lCIA Secret Prison: Polish Leaders Break Silence About Black Site

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#5
dduncan4163 said:
Awww I kid. I'm not trying to offend anyone. I'm Scottish and I love me a good Drunk Scotsman joke.
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Irish and I was busting your chops. Everyone is so pc anymore that my buddy (an admitted pollock) and I cant call each other names in public anymore. Sad day.
 
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#6
Our country has dark stains on its soul.

The apologists will have some reason why this kind of thing is necessary.

I find it interesting that terrorist are so great a threat that we must deal with them in ways we didn't feel necessary to use on Nazis. How terrorists became so much more dangerous than Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan I will never know.
 
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RespectTradition said:
Our country has dark stains on its soul.

The apologists will have some reason why this kind of thing is necessary.

I find it interesting that terrorist are so great a threat that we must deal with them in ways we didn't feel necessary to use on Nazis. How terrorists became so much more dangerous than Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan I will never know.
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I think you will find that people did a lot less talking about what we did. There is too much information "leaked" imo.
 
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RespectTradition said:
Our country has dark stains on its soul.

The apologists will have some reason why this kind of thing is necessary.

I find it interesting that terrorist are so great a threat that we must deal with them in ways we didn't feel necessary to use on Nazis. How terrorists became so much more dangerous than Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan I will never know.
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Not a fair comparison imo.
 
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tim said:
I think you will find that people did a lot less talking about what we did. There is too much information "leaked" imo.
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The only time 'too much' is leaked is when operational intelligence is released at a time when it can cause unnecessary deaths or operations failure.

In a democratic-republic, we elect representatives. These representatives take actions and order other actions to be taken. If we are kept unaware of what money is spent, where it is spent and why it is spent, then can we possibly evaluate our representatives? If we are unaware of actions that are taken, where and why, then can we ever be able to accurately say: my representative/president/whatever did a good job? Ignorance is never a good thing. Without knowledge we cannot make knowledgeable decisions. I don't know about you, but 'trust me' is not something I want to hear from people we have surrendered power to.
 
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RespectTradition said:
The only time 'too much' is leaked is when operational intelligence is released at a time when it can cause unnecessary deaths or operations failure.

In a democratic-republic, we elect representatives. These representatives take actions and order other actions to be taken. If we are kept unaware of what money is spent, where it is spent and why it is spent, then can we possibly evaluate our representatives? If we are unaware of actions that are taken, where and why, then can we ever be able to accurately say: my representative/president/whatever did a good job? Ignorance is never a good thing. Without knowledge we cannot make knowledgeable decisions. I don't know about you, but 'trust me' is not something I want to hear from people we have surrendered power to.
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Well said.
 
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