Lowes settles a religious discrimination suit

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VOLatile said:
You gotta be kidding me...
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Agreed. But the ruling IS in agreement with the law as it exists. It says that companies MUST make reasonable accommodations.

This is another example of why I do not believe religion or any other chosen belief/behavior should be protected by civil rights laws. Lowe's should have the RIGHT to schedule people or not schedule people according to its needs and values.

This employee has the right to enter into employment or not... but doing so should NOT... EVER give him/her the power to dictate the terms of employment after the fact.
 
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27 of 28 weeks. Sounds like manger who was being a jerk and trying to prove a point. Should have accommodated the guy or fired him.
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sjt18 said:
Agreed. But the ruling IS in agreement with the law as it exists. It says that companies MUST make reasonable accommodations.

This is another example of why I do not believe religion or any other chosen belief/behavior should be protected by civil rights laws. Lowe's should have the RIGHT to schedule people or not schedule people according to its needs and values.

This employee has the right to enter into employment or not... but doing so should NOT... EVER give him/her the power to dictate the terms of employment after the fact.
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I agree with you - but would only change one thing: the employee should be given the chance to make stipulations before employment and the employer can then decide to hire or not.
 
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VOLatile said:
I agree with you - but would only change one thing: the employee should be given the chance to make stipulations before employment and the employer can then decide to hire or not.
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Agree completely.

In the place of unions, unemployment, insurance mandates, minimum wage, etc... I believe the law should require a written contract for employment that clearly defines the relationship and terms. Once both parties agree... neither has a complaint. They would be very standard however as you mention stipulations and special clauses could be written in when needed.

They should only be for a certain period of time before renewal/renegotiation. Co-workers would have no "favoritism" beef since they agreed to their contract.


IMO, free people should not be the "employees" of others. They should be independent contractors.
 
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Agree with sjt18 here. If the employee doesn't want to work on Sundays, then work somewhere that is closed on Sunday's. Otherwise, deal with it.
 
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rjd970 said:
Agree with sjt18 here. If the employee doesn't want to work on Sundays, then work somewhere that is closed on Sunday's. Otherwise, deal with it.
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I said that while likely being one of the most, if not the most, fundamental, Bible believing Christians here. After a great deal of study and thought, it is my very firm opinion that libertarianism (small "L") is the most consistent political position with the New Testament.

Both teach the sovereignty of man before his creator and that rights are vested in the individual instead of any group. Both teach personal responsibility for self, family, neighbors, and the community. Both hold the right to morally choose as paramount and even sacred.
 
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tri_vol said:
27 of 28 weeks. Sounds like manger who was being a jerk and trying to prove a point. Should have accommodated the guy or fired him.
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Was Jimmie Johnson the plaintiff, he works for Lowes almost every Sunday?
 
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sjt18 said:
Agree completely.

In the place of unions, unemployment, insurance mandates, minimum wage, etc... I believe the law should require a written contract for employment that clearly defines the relationship and terms. Once both parties agree... neither has a complaint. They would be very standard however as you mention stipulations and special clauses could be written in when needed.

They should only be for a certain period of time before renewal/renegotiation. Co-workers would have no "favoritism" beef since they agreed to their contract.


IMO, free people should not be the "employees" of others. They should be independent contractors.
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Yes. Although I support the basic idea behind unions, they are way out of control. Written contracts would be good.


Personal anecdote: I really loved the freedom I had at my last job that not many people have. I got to choose and change my hours with enough notice, take days off (with or without vacation time) with notice, and I could work all of the overtime I wanted. The only mandatory thing was every Saturday unless I requested it off - until I became a manager, then it was every other Saturday. The only thing that sucked about that job (besides the customers) was that I was clearly underpaid for the work I did, and the customers were the ones that brought that up most of the time.
 
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sjt18 said:
I said that while likely being one of the most, if not the most, fundamental, Bible believing Christians here. After a great deal of study and thought, it is my very firm opinion that libertarianism (small "L") is the most consistent political position with the New Testament.

Both teach the sovereignty of man before his creator and that rights are vested in the individual instead of any group. Both teach personal responsibility for self, family, neighbors, and the community. Both hold the right to morally choose as paramount and even sacred.
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I agree. Non-aggression is the most fundamental of all principles that determine how christians are supposed to treat other people. Classical liberalism, normally called libertarianism since the progressives co-opted the word liberal, is the political philosophy that most closely tracks with that principle. That is not the only one either.
 
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