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0nelilreb said:
-Ugh .
-Are you another VN Attorney ? You argue like an attorney .
-The data in Clays is no more irrelevant than the data in the one you are trying really hard to defend .
-I haven’t been upset about any of it .
-I specifically said I don’t believe it’s possible to have in TRUE numbers
- I explain in detail why this is ( 👆🏼) and I noticed you conveniently skipped over that reasoning .
- I can actually have a meaningful discussion about all of it AND also still unequivocally state that True Covid numbers is a fallacy and impossible to prove beard on the fact that their are multiple standards and procedures being used to set policy and agendas .
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... still think you are an Attorney .
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An attorney, no just someone with a solid enough grasp of the English language to understand that words and phrases have actual meaning; you seem to want to dance around that fact.

Still not sure why you are are getting upset at people who don't take Clay Travis' Tweets to be on the same level as peer-reviewed studies and official numbers from state and local health departments, given that you have stated that you don't believe any numbers regardless of who posts them.
 
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BeardedVol said:
An attorney, no just someone with a solid enough grasp of the English language to understand that words and phrases have actual meaning; you seem to want to dance around that fact.

Still not sure why you are are getting upset at people who don't take Clay Travis's Tweets to be on the same level as peer-reviewed studies and official numbers from state and local health departments, given that you have stated that you don't believe any numbers regardless of who posts them.
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-I actually went straight to the fact . You just didn’t like how I chose to present it , didn’t fit into your attempted argument of who’s # are right .

-once again .. I haven’t been upset at any time ( that’s twice now I’ve had to keep you from assigning something to me that isn’t true and has been shown to be true )

- once again I’ve had to point out how astronomically impossible it would be to come up with the TRUE Covid numbers because of the multiple ... ( fill in the blank)

- I still don’t believe you aren’t some type of attorney .. you just have that car salesman vibe in the way you argue a point .
 
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0nelilreb said:
-I actually went straight to the fact . You just didn’t like how I chose to present it , didn’t fit into your attempted argument of who’s # are right .

-once again .. I haven’t been upset at any time ( that’s twice now I’ve had to keep you from assigning something to me that isn’t true and has been shown to be true )

- once again I’ve had to point out how astronomically impossible it would be to come up with the TRUE Covid numbers because of the multiple ... ( fill in the blank)

- I still don’t believe you aren’t some type of attorney .. you just have that car salesman vibe in the way you argue a point .
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If your experience with attorneys or the way attorneys speak, involves car salesmen, then that would explain a lot of the content in your posts
 
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Septic said:
What? They aren't relying on herd immunity...

They've just done a FAR better job of what Fauci and Birx have been screaming for a LONG time.

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They simply have competent leadership who relied on science instead of "leadership" that pretended it was a hoax and gave it's citizens mixed messages.
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I wasn’t talking about their overall response..... they hid like crazy.... opened back up around June and had to shut down some again due to a new spike in cases on June 25..... I was talking about the way they protected the elderly and the sick.... They did an amazing job protecting the ones likely to die or have serious health complications from this disease.... I’m advocating for a combination of what Sweden and Germany did to fight this illness.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Would people like yourself be constantly soiling themselves over the drug had Trump not touted it?
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I don't care about that drug one way or the other. If it is effective, then by all means, use it. However, Dr. Anthony Fauci has consistently said that it is not, and that remains the consensus opinion of epidemiologists and virologists who have gone on record with an opinion, one way or the other. Dr. Anthony Fauci has served as the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984. He is a non-partisan, health care professional, with well-established credentials. Meanwhile, Dr. Fauci's critics are mostly comprised of partisan politicians, partisan cable news political pundits and Trump sycophants who are attempting to discredit him by attacking his integrity, only because he isn't advancing Trump's desired narrative, and in their minds, letting Trump take credit for touting a treatment, and thereby take his "victory lap" that his egotistical nature so desperately needs.

