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If you hate Florida (and I am sure most of you do) on top of getting their house in order, it looks like someone appears to be clearing the deck for them in the future.

FSU is a dumpster fire and everything I hear says LSU is in some major, major trouble
 
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Their administration fired him mcelwayne after only 3 years despite winning the East his first 2 years. Because they did that they ultimately got Dan mullen who otherwise would’ve likely ended up at tn. It’s not luck. It’s having competent people running the show there. we have the exact same opportunity right now. It’s obvious over with Pruitt and there’s a proven guy available for the taking.
 
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99gator said:
If you hate Florida (and I am sure most of you do) on top of getting their house in order, it looks like someone appears to be clearing the deck for them in the future.

FSU is a dumpster fire and everything I hear says LSU is in some major, major trouble
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Yeah as amazing as last season was. Everyone knows that was lightning in a bottle. Miles players rose to stradom and the coordinators carried Coach O. He has always rode the NCAA line anyways. And with what they have left with no promise for future and all kinds of violations. If you are going to cut bait then now is the time to do it with the least collateral damage. So yeah I agree with you.
 
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So two of UF’s toughest annual opponents are down, way down, and down for years, not months. This helps Florida in recruiting, especially FSU being in such bad shape, but LSU being down helps UF in recruiting too. The timing couldn’t be better for Mullen. And there’s a solid chance that Kirby at Georgia has sorta missed his window and with another non-championship season or two, Dawg Nation will start turning on him the way they did Mark Richt. Couple all this with the fact that Mullen has proven to be one helluva player developer and Gameday ball coach and Florida is about to go on another run. I know it’s a long shot, but imagine if Florida beats Bama next weekend.
 
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Jaws said:
So two of UF’s toughest annual opponents are down, way down, and down for years, not months. This helps Florida in recruiting, especially FSU being in such bad shape, but LSU being down helps UF in recruiting too. The timing couldn’t be better for Mullen. And there’s a solid chance that Kirby at Georgia has sorta missed his window and with another non-championship season or two, Dawg Nation will start turning on him the way they did Mark Richt. Couple all this with the fact that Mullen has proven to be one helluva player developer and Gameday ball coach and Florida is about to go on another run. I know it’s a long shot, but imagine if Florida beats Bama next weekend.
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Mullen has played Smart 4 times. He’s 0-3 in games where Smart isn’t missing 4 starters on defense and 3 on offense, including having to start a 4th string walk on at QB. UF had a good year, but so far that’s all it’s been. Like OP originally stated, luck helps.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
Mullen has played Smart 4 times. He’s 0-3 in games where Smart isn’t missing 4 starters on defense and 3 on offense, including having to start a 4th string walk on at QB. UF had a good year, but so far that’s all it’s been. Like OP originally stated, luck helps.
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Mullen dominated Kirby in that game, 38 first half points, passing records set, cruise control in second half. Georgia depth and injury problems are Kirby’s responsibility. McElwain kicked Kirby’s ass with Treon Freakin Harris at QB, which is every bit the scrub Georgia’s current QB’s are. And I keep hearing “we had starters out” but I thought Kirby was this recruiting guru, where’s his depth? Oh, and Florida had starters out too, but nobody wants to mention that. Hell, Florida lost Kyle Pitts for 2.5 quarters, lost Stewart Reese, Jeremiah Moon. All starters. Starter Ethan White has been injured most of the season and didn’t play v UGa.

I know getting beat by Florida is tough on Georgia, but their fans really have to do a better job at taking this “L.”
 
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Jaws said:
Mullen dominated Kirby in that game, 38 first half points, passing records set, cruise control in second half. Georgia depth and injury problems are Kirby’s responsibility. McElwain kicked Kirby’s ass with Treon Freakin Harris at QB, which is every bit the scrub Georgia’s current QB’s are. And I keep hearing “we had starters out” but I thought Kirby was this recruiting guru, where’s his depth? Oh, and Florida had starters out too, but nobody wants to mention that. Hell, Florida lost Kyle Pitts for 2.5 quarters, lost Stewart Reese, Jeremiah Moon. All starters. Starter Ethan White has been injured most of the season and didn’t play v UGa.

