Lets be honest about Ainge

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I know evryone is thinking playing Ainge for next year, but does anyone really think if Ainge cant beat out a weak armed QB like Clausen for the starting job that he has a prayer of beating out the no.2 rated QB in the nation coming out of high school last year?

I just dont see it happening. If Ainge can't beat out Clausen for the starting job now, what chance does he have beating out Crompton? In my mind none, unless Crompton has been way overrated.
 
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Originally posted by oklavol@Oct 9, 2005 2:59 PM
I know evryone is thinking playing Ainge for next year, but does anyone really think if Ainge cant beat out a weak armed QB like Clausen for the starting job that he has a prayer of beating out the no.2 rated QB in the nation coming out of high school last year?

I just dont see it happening.  If Ainge can't beat out Clausen for the starting job now, what chance does he have beating out Crompton?  In my mind none, unless Crompton has been way overrated.
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I don't know if it is that simple. You cannot replace the game experience that Ainge has. Plus, KY, Vandy and a crappy bowl victory might make him look like an all american. I think that he has the arm and the brains, but he is just not working hard. Maybe BS leaving was the worst thing that could have happened to the kid.

I hold RS responsible for his lack of development.
 
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Originally posted by oklavol@Oct 9, 2005 3:59 PM
I know evryone is thinking playing Ainge for next year, but does anyone really think if Ainge cant beat out a weak armed QB like Clausen for the starting job that he has a prayer of beating out the no.2 rated QB in the nation coming out of high school last year?

I just dont see it happening.  If Ainge can't beat out Clausen for the starting job now, what chance does he have beating out Crompton?  In my mind none, unless Crompton has been way overrated.
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i believe in ainge. we saw him last year. he needs a good coach to help him wiht his confidence and his development. i think he will be a good starter and a future nfl draft pick IF (this is a big if) someone can help him with his development and the smarts of being a qb.
 
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Originally posted by tvolsfan@Oct 9, 2005 3:20 PM
i believe in ainge. we saw him last year. he needs a good coach to help him wiht his confidence and his development. i think he will be a good starter and a future nfl draft pick IF (this is a big if) someone can help him with his development and the smarts of being a qb.
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He also has the bloodline. You cannot overlook that.
 
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just get him some coaching. the whole offensive coaching staff should be fired by now. they havent proven anything to me since we had peyton manning.
 
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id like to keep an open mind who will be better after the orange white game going into summer practice
 
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I would like nothing more than for Crompton to come in ready to compete. We also have to remember the type of surgery that he has undergone. It may take a while for him to feel comfortable throwing the ball. At least we have something to look forward to.
 
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What I like best is that he seems to care about the program, and he brought a darn good recruiting class with him, but the only time I've seen him (Army Allstar Game) he did not seem to be as good as advertised. I know those are unfair circumstances, but that is the only thing I have to go on.

All that said, I hope he turns out to be one of the best ever.
 
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Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 9, 2005 4:03 PM
What I like best is that he seems to care about the program, and he brought a darn good recruiting class with him, but the only time I've seen him (Army Allstar Game) he did not seem to be as good as advertised.  I know those are unfair circumstances, but that is the only thing I have to go on. 

All that said, I hope he turns out to be one of the best ever.
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:stop: I saw him play several times in high school. He rolled up some good numbers against very weak teams but looked just a little better than ordinary against the strong teams. In fact he lost the big games. He's NOT as good as advertised. He's gonna need a LOT of good coaching to play in the SEC and from what I gather, he's not gonna get it here. I was surprised UT recruited him at all.

It's time to look for a QB who can run.
 
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This is from rivals.com, the nike training camp. It sounded very favorable about him. If he can throw an "18 yd out on a frozen rope" like they say, he's better then anyone we have now IMO.


Atlanta, GA
May 8, 2004

Atlanta NIKE Training Camp: More than 500 of the best and brightest prospects in the Southeast showed up at the Atlanta NIKE Training Camp held on the campus of Georgia Tech. With the impact recruiting states of Georgia and Florida well represented, more than 250 college coaches were on hand to evaluate the talent that was testing and learning how to improve their game.

Scouting Notes: Crompton showed remarkable poise in the pocket and make great decisions in the one-on-one drills. He was one of the few quarterbacks that were able to drill the 18-yard out on a frozen rope consistently and his footwork was unmatched at the camp.
 
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:banghead: I think Ainge is a fine QB who needs a good QB coach to help him develope. Our QB's have not gotten better under Sanders. People talk about Cutcliff having Shuler,Peyton and Tee. Sanders has had Tee(1yr) Casey,Ainge, Schaffer(1yr) and now Rick. Tee didn't play too well in 99, Casey was a warrior but never really got better as a QB and now we see what is happening to Ainge. Unless we get a new OC and QB coach then we will continue to squander talent. Randy Sanders has never been anywhere other than UT. How in the world was he ever qualified to get the OC job in the first place. Maybe Fulmer is afraid to get someone smarter than himself out of fear of losing his job to him. :question:
 
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Originally posted by swami2302@Oct 9, 2005 5:38 PM
:banghead: I think Ainge is a fine QB who needs a good QB coach to help him develope.  Our QB's have not gotten better under Sanders. People talk about Cutcliff having Shuler,Peyton and Tee. Sanders has had Tee(1yr) Casey,Ainge, Schaffer(1yr) and now Rick.  Tee didn't play too well in 99, Casey was a warrior but never really got better as a QB and now we see what is happening to Ainge. Unless we get a new OC and QB coach then we will continue to squander talent.  Randy Sanders has never been anywhere other than UT.  How in the world was he ever qualified to get the OC job in the first place.  Maybe Fulmer is afraid to get someone smarter than himself out of fear of losing his job to him. :question:
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Is this the pretty girl in the middle flanked by two semi pretty girls theory?
 
