Last Vol Team to Overachieve?

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Recently, Dave Hart said that he believed that we will overachieve under Coach Jones. This made me wonder. What was the last Vol team that truly overachieved, VolNation? Second question, is Hart correct and, if so, what will that mean record-wise in 2013?

For my part, I think we have underachieved for a long time. Even our BCS Championship team did not really overachieve, in my opinion. I really think they were the most talented team that year. I would say the 1985 team that won the '86 Sugar Bowl, with Daryl Dickey at QB, is the only one that pops out immediately.

As to what overachieving might look like: I put together a table which shows the total Rivals recruiting points for the last 5 classes: 2009-2013.

Obviously, we've lost a lot of our recruits. Auburn has as well. Still, this is one interesting gauge to determine the relative status of each program.

TALE OF THE RECRUITING TAPE: 2009-2013


Obviously, Bama. :sick:

Interestingly, Florida is right there, with nearly as high a percentage of 4 & 5 star recruits.

Oregon and South Carolina jump out at me as teams that have probably overachieved.

Obviously, Vandy is an overachiever, and not just at sucking for once.

I think most of us agree that playing up to our recruiting ranking, considering the player attrition, would be overachieving. That would mean an 8-4 season and a bowl trip.

I would not consider 7-5 overachieving because one of the teams above us in recruiting, Auburn, has gone through a mini program implosion. However, if we can get the 8th win in a bowl I would still say we overachieved.

6-6 would be a meeting-the-most-basic-expectations kind of season. I agree with Hart and say we do better.

Note: two of our opponents have no ranked players per Rivals and are not listed. If we lose to one of those teams I will spontaneously combust.

It might be interesting to run these numbers again, with attrition, draftees and injuries subtracted from the totals. It would be best to do in late August once actual game rosters are set. Hopefully we don't lose anyone between now and then!
 
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98-99 team definitely overachieved, compared to expectations. They are the last team. We haven't done it since.
 
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I felt like the 2004 team with Riggs and Houston going for 1000 a piece and a mixed bag at qb overachieved by making the sec championship game. That was a very solid team.
 
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2004 team overachieved, up until we lost Schaeffer and Ainge. Notre Dame game was the only one we messed up, and that is only because Sanders put Ainge at risk with the hail mary before the half.
 
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I'll say 2006 simply because I don't think anyone realized the difference Cutcliffe could make on a team when he came back.
 
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04. It was one the best coaching jobs Fulmer and Sanders did handling the 2 freshmen qbs and then Clausen.
 
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I didn't know Phil overachieved in the 2000's at all. Didn't he have all those highly ranked recruiting classes? I'd say 98 was the last time.
 
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2007. Won out and made it to the SEC Championship game. Was one Ainge throw away from beating LSU.
 
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I'll say 2006 simply because I don't think anyone realized the difference Cutcliffe could make on a team when he came back.

Some people criticize his play calling but there is no question he is one of the best qb coaches.
 
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Why do you youngsters always overlook the Neyland years? That's the era that put Tennessee football into the record books to stay.
 
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See thread(s) entitled (something like)"statistics tell the story, 1-3" from about September 2012 for a similar analysis in greater detail.

Interesting stuff. I'm at the beach on my phone, or I would post the link.
 
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I may get killed for this but I think 2009 under Kiffin we really did better than I thought, We pounded UGA and destroyed USCe on Halloween. Really had me excited for the future until that cold cold night....In Butch we trust.
 
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I may get killed for this but I think 2009 under Kiffin we really did better than I thought, We pounded UGA and destroyed USCe on Halloween.

I was going to say '09 as well. Starting the season we had Crompton at QB, who had done nothing up to that point, even losing his starting spot at one point his jr season until his replacement proved to be even more ineffective. His only 2 veteran WRs, D. Moore and G. Jones, both hurt at the start of the '09 season. An inexperienced and undersized OL that included 2 walkons. To make matters worse for the offense, Hardesty had been injured most of his career, so no one expected much from him, so his breakout season was completely unexpected. Very little SEC-caliber talent on defense other than Berry and Rogan. Early in the season I did not see any way that team could have won 7 games including whipping UGA and SCar.
 
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Slight nod to 2009.

2004 is the obvious answer. Won the division with a true freshman qb.

09 isn't a bad choice. That team had Crompton, two walk on OL, and lacked depth basically at nearly every major position.

Some people laugh at the thought of the 98 team overachieving. Many must forget that team started the season ranked anywhere from 13-17 pre-season. Plus losing the best UT QB ever (possibly best UT player ever), along with Jamal Lewis early in the season.

Then turned right around and under-achieved in 99' BIGTIME IMO. smdh
 
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2006. Nobody expected us to come out and put the beatdown on Cal, especially after the abysmal '05 season.
 
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I felt like the 2004 team with Riggs and Houston going for 1000 a piece and a mixed bag at qb overachieved by making the sec championship game. That was a very solid team.

yeah good pick, never thought a pair of freshmans & clausen would get us to SEC champ game that year
 
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09 isn't a bad choice. That team had Crompton, two walk on OL, and lacked depth basically at nearly every major position.

Some people laugh at the thought of the 98 team overachieving. Many must forget that team started the season ranked anywhere from 13-17 pre-season. Plus losing the best UT QB ever (possibly best UT player ever), along with Jamal Lewis early in the season.

Then turned right around and under-achieved in 99' BIGTIME IMO. smdh

They actually came out ranked #10
 

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