Let’s watch kirby this time

[Gatoringa]

Georgia player under fire after racist remark during 2023 NFL Draft on livestream

 

[Jax_Vol]

Kirby knows nothing, sees nothing, hears nothing.

 

[WillisWG]

Kirby

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

He might miss the UT-Martin the game. Maybe even Ball State.

 

[StarRaider]

wrong place at the wrong time i tell ya what

 

[lifeisdeep]

He might miss the UT-Martin the game. Maybe even Ball State.

Kirby is going to drop the hammer and make that dude miss the whole first week of summer weightlifting.

 

[indian rick]

Kirby is so mad he will bench Ga. Southern's starting safety 2 games, lol

 

[DawgInterloper]

Georgia player under fire after racist remark during 2023 NFL Draft on livestream

I wouldn't punish him for saying something that wasn't intended as a racist remark. "Ching chong" in that context was his way of saying "hurry up". I realize that any affectation directed toward a culture other than your own (except a sarcastic dumb southern drawl) is now considered offensive, so Kirby should tell him to issue an apology on his instagram account and try to avoid the growing list of proscribed speech.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

I wouldn't punish him for saying something that wasn't intended as a racist remark. "Ching chong" in that context was his way of saying "hurry up". I realize that any affectation directed toward a culture other than your own (except a sarcastic dumb southern drawl) is now considered offensive, so Kirby should tell him to issue an apology on his instagram account and try to avoid the growing list of proscribed speech.

Ching chong - Wikipedia

I guess you also try to find loopholes in using the N word because you heard it in a rap song? Obviously that's tongue and cheek but it's 2023 and you have to be smarter than that, this kid needs to learn a lesson and hopefully he can move on. It's really no different than the Marcus Stokes incident.

 

[VOLfrombama]

I wouldn't punish him for saying something that wasn't intended as a racist remark. "Ching chong" in that context was his way of saying "hurry up". I realize that any affectation directed toward a culture other than your own (except a sarcastic dumb southern drawl) is now considered offensive, so Kirby should tell him to issue an apology on his instagram account and try to avoid the growing list of proscribed speech.

This is such a dumb take. He literally used a racial epithet in order to tell the asian person to hurry up. That in and of itself is racially motivated, aka racism. If you're just being a homer and don't want your player to get punished, then just say so. Downplaying the use of a racially based slur aimed directly at the person of that race is not a good look and is a textbook example of racism. You even give an example that you clearly would be offended by. Geez man. Double standard much?

 

[DawgInterloper]

Ching chong - Wikipedia

I guess you also try to find loopholes in using the N word because you heard it in a rap song? Obviously that's tongue and cheek but it's 2023 and you have to be smarter than that, this kid needs to learn a lesson and hopefully he can move on. It's really no different than the Marcus Stokes incident.

Like I noted in my earlier post, the list of language that is considered offensive is long and growing and there are plenty of adult who don't have exhaustive knowledge of that list. Using those words without intending to cause offense is not equivalent to making a racist remark. The wikipedia article you linked contains several celebrities using the term as a phonetic mimicry of how Chinese language sounds. They apologized and were apparently forgiven without the need for punishment to teach them a lesson.

Rosie O'Donnell did it in 2006 and later said she was unaware that was considered offensive. She apologized and said, "there's a good chance I'll do something like that again, probably in the next week, not on purpose. Only 'cause it's how my brain works". No mention that her status as a co-host of "The View" was impacted via punishment.

Shaq O'Neal did it in 2002 in a statement toward Yao Ming, was criticized and apologized. Yao believed that O'Neal was joking but said a lot of Asians would not see the humor. O'Neal later said it was locker room humor and he meant no offense. As far as I can tell there was no serious consideration that he should be punished by the NBA or the Lakers.

If people like O'Neal and O'Donnell said it without racist intent or knowing it was offensive, then why should Jarrett be held to a different standard at age 18. If it's okay for our adult cultural icons to simply issue an apology, then I think that's a perfectly appropriate lesson for an 18 year old football player too.

 

[VolNExile]

Like I noted in my earlier post, the list of language that is considered offensive is long and growing and there are plenty of adult who don't have exhaustive knowledge of that list. Using those words without intending to cause offense is not equivalent to making a racist remark. The wikipedia article you linked contains several celebrities using the term as a phonetic mimicry of how Chinese language sounds. They apologized and were apparently forgiven without the need for punishment to teach them a lesson.

Rosie O'Donnell did it in 2006 and later said she was unaware that was considered offensive. She apologized and said, "there's a good chance I'll do something like that again, probably in the next week, not on purpose. Only 'cause it's how my brain works". No mention that her status as a co-host of "The View" was impacted via punishment.

Shaq O'Neal did it in 2002 in a statement toward Yao Ming, was criticized and apologized. Yao believed that O'Neal was joking but said a lot of Asians would not see the humor. O'Neal later said it was locker-room humor and he meant no offense. As far as I can tell there was no serious consideration that he should be punished by the NBA or the Lakers.

If people like O'Neal and O'Donnell said it without racist intent or knowing it was offensive, then why should Jarrett be held to a different standard at age 18. If it's okay for our adult cultural icons to simply issue an apology, then I think that's a perfectly appropriate lesson for an 18 year old football player too.

You don’t hear mockery in someone saying “ching chong” to someone who appears to be of Asian descent?

Even if someone isn’t aware of all the baggage behind this, how is it ok to mock total strangers based on their appearance?