I know getting beat by Florida is tough on Georgia, but their fans really have to do a better job at taking this “L.”
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lol someone’s upset by facts. First, credit to MuLLLen for winning the game. It’s his job to win and not his job to take it easy on a team that’s decimated by injury. Second, it’s an insane stance that injuries have no impact on the game. I mean, it’s patently false and I’m not sure why you’d try to claim that. Now, let’s look at patterns. MuLLLen is currently 1-3 against Smart. In every game that UGA wasn’t missing nearly half of their starters on defense, he hasn’t been able to score more than 17 points. Most rational ppl are able to see patterns. Did Kentucky go on to dominate UF after getting one win against them? Given your hostility to my post, it’s fairly clear you see the same thing. No rational UGA fan thought Stetson Bennett was taking us anywhere this year. Just like no rational UF fan thinks UGA will have a walk on QB next year and be down 2 starting WR’s, 2 starting DL, and both starting safeties.
 
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Jaws said:
Mullen dominated Kirby in that game, 38 first half points, passing records set, cruise control in second half. Georgia depth and injury problems are Kirby’s responsibility. McElwain kicked Kirby’s ass with Treon Freakin Harris at QB, which is every bit the scrub Georgia’s current QB’s are. And I keep hearing “we had starters out” but I thought Kirby was this recruiting guru, where’s his depth? Oh, and Florida had starters out too, but nobody wants to mention that. Hell, Florida lost Kyle Pitts for 2.5 quarters, lost Stewart Reese, Jeremiah Moon. All starters. Starter Ethan White has been injured most of the season and didn’t play v UGa.

I know getting beat by Florida is tough on Georgia, but their fans really have to do a better job at taking this “L.”
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It’s also funny you bring up shark humper considering he has a better record against Smart than MuLLLen has. In fact, Butch Jones also has a better record against Smart. Also, feel free to compare Treon Harris’ recruiting ranking to SB’s... at this point you’re just grasping at straws lol

Edit. Luke Del Rio was UF’s starting QB in 2016, not Treon Harris. Did you become a UF in 2017 or something?
 
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Atlanta917 said:
lol someone’s upset by facts. First, credit to MuLLLen for winning the game. It’s his job to win and not his job to take it easy on a team that’s decimated by injury. Second, it’s an insane stance that injuries have no impact on the game. I mean, it’s patently false and I’m not sure why you’d try to claim that. Now, let’s look at patterns. MuLLLen is currently 1-3 against Smart. In every game that UGA wasn’t missing nearly half of their starters on defense, he hasn’t been able to score more than 17 points. Most rational ppl are able to see patterns. Did Kentucky go on to dominate UF after getting one win against them? Given your hostility to my post, it’s fairly clear you see the same thing.
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Georgia had injuries, Florida had injuries. I listed several. There were several other injuries for
UF I didn’t list, mostly because my team won and I’m not looking for an excuse.

Before the game this year, UGa fan mantra was “Mullen is 0-3 v Georgia.” Now, undeterred, they dismiss that ass kicking with “Mullen is just 1-3 v Georgia.” I’d imagine that will go on for another season or two until Mullen catches and passes Kirby. Then that mantra will slowly fade away like the “Mullen doesn’t have 5-stars on his team.”

Take this Loss. It was painful, I know, but you gotta man up and take it. Get better next year and hope your coaches can figure out how to stop Emory much better than they did Kyle. Injuries or not, Kyle decimated your defense. Emory will too.

Hope you watch next weekend, we’ll also show Kirby how to beat Bama.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
It’s also funny you bring up shark humper considering he has a better record against Smart than MuLLLen has. In fact, Butch Jones also has a better record against Smart. Also, feel free to compare Treon Harris’ recruiting ranking to SB’s... at this point you’re just grasping at straws lol
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Humper beat Kirby with a midget slot receiver at QB. Mullen is gonna own Kirby for a decade of y’all keep Kirby around that long.

