Looks like the Democrats will lose control of the Senate next year.

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gsvol

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Thirty three Senators are up for reelection.

Twenty three of those are Democrats.

Democrats control the senate 53-47.

North Dakota is generally considered a sure pick
up for the Republicans.

At least nine more states are likely to be toss ups
and expect very close races.

Those are in Florida, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri,
Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, Virginia and West Virginia.

Another likely win for Republicans may be in Ohio.

The sitting Democrat, Sherrod Brown has served only
one term and the National Journal has rated him
as the 'most liberal' in the Senate, ahead of even
Socialist (Democrat voting) Bernie Sanders.

Brown's likely opponent is Josh Mandel, a Marine who has
served two tours in Iraq as an intelligence specialist
and has been a city councilman, a member to the Ohio
Legislature, a lawyer and Ohio's state Treasurer.

As a young councilman he helped push trough a property
tax reduction in Lyndhurst, Ohio, the first in history.

He ran and won a seat in the state legislature from a
district that normally votes 2-1 for Democrats.

In the last quarter he rasied $2.3 m in campaign
contributions to Brown's $1.5 m.

Given the general dissatisfaction with Democrats and
the low and declining approval rating of Obama, Mandel's
chances look good.

Not only that, Ohio is traditionally a pivotal state in
presidential elections and it doesn't bode well for Obama
that the Democrats may lose a Democrat Senator from
the state.

So do the math, if Republicans win in North Dakota and
Ohio as expected, they only have to win one of nine
close races to deadlock the Senate and if a Republican
wins the White House (as expected), the VP will cast
any deciding votes.

If Republicans win two of the nine close races then
they will control the Senate.

If the win all nine of the close races then they will
be close to a super majority.

The down side of all this is that twenty one of
the thirty three seats look good for the incumbents.

I'm as much for voting out rinos as I am for voting
out (socialist) Democrats.
 
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Republicans are more than likely regaining the senate
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If they keep the house and win the presidency, no freaking thanks. Need stalemate from somewhere.
 
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GAVol said:
In the long run, you're probably right. But I sure would like a couple of years of free reign to clean things up.
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free reign started the mess. Last thing we need is another politician with a blank check and no offset to stop the payback period. Somebody that's going to legitimately fix the mess is going to get huge pushback from his own party in congress because it might not help them be re-elected.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
free reign started the mess. Last thing we need is another politician with a blank check and no offset to stop the payback period. Somebody that's going to legitimately fix the mess is going to get huge pushback from his own party in congress because it might not help them be re-elected.
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Do you really think though that the big time entitlement reform that we need is ever going to see the light of day in a Democratic Senate?
 
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BigPapaVol said:
If they keep the house and win the presidency, no freaking thanks. Need stalemate from somewhere.
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That's what I've been thinking. The RNC should push for Newt to win the GOP primary. Newt won't win the presidency, but he will embarrass Obama in the debates and significantly weaken his political standing. Meanwhile, the GOP and the Tea Party focus their resources on the Congressional elections and work to regain filibuster proof and (hopefully) veto proof majorities.
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GAVol said:
Do you really think though that the big time entitlement reform that we need is ever going to see the light of day in a Democratic Senate?
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No, but the military scaleback isn't going to happen with Rs running every office either. Throw away the mfing sacred cows and move toward digging out of the hole.
 
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GAVol said:
Do you really think though that the big time entitlement reform that we need is ever going to see the light of day in a Democratic Senate?
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not to be debby downer...but gop wont do it either
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BigPapaVol said:
free reign started the mess. Last thing we need is another politician with a blank check and no offset to stop the payback period. Somebody that's going to legitimately fix the mess is going to get huge pushback from his own party in congress because it might not help them be re-elected.
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truff
 
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GAVol said:
In the long run, you're probably right. But I sure would like a couple of years of free reign to clean things up.
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I agree. I think a few things need to be set straight before moving forward, and it would probably require control of all 3. Hopefully voters will hold them more accountable than before, which is doubtful
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golfballs03 said:
I agree. I think a few things need to be set straight before moving forward, and it would probably require control of all 3. Hopefully voters will hold them more accountable than before, which is doubtful
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there is no way that the R party in full control would even begin to do the right things.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
If they keep the house and win the presidency, no freaking thanks. Need stalemate from somewhere.
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Can't be mad at Voters. The only 1 to blame for this is Obama. His is literally setting the D party back a decade. The economy will start rocking again by 2015, UE will come down to normal levels, and the stock market will start it's next super cycle and blow through Dow 20K. This of course is all my opinion
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I think you really need close to 60 to say you have control of the Senate. I don't see Rs getting enough control to do much damage even with the presidency.
 
