Mack Brown and Texas About to Get Screwed

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DOCTORLOOMIS

DOCTORLOOMIS

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Texas...going into this weekend was ranked #2 in the BCS. Oklahoma #3. Texas beats their opponent by 40 and gives up less than 10 points. OU beats their opponent and gives up 41 points doing it. If not for some extremely fortunate breaks, OSU may have won the game outright. Finally...and MOST importantly, Texas beat OU heads up this year. After all this evidence, the pollsters and BCS idiots appear to be putting Oklahoma #2 in the BCS standings. If I were Mack Brown and got screwed like that I would be major pissed. Thats just sorry.
 
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But it sure looks that way. I'm sick of the mythical National Popularity Contest......bring on a playoff...

Can you imagine some of the great games we'd have this year in a playoff system!
 
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Brown would have a good argument if he hadn't lost to a fraud of a TTU team.
 
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Right now on Yahoo sports the headline is "Sam Bradford and Oklahoma are deserving". What a joke. How are they deserving? They got beat by the team in front of them. They (Texas and OU) both won this week...and Texas blows out their opponent by 40 and hardly gives up a point. How is OU deserving?
 
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DOCTORLOOMIS said:
Right now on Yahoo sports the headline is "Sam Bradford and Oklahoma are deserving". What a joke. How are they deserving? They got beat by the team in front of them. They (Texas and OU) both won this week...and Texas blows out their opponent by 40 and hardly gives up a point. How is OU deserving?
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whoo hoo, texas blew out aTm. Hardly breaking news. OU beat aTm 66-28. Like BPV said, don't lose to TTU and you don't have to worry about this issue. Texas only beat OSU by 4. OU beat OSU by 20.
 
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DOCTORLOOMIS said:
Right now on Yahoo sports the headline is "Sam Bradford and Oklahoma are deserving". What a joke. How are they deserving? They got beat by the team in front of them. They (Texas and OU) both won this week...and Texas blows out their opponent by 40 and hardly gives up a point. How is OU deserving?
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Tx lost more recently to a common opponent that OU killed. OU also just went to Stillwater and beat a team that TX struggled with in Austin. TX also beat an epically bad A&M teamby less than OU beat the guys that beat TX just last week.
 
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I wonder if the team left out (OU or Texas) can play in the Sugar versus Alabama or Florida... Any combination of those would be great. Anyone know?
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Its so hypocritical to talk about the stupid head to head game that Texas won over Oklahoma if you're just going to try to pretend Texas didn't lose to Texas Tech who gets blown out by Oklahoma.

Just because T. Tech got blown out doesn't make the 3 way tie irrelevant and make it a 2 team race... or just because Tech is further behind in the BCS... the BCS is just used as the tie breaker - it doesn't mean that since Tech is so far behind the other two that you should just forget about Tech and consider the top two which Texas holds the head to head. That's a crazy argument imo. Oklahoma is deserving based on the fact they're the second hottest team in the nation behind Florida. What else can you base it on? That's the only thing you can since its a 3-way tie.

I find it disgusting that people are trying to penalize Oklahoma just because they beat Texas Tech so badly. If the game was close - then everyone wouldn't use the stupid head to head argument in the three way tie. If anything - beating the team so badly that gave Texas their only loss should help them since it shows that Oklahoma has improved since they lost to the Longhorns.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I wonder if the team left out (OU or Texas) can play in the Sugar versus Alabama or Florida... Any combination of those would be great. Anyone know?
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The B12 runner up goes to the Fiesta bowl, I believe. The "at large" team always plays in the Sugar when the Sugar isn't the title game. So Alabama/Florida would likely play Utah.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Its so hypocritical to talk about the stupid head to head game that Texas won over Oklahoma if you're just going to try to pretend Texas didn't lose to Texas Tech who gets blown out by Oklahoma.

Just because T. Tech got blown out doesn't make the 3 way tie irrelevant and make it a 2 team race... or just because Tech is further behind in the BCS... the BCS is just used as the tie breaker - it doesn't mean that since Tech is so far behind the other two that you should just forget about Tech and consider the top two which Texas holds the head to head. That's a stupid argument. Oklahoma is deserving based on the fact they're the second hottest team in the nation behind Florida. What else can you base it on? That's the only thing you can since its a 3-way tie.