 

[DawgInterloper]

You don’t hear mockery in someone saying “ching chong” to someone who appears to be of Asian descent?

Even if someone isn’t aware of all the baggage behind this, how is it ok to mock total strangers based on their appearance?

I think all of that was addressed in my post above. I give him the same benefit of the doubt that the adults I mentioned above were given. I don't think he was trying to be offensive or racist and an apology should suffice.

 

[VOLfrombama]

I think all of that was addressed in my post above. I give him the same benefit of the doubt as the adults I mentioned above were given. I don't think he was trying to be offensive or racist and an apology should suffice.

Ignorance is not an excuse to be racist. Not knowing something is offensive to a specific race is a teachable moment though. I hope Kirby takes this opportunity to address his team about how offensive this type of language is and educate his boys on how to be respectable men.

 

[OrangeVolMan]

I wouldn't punish him for saying something that wasn't intended as a racist remark. "Ching chong" in that context was his way of saying "hurry up". I realize that any affectation directed toward a culture other than your own (except a sarcastic dumb southern drawl) is now considered offensive, so Kirby should tell him to issue an apology on his instagram account and try to avoid the growing list of proscribed speech.

Of course YOU wouldn’t.

 

[DawgInterloper]

Of course YOU wouldn’t.

My status as a Georgia fan has no bearing on my opinion here or in any other case involving athletes' off the field issues.

 

[DawgInterloper]

Ignorance is not an excuse to be racist. Not knowing something is offensive to a specific race is a teachable moment though. I hope Kirby takes this opportunity to address his team about how offensive this type of language is and educate his boys on how to be respectable men.

I hope you're aware that the use of the term "boys" in this context could be considered racist. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it was unintentional and hope you're also working toward becoming a respectable man.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

“I didn’t think it was necessary to suspend the guy,” Saban Kirby told reporters. “If you knew the whole story, maybe you wouldn’t either. But I’m not going to divulge that.”

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Like I noted in my earlier post, the list of language that is considered offensive is long and growing and there are plenty of adult who don't have exhaustive knowledge of that list. Using those words without intending to cause offense is not equivalent to making a racist remark. The wikipedia article you linked contains several celebrities using the term as a phonetic mimicry of how Chinese language sounds. They apologized and were apparently forgiven without the need for punishment to teach them a lesson.

Rosie O'Donnell did it in 2006 and later said she was unaware that was considered offensive. She apologized and said, "there's a good chance I'll do something like that again, probably in the next week, not on purpose. Only 'cause it's how my brain works". No mention that her status as a co-host of "The View" was impacted via punishment.

Shaq O'Neal did it in 2002 in a statement toward Yao Ming, was criticized and apologized. Yao believed that O'Neal was joking but said a lot of Asians would not see the humor. O'Neal later said it was locker room humor and he meant no offense. As far as I can tell there was no serious consideration that he should be punished by the NBA or the Lakers.

If people like O'Neal and O'Donnell said it without racist intent or knowing it was offensive, then why should Jarrett be held to a different standard at age 18. If it's okay for our adult cultural icons to simply issue an apology, then I think that's a perfectly appropriate lesson for an 18 year old football player too.

You're really reaching back almost 30 years to justify your argument? We need to compare apples to apples and this is similar to the Marcus Stokes incident except he was singing a son while the other was clearly making a statement about race. Again in 2023 people have been canceled for less, this is not a nothing to see here. Do I think this young man should lose his scholarship? No, but ignorance doesn't get a free pass.

 

[GroverCleveland]

You don’t hear mockery in someone saying “ching chong” to someone who appears to be of Asian descent?

Even if someone isn’t aware of all the baggage behind this, how is it ok to mock total strangers based on their appearance?

Ugh, it's been done probably since the rise of language among humans. Some have just evolved their sensitivity organ to include it as a trigger. Remains to be seen if it is an evolutionary advantage, but my thoughts are the overly sensitive will eventually be naturally selected out. Darwinism.

 

[DawgInterloper]

I hope you're aware that the use of the term "boys" in this context could be considered racist. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it was unintentional and hope you're also working toward becoming a respectable man.

@VOLfrombama, I apologize for the last sentence in this post. I was trying to point out that this is easily done without involving racist intent, but sarcastically resorting to the same type of insinuations that I'm arguing against doesn't further the debate.

 

[Voldog1998]

Eff Kirby and Georgia!

 

[VOLfrombama]

@VOLfrombama, I apologize for the last sentence in this post. I was trying to point out that this is easily done without involving racist intent, but sarcastically resorting to the same type of insinuations that I'm arguing against doesn't further the debate.

you really need to go back to dawgnation and work on your act. Its sad and disturbing.

 

[Nerwen Aldarion]

It was a racist statement, no ifs ands or butts about it? Do I think he should be tarred and feathered? No, I think there is a tendency in our culture today to overly punish speech, even racist speech.

Kid needs to be required to take a sensitivity course and get run ragged on the field, certainly an apology is warranted but other than that?

He’s a kid, we all make stupid mistakes as kids and he should learn the consequences of being stupid but his life shouldn’t be ruined for it.

 

[VolInNW]

I just find it odd that a uga fan is having to defend this all alone, without the quick and ferocious assistance of the VolDawgs in here. Usually those guys respond quickly to defend uga and remind us great unwashed just how awesome uga is.

In all candor, the young man should issue a well crafted statement apologizing and move on.

If this were a Vol, ESPN would already be asking if Heupel has lost control, and if the 'gimmick' is over. They seem to be hanging that word around Tennessee's neck.