Why isn’t Kirby going to the NFL a possibility? We never hear that like we do Mullen. Why? Because he’s a redneck D-Coordinator who benefitted by UF and UT being down, but never could capitalize and win the whole damn thing. One little ol’ SEC title to show for all that talent. If Mullen stays at UF and Kirby at UGA for ten more years, Mullen will win at least 7 of those.
 
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Jaws said:
Georgia had injuries, Florida had injuries. I listed several. There were several other injuries for
UF I didn’t list, mostly because my team won and I’m not looking for an excuse.

Before the game this year, UGa fan mantra was “Mullen is 0-3 v Georgia.” Now, undeterred, they dismiss that ass kicking with “Mullen is just 1-3 v Georgia.” I’d imagine that will go on for another season or two until Mullen catches and passes Kirby. Then that mantra will slowly fade away like the “Mullen doesn’t have 5-stars on his team.”

Take this Loss. It was painful, I know, but you gotta man up and take it. Get better next year and hope your coaches can figure out how to stop Emory much better than they did Kyle. Injuries or not, Kyle decimated your defense. Emory will too.

Hope you watch next weekend, we’ll also show Kirby how to beat Bama.
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What position is the most important on a football team? QB. UGA was without their first, second, and third string QB. Who is UF’s 4th string QB? Do you honestly think that game plays out the same if UF starts their 4th string QB? As for UGA’s injuries, Jordan Davis and Richard LeCounte have early round draft grades. Who were the players UF was without? What are their draft grades? Again, these a just facts. It’s fairly obvious you’re just spewing nonsense at this point. Stating that injuries don’t impact the game, Treon Harris was a higher rated recruit than walk on SB, and that Treon Harris was even on the 2016 UF team. Not sure why you’re so pee pants about my comment. If you’re going to discuss it with me at least use facts rather than made up points.
 
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Jaws said:
Humper beat Kirby with a midget slot receiver at QB. Mullen is gonna own Kirby for a decade of y’all keep Kirby around that long.

Why isn’t Kirby going to the NFL a possibility? We never hear that like we do Mullen. Why? Because he’s a redneck D-Coordinator who benefitted by UF and UT being down, but never could capitalize and win the whole damn thing. One little ol’ SEC title to show for all that talent. If Mullen stays at UF and Kirby at UGA for ten more years, Mullen will win at least 7 of those.
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Why did Smart accomplish more in 2 years as a HC than Mullen has in his entire career? Let’s not have a pissing match on a UT board. I’m fine with discussing the game or UGA/UF if you stop making up false talking points. In what world is Luke Del Rio a midget slot receiver? It’s odd I know more about UF than you do.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
What position is the most important on a football team? QB. UGA was without their first, second, and third string QB. Who is UF’s 4th string QB? Do you honestly think that game plays out the same if UF starts their 4th string QB? As for UGA’s injuries, Jordan Davis and Richard LeCounte have early round draft grades. Who were the players UF was without? What are their draft grades? Again, these a just facts. It’s fairly obvious you’re just spewing nonsense at this point. Stating that injuries don’t impact the game, Treon Harris was a higher rated recruit than walk on SB, and that Treon Harris was even on the 2016 UF team. Not sure why you’re so pee pants about my comment. If you’re going to discuss it with me at least use facts rather than made up points.
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😂 Are y’all gonna whine like this all offseason? Maybe all your QB’s suck because your coaching sucks? And yes, Mullen would have won that game with Emory playing QB, Anthony Richardson playing QB or anyone else on the roster.

