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NurseGoodVol said:
I'm seeing much the same. Since I'm going to be traveling it'll just give me more perspective.
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Please let us know what you see and if it is different in other areas..... it’s funny bc several people I know that are not health care workers are freaking out about this while the majority of healthcare workers I talk to from other areas are questioning the validity of a lot of these claims.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
LOL...Does the idiot Trump lying about it and playing it down make you feel better?

I know two people who have been hospitalized for it.
I know someone who had it but also had heart disease and died and it was labeled as a heart related death, BUT covid was the catalyst for death

Yes, it is ok to question things about it. Plenty of people stay informed about it and have a completely different opinion than you. Most health professionals question things about it every day and most of them have a different opinion than you and many of our resident right wingers
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I’m not a right winger..... I’m an independent bc the number one thing I believe in is free thinking...... being a republican/democrat seems to eliminate any sort of independent thinking amongst the masses..... I don’t care what trump thinks or says about this illness..... I want truth and not the BS we are being given by all sides...... how do you know how that persons death was labeled if you are not a healthcare provider? I do feel this illness is real but I have a feeling it is being extremely over exaggerated.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I’m not a right winger..... I’m an independent bc the number one thing I believe in is free thinking...... being a republican/democrat seems to eliminate any sort of independent thinking amongst the masses..... I don’t care what trump thinks or says about this illness..... I want truth and not the BS we are being given by all sides...... how do you know how that persons death was labeled if you are not a healthcare provider? I do feel this illness is real but I have a feeling it is being extremely over exaggerated.
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Maybe, but 130,000 have died from it

His wife told me about it
 
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How exactly does the economy work if everyone gets $2k per person per month? If you work at Amazon and you and your wife get $4k to stay home why would you go in? Why would anyone work at grocery stores, retail, restaurants, etc? How does an apartment complex stay afloat if no one is paying rent? The landlord that is no longer receiving rent but still owes property taxes? I’m sure there are easy answers to these questions that I’m simply missing.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Maybe, but 130,000 have died from it

His wife told me about it
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That would be surprising since that hospital would be throwing away money by not counting it as a covid death..... I want to know the exact number that was directly caused by covid..... for example: there is a hospice patient tested positive for covid and died the next day..... she was counted as a covid death even though she had no symptoms..... States, facilities, and hospitals are being incentivized to count things as covid.... From what I have seen, this is a very dangerous illness to the very elderly or very sick but mainly inconsequential to the rest of us.
 
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volbeast33 said:
That would be surprising since that hospital would be throwing away money by not counting it as a covid death..... I want to know the exact number that was directly caused by covid..... for example: there is a hospice patient tested positive for covid and died the next day..... she was counted as a covid death even though she had no symptoms..... States, facilities, and hospitals are being incentivized to count things as covid.... From what I have seen, this is a very dangerous illness to the very elderly or very sick but mainly inconsequential to the rest of us.
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The feds are distributing money to facilities based on how many COVID patients they have. They are also covering 100% of COVID costs for uninsured people. Utilization(and therefore revenue) has plummeted. Hospitals would be stupid to not label everyone they can as a COVID patient.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
The feds are distributing money to facilities based on how many COVID patients they have. They are also covering 100% of COVID costs for uninsured people. Utilization(and therefore revenue) has plummeted. Hospitals would be stupid to not label everyone they can as a COVID patient.
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I agree..... that’s why I am curious to know the real numbers
 
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lawgator1 said:
99 percent of cases are totally harmless.

-- D. Trump. July 4, 2020
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Honestly is he wrong tho. The death rate is less than a percent. Many who are testing positive its either because they have the antibodies or mild symptoms. The time of being scared of this thing is behind us. Its time to open up and get everything back on track
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Honestly is he wrong tho. The death rate is less than a percent. Many who are testing positive its either because they have the antibodies or mild symptoms. The time of being scared of this thing is behind us. Its time to open up and get everything back on track
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Booo! LG has some arbitrary number of deaths that we have crossed that justifies tanking the US into a 3rd world nation.
 
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allvol123 said:
Booo! LG has some arbitrary number of deaths that we have crossed that justifies tanking the US into a 3rd world nation.
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He’s awfully quiet about criticizing Cuomo and other Governors for sticking sick people in nursing homes. Which, again, that’s 40% of the deaths regarding this virus.
 
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allvol123 said:
Booo! LG has some arbitrary number of deaths that we have crossed that justifies tanking the US into a 3rd world nation.
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Personally I believe that's what China wants. I personally believe they released it as a form of population control in their own country and they purposely didnt tell anyone to let it spread and they wanted it to reach the US to see how we reacted. At this point China wants us to keep this shutdown going for as long as possible to tank our economy in hopes that it makes us more dependent on China and spirals the country deeper into debt with them.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Personally I believe that's what China wants. I personally believe they released it as a form of population control in their own country and they purposely didnt tell anyone to let it spread and they wanted it to reach the US to see how we reacted. At this point China wants us to keep this shutdown going for as long as possible to tank our economy in hopes that it makes us more dependent on China and spirals the country deeper into debt with them.
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If that was their plan they would have developed a vaccine first.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Please let us know what you see and if it is different in other areas..... it’s funny bc several people I know that are not health care workers are freaking out about this while the majority of healthcare workers I talk to from other areas are questioning the validity of a lot of these claims.
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From what I'm hearing we are at the tail end of the virulence and all the media is doing is trying to catapult us back to April.
It is not now or ever going to be like it was in March through May. Viruses follow a predictable pattern. Where does everyone think they come up with models from. Hint: previous viral patterns.
The virus is pretty much done what it's going to do. Looking for a job I've noticed there are travel jobs that no longer offer covid19 pay because in 3 months it's going to be a rarity to see a case. What I'm hearing from my friends in the area is that the hospital population is now all nursing home pts with rare exceptions. That is what I saw myself with my hospital.

Deaths are down and will go down even further now they have discovered what cause of the blood dyscrasia that is leading to these pts clotting so horrendously. They clotted around any line you put in them. They stroked quickly and with permanent damage leading to death. We now know how to better handle it and it'll be a Dr visit with steroids, antivirals and take an aspirin. That's what it will come down to in the future except rare cases.
I think people are commenting on best guesses just like I am. I think this is extremely overplayed right now.
 
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Secret Chinese vaccines? Trump is a source of anything remotely accurate?

This forum jumped the shark probably five years ago.

Now we have flown over a school of them.
 
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