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volinbham said:
I think you really need close to 60 to say you have control of the Senate. I don't see Rs getting enough control to do much damage even with the presidency.
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But committee control and quorum is a bunch. Dire consequences cede much power.
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BigPapaVol said:
there is no way that the R party in full control would even begin to do the right things.
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Why do you say that?

What would be the right things to do?





TennTradition said:
truff
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What does 'truff' mean?





dreVol said:
That's what I've been thinking. The RNC should push for Newt to win the GOP primary. Newt won't win the presidency, but he will embarrass Obama in the debates and significantly weaken his political standing. Meanwhile, the GOP and the Tea Party focus their resources on the Congressional elections and work to regain filibuster proof and (hopefully) veto proof majorities.
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Sounds like convoluting thinking at best, what about
executve orders and further inane regulations by
certain administrative agencies?

Furthermore veto proof majorities seem remote at
best.




BigPapaVol said:
free reign started the mess. Last thing we need is another politician with a blank check and no offset to stop the payback period. Somebody that's going to legitimately fix the mess is going to get huge pushback from his own party in congress because it might not help them be re-elected.
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So when did free reign start, with FDR?





GAVol said:
Any chance we can get you to follow gs around and condense walls o' text into 10 words or less?
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So the sound bite should reign supreme?

I think that is what got us to this sorry point.
 
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gsvol said:
Sounds like convoluting thinking at best, what about
executve orders and further inane regulations by
certain administrative agencies?

Furthermore veto proof majorities seem remote at
best.
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Can't a veto proof Congress override executive orders or simply withhold funding for the targets of the orders?
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gsvol said:
Thirty three Senators are up for reelection.

Twenty three of those are Democrats.

Democrats control the senate 53-47.

North Dakota is generally considered a sure pick
up for the Republicans.

At least nine more states are likely to be toss ups
and expect very close races.

Those are in Florida, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri,
Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, Virginia and West Virginia.

Another likely win for Republicans may be in Ohio.

The sitting Democrat, Sherrod Brown has served only
one term and the National Journal has rated him
as the 'most liberal' in the Senate, ahead of even
Socialist (Democrat voting) Bernie Sanders.

Brown's likely opponent is Josh Mandel, a Marine who has
served two tours in Iraq as an intelligence specialist
and has been a city councilman, a member to the Ohio
Legislature, a lawyer and Ohio's state Treasurer.

As a young councilman he helped push trough a property
tax reduction in Lyndhurst, Ohio, the first in history.

He ran and won a seat in the state legislature from a
district that normally votes 2-1 for Democrats.

In the last quarter he rasied $2.3 m in campaign
contributions to Brown's $1.5 m.

Given the general dissatisfaction with Democrats and
the low and declining approval rating of Obama, Mandel's
chances look good.

Not only that, Ohio is traditionally a pivotal state in
presidential elections and it doesn't bode well for Obama
that the Democrats may lose a Democrat Senator from
the state.

So do the math, if Republicans win in North Dakota and
Ohio as expected, they only have to win one of nine
close races to deadlock the Senate and if a Republican
wins the White House (as expected), the VP will cast
any deciding votes.

If Republicans win two of the nine close races then
they will control the Senate.

If the win all nine of the close races then they will
be close to a super majority.

The down side of all this is that twenty one of
the thirty three seats look good for the incumbents.

I'm as much for voting out rinos as I am for voting
out (socialist) Democrats.
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I live in ohio and i'm pretty sure the gov adolf kasich has killed the repubs chance for a victory here. His approval rating is below 30% so brown is probably a shoe in to get voted back in. Untill kasich was elected i would have agreed with you.
 
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