Can I play this “we lost because we had injuries” game in retrospect? You Georgia fans didn’t seem to mind when Florida had Kedarius Toney and Malik Davis and Jeremiah Moon out last year, or Felipe Franks out last year, or CJ Henderson and Marco Wilson out. Y’all took those wins in stride and never looked back. They are/were UF starters. Can we not count our aTm loss this year, or at least whine incessantly about it? We had three or four starters out that game.

This is not a good look. Congrats and “see ya next year” would be the right approach.
 
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Jaws said:
😂 Are y’all gonna whine like this all offseason? Maybe all your QB’s suck because your coaching sucks? And yes, Mullen would have won that game with Emory playing QB, Anthony Richardson playing QB or anyone else on the roster.

Can I play this “we lost because we had injuries” game in retrospect? You Georgia fans didn’t seem to mind when Florida had Kedarius Toney and Malik Davis and Jeremiah Moon out last year, or Felipe Franks out last year, or CJ Henderson and Marco Wilson out. Y’all took those wins in stride and never looked back. They are/were UF starters. Can we not count our aTm loss this year, or at least whine incessantly about it? We had three or four starters out that game.

This is not a good look. Congrats and “see ya next year” would be the right approach.
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All you’re doing is proving my points. First, Emory is the second string QB, and apparently Richardson is third string. UGA was on their fourth string QB. You, like most fans, don’t even know who your 4th string QB is. I also highly doubt you want to try and claim your 4th string QB has the same amount of talent as Trask.
Next, unlike you I acknowledge the fact injuries impact the game. It’s entirely possible those injuries could’ve changed the game in UF’s favor last year, just like this year’s game could’ve been changed with healthy players for UGA. To what extent, will never know, but we can say for sure the game would be different.
What’s not a good look is making up false talking points then ignoring them when you get called out on them. If you’re unable to defend a point without making things up, that should tell you all you need to know about your position. I’m usually able to have civil conversations with you. Not sure why you’re so upset this morning.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
Why did Smart accomplish more in 2 years as a HC than Mullen has in his entire career?
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You’re smart enough to figure out the answer to this, but since you’re not being honest, I’ll explain; Because Mullen was at Mississippi State during the Saban/Bama reign of terror! This is a really bad argument for you on behalf of Kirby seeing that he gets his ass tore up by Bama and LSU every time he sees them on the field. He’s 0-6 versus LSU and Bama and you’re here asking me why Mullen didn’t win the SECw with a Mississippi State roster? Silly.

And you’re right, I had forgotten it was Del Rio who beat Georgia with Mac as coach, Treon actually beat UGa with Muschamp as his coach. 😂

Mullen is going to dominate this series going forward. Kirby blew it.
 
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chattavol420 said:
Their administration fired him mcelwayne after only 3 years despite winning the East his first 2 years. Because they did that they ultimately got Dan mullen who otherwise would’ve likely ended up at tn. It’s not luck. It’s having competent people running the show there. we have the exact same opportunity right now. It’s obvious over with Pruitt and there’s a proven guy available for the taking.
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They knew shark humper had hit his ceiling and they cut bait fast.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
I’m usually able to have civil conversations with you. Not sure why you’re so upset this morning.
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Not upset at all, I’m just noticing a trend on Twitter and elsewhere amongst Georgia fans who want to excuse-away that thorough ass stomping they got from Mullen. I’m not having it. Injuries are part of the game, Florida gets no sympathy from UGA fans when we have injuries, you’ll get no sympathy from me in return.

About to be driving to Gainesville so we can continue this later. Take care.
 
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Jaws said:
You’re smart enough to figure out the answer to this, but since you’re not being honest, I’ll explain; Because Mullen was at Mississippi State during the Saban/Bama reign of terror! This is a really bad argument for you on behalf of Kirby seeing that he gets his ass tore up by Bama and LSU every time he sees them on the field. He’s 0-6 versus LSU and Bama and you’re here asking me why Mullen didn’t win the SECw with a Mississippi State roster? Silly.