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Go back and watch the video of Ainge last year and you will continue to be amazed at the bullets this kid threw. For many reasons he is not the same QB this year as he was last year but I will not give up on him.

I still think he plays on Sundays but he needs a coach and staff that can develop the raw talent that we all saw last year.

I have rarely heard the praise from good announcers that Ainge received last year. Bob Griese probably knows more about playing QB than we do and he said that Ainge could make throws that many NFL QB's could not.

Can anyone honestly tell themselves that Ainge would not be an All-American if he had someone like Cutcliffe, Weis, Tedford, or Chow coaching him?

I hope he gets things straightened out because he was the closest thing to Manning we have seen on campus since 97. The only difference in Ainge this year vs. last year is 6 more months of coaching by Randy Sanders.


 
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Originally posted by volunbeer@Oct 9, 2005 7:14 PM
Go back and watch the video of Ainge last year and you will continue to be amazed at the bullets this kid threw.  For many reasons he is not the same QB this year as he was last year but I will not give up on him. 

I still think he plays on Sundays but he needs a coach and staff that can develop the raw talent that we all saw last year. 

I have rarely heard the praise from good announcers that Ainge received last year.  Bob Griese probably knows more about playing QB than we do and he said that Ainge could make throws that many NFL QB's could not. 

Can anyone honestly tell themselves that Ainge would not be an All-American if he had someone like Cutcliffe, Weis, Tedford, or Chow coaching him?

I hope he gets things straightened out because he was the closest thing to Manning we have seen on campus since 97.  The only difference in Ainge this year vs. last year is 6 more months of coaching by Randy Sanders.
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I dont see how anyone can blame the coaching staff for ainges play this year! I mean he has the same coaching staff that made a freshman last year look like a star on the rise. what about clausen who is coaching him do you think he is not being coached by the same people? i mean the are taking chicken poop and turned it into chicken noodle soup with clausen!! so lets quit saying its the coaches fault! Yes alot of this teams playing abilty does fall on the coaches but ainges playing abilty is not one of them!! By the way crompton does have his sling off so lets pray he gets to throwing soon!
 
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Let's see..... Sanders said they had simplified the playbook for Ainge and Schaeffer last year.

Ainge says after the season that he was pretty much winging it on natural ability last season. Pretty impressive QB rating even counting his bad performance against Auburn.

After spring practice, learning the whole playbook, and a year with Sanders he is a shadow of his former self. I agree to an extent that kids have to develop themselves but we credited Sanders for doing a good job with the QB's last year and we cannot give him credit for a kid being worse a year later?

Clausen is now 5-4 in games he played the majority of snaps in. Rick is a great story and his 2nd half performance against LSU was pure guts but he will not be at UT next year and Ainge will. I suppose we should just throw Ainge away since our staff has decided to go with Clausen who makes fewer mistakes.........

Ainge went out at the end of last season with a QB rating of 135. In limited action his QB rating this season is 77. Ainge had 17 TD's last year vs 8 for Clausen. Even as bad as he has looked this year Ainge still has 2 TD's to Clausen's 3 and both of them have 3 picks each.

For many reasons the offense is sputtering badly this season but I am sure it is all the players faults. A true sophmore like Ainge should coach himself up to be the QB we all thought he could be because we know our sputtering offense is the fault of the players and not the coaches.

:huh:


 
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It's both. The coaches need to help the QB and the QB needs to help himself. Let's get cracking, I think having a good Ainge next year would be great with Crompton to back him up.
 
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i think if crompton is not the man we better recruit a guy who can come in and play right now or we are in for the same lame offense next year.
 
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He should play from here out.

If you are satisfied with RC, remember that we totalled a grand whoopie of ZERO offensive points until junk time in the waining seconds. ZERO.
 
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Come on Doc . . . you're not giving the offense its due for the hard work it put in on that 1 foot QB sneak after the Jonathan Wade INT. :D
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 9, 2005 9:57 PM
Come on Doc . . . you're not giving the offense its due for the hard work it put in on that 1 foot QB sneak after the Jonathan Wade INT.  :D
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:bottom: Shut up.

Wade scored, anyway.
 
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i'll agree with you on that kiddie doc ainge should start the rest of the games this year to see what he has, but in the offseason phil needs to go out and get a top 5 qb or the number one jc qb in the nation and offer him the job.
 
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For the record - I think Crompton is going to be a very good QB if he does not pull an Ainge on us.

We have two top 20 QB's on campus right now..... Ainge and Crompton so there should not be any excuses.

 

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