbakerld said:
No matter what they will experience economies of scale on MANY services. You are right, not on all. Let's take the example of the police department:

Fixed Cost = Building, garage, dispatch, etc.
Variable Cost = size of police force

So this is a rather simplistic view, but when population increases they may have to higher more policemen (variable cost increases in total numbers, but not per person), but they don't need a new department, a 2nd police chief, etc. (fixed cost is now split among a larger population). Thus the per person cost of policing the city has decreased.
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Yes, but you also need -

-Bigger and/or more schools
-Probably a bigger jail
-A second or third fire department depending on size of your town
-More buses, police cards, fire engines, other costs for these as well as regular maintenance
-More maintenance on street/roads because of increased traffic causes them to deterriorte faster
-Nevermind your police chiefs, fire chiefs and other higher ups in city services are probably going to want (and deserve) raises for increased workload and stress

Of course, I'm not even factoring in that for economies of scale to function properly that each person moving in to the city would require the same or less government services per what they pay into the system as those already living there. Typically, this isn't the case.
 
#25
#25
While we're at it, let's also not forget federal and state mandates on things such as classroom size which also cripple the argument of economies of scale even more at the local government level b/c it's not going to allow it to function properly.
 
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