I find it disgusting that people are trying to penalize Oklahoma just because they beat Texas Tech so badly. If the game was close - then everyone wouldn't use the stupid head to head argument in the three way tie.
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I hadn't thought about it that way, but you are right. It is punishing Oklahoma to disregard Texas Tech due to OU's margin of victory, just look at head to head.
 
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And the pollsters better get it right if the Big 12 south champ loses the the Big 12 north champ (not likely but you never know).

USC should play the SEC champion in the title game if there is an upset in the Big 12 title game - not the Big 12 south team that got screwed and left out of the conference championship game. It may be unfair since the team left out may have been better - but they didn't win their conference so..
 
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I'm not penalizing OU because they killed TTU. I'm penalizing them because they lost to Texas.

If it was all about who is playing the best at the moment, why didn't we just have Georgia and USC play for the national championship last year?

OU may in fact be playing the best right now, and would probably beat Texas if they played today... but they don't.
 
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I'm not penalizing OU because they killed TTU. I'm penalizing them because they lost to Texas.

If it was all about who is playing the best at the moment, why didn't we just have Georgia and USC play for the national championship last year?

OU may in fact be playing the best right now, and would probably beat Texas if they played today... but they don't.
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Ok - so why not put Texas Tech in the Big 12 title game? Why aren't you penalizing Texas for losing to Tech? See - you're trying to make Tech irrelevant in the argument because they're so far behind in the BCS. If no one had any clue what the BCS standings were and how much each team was behind the next then you'd look at it a totally different way.

And Georgia was different. They weren't in a 3 way tie. They didn't win their conference. Each of the 3 Big 12 south teams are equal in wins. They have a better argument. Georgia didn't even win their division. The only reason I brought up the 'who is playing better' argument is because we're in the 3 way tie. There's no way around it - no secret formula. Texas > Oklahoma > Texas Tech > Texas. No way in solving that... so its up to the pollsters to pick which team is the hottest and which teams loss was the earliest in the season (that part isn't fair to Tech since you get penalized so much for losing late by the BCS).
 
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I was just referring to the fact that Georgia was one of the hottest teams in the country at the end of the season and were actually ahead of LSU in the BCS before the SEC title game. I agree that if you don't win the conference that you shouldn't be able to play for the national championship.

Unfortunately, the BCS standings are the tie-breaker at this point, and since TTU is lower than Texas and OU, that's why it's between those two, and Texas won between them.
 
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Disregard the BCS standings when you look at it. Say you didn't know how Oklahoma, Texas Tech, and Texas were ranked in the BCS and how close they were... why are you trying to make it head to head? Its a three team race whether or not Texas Tech is #3 or #52 in the BCS.

Yes - the BCS is used as a tie breaker - which is crappy. But it should not be used to influence the rankings in the polls or how you look at each team - the BCS jacked. Just because Tech is so far behind the other two shouldn't mean you look at only the head to head of the top two. I don't understand that logic at all... Yes, there is no way Tech can get into the championship game - but don't disregard the fact its still a three way tie.... you don't eliminate one team at a time and then forget the 3rd teams accomplishments and what they did to the other teams when weighing the teams just because they don't have a shot based on a stupid way to have a tie breaker.

And I realize what you were referencing with Georgia last year - still - a totally different situation. They weren't in a three way tie. They were in a two way tie in which they lost head to head to us.
 
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Tid I never agree with bruno but he is right here. TTU is so low because OU annihilated them. How can you punish OU for that?
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...and OU is in their situation right now because they lost by double digits to Texas on a neutral field. I guess I'm more impressed with Texas defeating OU at the neutral site than I am with OU killing TTU at home, even with Texas losing on a last second play to TTU on the road.

Since they all beat each other there are a few ways to look at it, and I'm looking at the part where Texas beat OU. That's all.
 
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I'm not supporting Tech, but if you let Texas in, Tech would be able to use the same argument that Texas will use if OU jumps them. You cant use head to head when three teams all went 1-1 agaisnt each other.
 
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I realize that, but TTU kind of knocked themselves out of contention by not showing up against OU, but like we've said, credit to OU for doing that. The other games in question were at least competitive. What would we be saying if TTU had only lost by 10 points to OU?

What in the hell was the tiebreaker between three teams before they started using BCS rankings? :wacko:
 
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If it was anything like the Big 10 was (and I think still is), they give it to the team who hasn't been there in the longest.
 
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I think they used highest ranking in the AP poll, but don't hold me to that. I'm not sure there is a good way to decide the issue, I just agree with those that say you can't use head to head because then you just go in circles.
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