It is absurd, but once again, that is the divided country that we are as of right now, and Trump is as responsible for that as anyone. There are two kinds of people in the eyes of Trump and his minions: (1) People who completely agree with Trump 100% of the time, and unconditionally support Trump and defend whatever he says... and (2) people who are liberal Democrats. That is life in Trump's America. Everyone is assigned a political agenda now. Nobody is simply a professional who is performing their job to the best of their ability and serving in the best interest of the general public's health and well-being anymore. Trump is an egocentric political hack and he has projected his own beliefs and value system on to everyone else. It's pathetic.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I don't care about that drug one way or the other. If it is effective, then by all means, use it. However, Dr. Anthony Fauci has consistently said that it is not, and that remains the consensus opinion of epidemiologists and virologists who have gone on record with an opinion, one way or the other. Dr. Anthony Fauci has served as the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984. He is a non-partisan, health care professional, with well-established credentials. Meanwhile, Dr. Fauci's critics are mostly comprised of partisan politicians, partisan cable news political pundits and Trump sycophants who are attempting to discredit him by attacking his integrity, only because he isn't advancing Trump's desired narrative, and in their minds, letting Trump take credit for touting a treatment, and thereby take his "victory lap" that his egotistical nature so desperately needs.

It is absurd, but once again, that is the divided country that we are as of right now, and Trump is as responsible for that as anyone. There are two kinds of people in the eyes of Trump and his minions: (1) People who completely agree with Trump 100% of the time, and unconditionally support Trump and defend whatever he says... and (2) people who are liberal Democrats. That is life in Trump's America. Everyone is assigned a political agenda now. Nobody is simply a professional who is performing their job to the best of their ability and serving in the best interest of the general public's health and well-being anymore. Trump is a political hack and he has projected his own beliefs and value system on to everyone else. It's pathetic.
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So let me get this straight, we should just believe what Fauci says because of his expertise and nothing else? What about the doctors who have said HCQ works? Why is their info somehow invalid? What about people who have used it and said it works? Are they lying because Fauci said it doesn’t work?

People like you and others have bashed physicians that tout the benefits of drugs like HCQ. Why? Because it doesn’t fit your narrative. You along with so many others, including plenty on VN are nothing but hypocritical fear mongers.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
So let me get this straight, we should just believe what Fauci says because of his expertise and nothing else? What about the doctors who have said HCQ works? Why is their info somehow invalid? What about people who have used it and said it works? Are they lying because Fauci said it doesn’t work?

People like you and others have bashed physicians that tout the benefits of drugs like HCQ. Why? Because it doesn’t fit your narrative. You along with so many others, including plenty on VN are nothing but hypocritical fear mongers.
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The consensus opinion among epidemiologists and virologists has been that it doesn't. I haven't bashed any MD's for expressing a professional opinion, or attacked any of them for being politically partisan. Can you say the same about Trump and his White House staff? Not if you are being honest.

Trump, like he does with everything else, has politicized this subject matter. That has everything to do with his ego, and with his need to take a victory lap. It is pathetic.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The consensus opinion among epidemiologists and virologists has been that it doesn't. I haven't bashed any MD's for expressing a professional opinion, or attacked any of them for being politically partisan. Can you say the same about Trump and his White House staff? Not if you are being honest.

Trump, like he does with everything else, has politicized this subject matter. That has everything to do with his ego, and with his need to take a victory lap. It is pathetic.
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Unlike you I don’t include Trump in everything. You seemed obsessed with him. Virtually every post is Trump this and Trump that. That’s what’s pathetic.

Also, not every epidemiologist in the country has been polled and asked about HCQ. Not every infectious disease expert has been asked about it. Not every virologist has been polled. So your consensus statement is a flat out lie. As far as what Trump and his administration does it says, it’s a no win situation. Whatever he says or does will be bashed by those like you. So by all means continue on.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Unlike you I don’t include Trump in everything. You seemed obsessed with him. Virtually every post is Trump this and Trump that. That’s what’s pathetic.

Also, not every epidemiologist in the country has been polled and asked about HCQ. Not every infectious disease expert has been asked about it. Not every virologist has been polled. So your consensus statement is a flat out lie. As far as what Trump and his administration does it says, it’s a no win situation. Whatever he says or does will be bashed by those like you. So by all means continue on.
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I specifically said that among those epidemiologists and virologists who have gone on record and expressed an opinion, one way or the other, on the effectiveness of Hyroxychloroquine as a treatment for the Coronavirus, that the consensus opinion has been that it is not effective.
 
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BeardedVol said:
If your experience with attorneys or the way attorneys speak, involves car salesmen, then that would explain a lot of the content in your posts
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Just to be honest with you .. if the two were drowning , there was only one small float between them , it was only big enough to save one , and someone was forcing me to make a decision between them ... I’d shoot a hole in the float . Which one did you say you were again ?
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I was at Hurricane marina last night on Center Hill and it looked like normal America...... and if anyone is interested .... I learned that late night games of corn hole include a rule that if you get skunked you have to strip and run down the dock and back......
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You just now learned that, hell sometimes I get skunked on purpose.
 
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