Let's not flame the players

#52
#52
deaconkane said:
Show me good coaching this game. have not seen it. Bad from cbj all the way yo the players.
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Its been a terrible job by all involved. However, I'm sure most great coaches get it handed to them every once in a while, especially in their first year playing with players they didn't recruit.
 
#53
#53
fade route said:
OP, you're mad because this past week you convinced yourself that UT could and will win. Since that clearly hasn't happened, you find it easier to blame coaches than your own lack of common sense in your expectations.
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Fade this hits the nail on the head. Their is to many on here that just do not have common sense and I will never see things the way they do as I cannot shove my head that far up my a@@ to see it the way they do.
 
#54
#54
QVOL81 said:
Thanks that's what I meant to say
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If you're not trying to blame a first year coaching staff, who are coaching 3 ex-coaches players, who beat a top 15 team for the first time since 2007, then yes, this is what you really meant to say.
 
#55
#55
fade route said:
OP, you're mad because this past week you convinced yourself that UT could and will win. Since that clearly hasn't happened, you find it easier to blame coaches than your own lack of common sense in your expectations.
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Should I just suck up to fade on here too and agree with your post? Next thing I know freak will comment and agree with me and everyone will think I'm a genius
 
#56
#56
7thgroupvolfan said:
If you're not trying to blame a first year coaching staff, who are coaching 3 ex-coaches players, who beat a top 15 team for the first time since 2007, then yes, this is what you really meant to say.
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I didn't blame coaching for our win against a top 15 team?? I give them credit. But this game is highly on them
 
#57
#57
oregonvol said:
This game isn't the result of one bad read. Have you seen it? Blown assignments, missed tackles, dropped balls, stupid penalties, etc., etc. That's not evidence of a well coached team. It's not evidence of a team that is getting better as the season progresses. It is evidence of poor fundamentals and poor discipline. Coaches have to take responsibility for it.

Answer me honestly, Butch-gets-it fanaticism and orange color glasses aside...does it look to you like the coaches are getting the absolute most out of the talent they have?
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Do you honestly think in practice they are working on dropping passes, taking bad angles and jumping off sides? Do you think they are telling Dobbs when you have a wide open receiver in the flat throw the ball down field into double coverage?

I meN come on at some point the players have to perform in the game.
 
#58
#58
volfan411 said:
Do you honestly think in practice they are working on dropping passes, taking bad angles and jumping off sides? Do you think they are telling Dobbs when you have a wide open receiver in the flat throw the ball down field into double coverage?

I meN come on at some point the players have to perform in the game.
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Would it be fair to say they're probably not working enough on it?
 
#59
#59
Our losses have been 59-14, 31-17, 34-31, 45-10, and tonight 31-3. I just want to see us more competative.
 
#60
#60
QVOL81 said:
Send me a link...haven't seen anything except a "play the freshman" threads all year
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http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/207453-butch-jones-too-conservative.html

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/207418-offense.html

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/207488-congrats-they-quit.html

That is just from tonight's game....That's not counting the times it comes up in other threads (see: Official game threads) I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but every week this comes up.
 
#61
#61
SDV said:
So you honestly think Josh Smith is a good receiver?
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Never said he was good or bad. Has he played well this game and a few others? No, but I have seen some talent in him at times to make me believe he will be a productive player for us over his career.

But, that wasnt what my post was about now was it?
 
#62
#62
QVOL81 said:
Would it be fair to say they're probably not working enough on it?
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I do not have the luxury of going to practice but I am sure they are working on fixing the mistakes and maybe they are not spending enough time on it but also keep in mind they are limited on the hours they have with the kids and this week I am sure they spent alot of time working with Dobbs.

These defensive players have took bad angles for 2 seasons now and I do not believe they will ever get it.
 
#63
#63
jp1 said:
Never said he was good or bad. Has he played well this game and a few others? No, but I have seen some talent in him at times to make me believe he will be a productive player for us over his career.

But, that wasnt what my post was about now was it?
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Don't really know what it was about.
 
#64
#64
BennisDrewer said:
http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/207453-butch-jones-too-conservative.html

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/207418-offense.html

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/207488-congrats-they-quit.html

That is just from tonight's game....That's not counting the times it comes up in other threads (see: Official game threads) I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but every week this comes up.
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I said send a link and you sent me ones that are the same thing I made a thread about on the same night. That's not every week. I had read enough threads after reading people saying basically leave tiny in Missouri and our players are from the special Olympics. So I said don't flame the players for this awful coaching
 
#65
#65
SDV said:
Don't really know what it was about.
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You said let's make a list of people who turned their backs on our coaches. I suggested we make a list of people that turned their backs on our players. I wanted to start that list with SDV. Keep up.
 
#66
#66
volfan411 said:
I do not have the luxury of going to practice but I am sure they are working on fixing the mistakes and maybe they are not spending enough time on it but also keep in mind they are limited on the hours they have with the kids and this week I am sure they spent alot of time working with Dobbs.

These defensive players have took bad angles for 2 seasons now and I do not believe they will ever get it.
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I don't either. But defense isn't the only thing I've seen wrong with this game
 
#68
#68
jp1 said:
You said let's make a list of people who turned their backs on our coaches. I suggested we make a list of people that turned their backs on our players. I wanted to start that list with SDV. Keep up.
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Ok put me on top of Josh's list.
 
#69
#69
Coaching....coaching....WTF. Either you play or they kick your aze...you saw what happened. No fight.
 
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