And you’re right, I had forgotten it was Del Rio who beat Georgia with Mac as coach, Treon actually beat UGa with Muschamp as his coach. 😂

Mullen is going to dominate this series going forward. Kirby blew it.
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You said excuses don’t matter. Seems like you’re giving excuses for Mullen now. At least try to be consistent. Either nuance matters, or it doesn’t. You can’t look at the big picture for one coach and not for another.
Bama tears up UGA? The point differential between Smart and Mullen has been greater than the point differential between Saban and Smart.
Maybe MuLLLen does turn the series around, but he’s currently 1-3 against Smart with only win coming against a 4th string walk on QB and a defense missing nearly half its starters. If you’re being honest then you should know MuLLLen likely doesn’t have those advantages again.
 
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Jaws said:
Not upset at all, I’m just noticing a trend on Twitter and elsewhere amongst Georgia fans who want to excuse-away that thorough ass stomping they got from Mullen. I’m not having it. Injuries are part of the game, Florida gets no sympathy from UGA fans when we have injuries, you’ll get no sympathy from me in return.

About to be driving to Gainesville so we can continue this later. Take care.
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If you’ve read any of my posts I’ve already said injuries are part of the game. The issue is your claim they don’t impact the game. It’s also odd you’re fine with Mullen’s “excuses”, but then call out injuries as an excuse. I already said credit goes to Mullen for winning the game. I wouldn’t want Smart to take it easy on a depleted UF team, so UF fans wouldn’t want Mullen to for UGA. My point is, and has been, Mullen wont have the same advantages next year. Either way, have a good one. lol glad the conversation turned less hostile towards the end.
 
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@Atlanta917
How were you down to your 4th string qb? Didn't Stetson start the year? Wasn't he already on the roster prior to Newman? Are you counting Newman #1 and Daniels #2? Neither player had ever taken a snap in a game for UGA yet they were #1 and #2? So Kirby the recruiting guru was depending on transfers for the most important position as you called it? Aren't yall loaded with 5 stars at every position? Even your backups are 4 and 5 star which is higher than most other teams not named Bama. So the "talent" is there but the production didn't match the "talent". What would you call that? Inexperience?
 
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saltfanclub said:
@Atlanta917
How were you down to your 4th string qb? Didn't Stetson start the year? Wasn't he already on the roster prior to Newman? Are you counting Newman #1 and Daniels #2? Neither player had ever taken a snap in a game for UGA yet they were #1 and #2? So Kirby the recruiting guru was depending on transfers for the most important position as you called it? Aren't yall loaded with 5 stars at every position? Even your backups are 4 and 5 star which is higher than most other teams not named Bama. So the "talent" is there but the production didn't match the "talent". What would you call that? Inexperience?
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At the beginning of the year Newman was first string, JTD was second string, and Dwan Mathis was third string. SB wasn’t getting any reps in an already shortened spring. It’s a bit dishonest saying neither had any snaps when Newman and JTD both had at least 1 season or more starting at their respective schools playing against quality opponents.

As for the backups, are you implying experience and development don’t matter? LeCounte was a 4 year starter and Davis was a 3 year starter. LeCounte’s backup was a 3* with zero starts. While Davis’ backup was a 5* with zero starts, Davis was a 3* that was developed into a player that’s mocked to go in the second round of the draft. Trask was a 3*, do you think UF would suddenly get better if he went down and 4* Emory Jones took over against bama?

At least attempt to have an honest conversation. I haven’t been trolling or making wild claims, so it would be nice to get the same in return. It would be outrageous to claim experience and development don’t matter in a normal year, let alone a covid year in which teams didn’t get a full off season. I guess your argument could be true if players never developed, grew, or got experienced once they got to campus. You’re also assuming recruiting rankings are an exact science and never wrong.
 
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Couldn't care less. Florida could surpass what Alabama has done in football and I'd still pity their fans for having to pretend to like Gainesville, and be associated with the non-alumni sect of their fanbase which in my experience, is only rivaled by West Virginia on the white trash spectrum (i.e., The Standardized Mullet Index).
 
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