Maddux to retire with 355 wins

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Aren't Glavine and Smoltz both pretty much done too after this year?

Kinda funny they'd all be retiring/leaving at the same time
 
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Mad Dog was a true pitcher. Might not overpower you but he could paint the corners like Picasso.
 
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he could not only paint the corner, he could paint outside of it and not only fool umpires, but hitters as well.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Aren't Glavine and Smoltz both pretty much done too after this year?

Kinda funny they'd all be retiring/leaving at the same time
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I never liked the Braves, but it would be pretty cool to see all three of those guys go into the Hall at the same time.
 
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tidwell said:
I never liked the Braves, but it would be pretty cool to see all three of those guys go into the Hall at the same time.
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Tough call for me, but I think I hate the Braves more than the Cubs, so I'd love to see Maddux and MLB screw the Braves and have Mad Dog enter as a Cubbie.
 
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volfanbill said:
Tough call for me, but I think I hate the Braves more than the Cubs, so I'd love to see Maddux and MLB screw the Braves and have Mad Dog enter as a Cubbie.
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FUITA, YFAH.

Dwight Gooden in 1985 was the best pitcher I've ever seen. A close second was Greg Maddux circa 1994, but Maddux maintained close to that level for an amazing four or five years in a row. Watching him pitch every five days was the best thing about being a Braves fan for awhile. The best part of his career was as a Brave; he won a championship here. No chance he goes in as a Loser.
 
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Where to start on Maddux.

Maddux, as everyone said could paint corners, but the thing about him was setting hitters up. He changed speeds and got in the hitters head so much that he was about the only guy that could bust a power hitter inside with a 87-90 mph fast ball and the hitter just craps his pants.

Him and Glavine made a fine art of not giving into the strike zone. They would have an umpire calling strikes well outside the strike zone because they were just so pin-point. When he was on, no one in my lifetime was better at being an economic pitcher. Sure you have Randy Johnson blowing people away and ringing up K's, but hitters with Maddux would just have to get on the first pitch they could and usually ended up rolling over it or sending it skyward.

You got kids out there just pitching their ass off trying to get outs. Maddux if for some reason had someone on first he would change his approach to make sure he got the ground ball. Sure, many pitchers do that but not as effectively as Maddux did. Maddux made it a point, other pitchers attempted to make it a point.

Greg Maddux made pitching an art and not a brute force profession. Taught me so much, I honestly think having him pitch for the Braves and on TBS 70 plus games a year in the 90's made me have a better approach when I played.

Speaking of Glavine and Smoltz, I hope they all hang it up and they all should be first ballot HOF'ers.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
FUITA, YFAH.

Dwight Gooden in 1985 was the best pitcher I've ever seen. A close second was Greg Maddux circa 1994, but Maddux maintained close to that level for an amazing four or five years in a row. Watching him pitch every five days was the best thing about being a Braves fan for awhile. The best part of his career was as a Brave; he won a championship here. No chance he goes in as a Loser.
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i see what you did there. ouch.

the thing that kills me the most is it's not like he was beating down the door to get out of Chicago. the Cubs could have kept him.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
FUITA, YFAH.

Dwight Gooden in 1985 was the best pitcher I've ever seen. A close second was Greg Maddux circa 1994, but Maddux maintained close to that level for an amazing four or five years in a row. Watching him pitch every five days was the best thing about being a Braves fan for awhile. The best part of his career was as a Brave; he won a championship here. No chance he goes in as a Loser.
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i can't imagine it either, but I knew it would get you riled up.:)
 
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I enjoyed watching him pitch but will never forget the day he arrived at the Braves clubhouse 2 hours early (earlier than any other player) the day after getting shelled by another team and he would not sign a ball for my 8 year old son. The kids were calling his name (only about 6 or 7 kids) and he didn't smile and wave or recognize them at all. I will always remember him as a jerk. The more people I have told this story the more other people have said they had the same experience. :(
 
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Inside cut fastball prettiest pitch I ever saw....I'd just shake my head goin back to the dugout. Was basically a horizontal curveball.
 
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Business said:
Where to start on Maddux.

Maddux, as everyone said could paint corners, but the thing about him was setting hitters up. He changed speeds and got in the hitters head so much that he was about the only guy that could bust a power hitter inside with a 87-90 mph fast ball and the hitter just craps his pants.

Him and Glavine made a fine art of not giving into the strike zone. They would have an umpire calling strikes well outside the strike zone because they were just so pin-point. When he was on, no one in my lifetime was better at being an economic pitcher. Sure you have Randy Johnson blowing people away and ringing up K's, but hitters with Maddux would just have to get on the first pitch they could and usually ended up rolling over it or sending it skyward.

You got kids out there just pitching their ass off trying to get outs. Maddux if for some reason had someone on first he would change his approach to make sure he got the ground ball. Sure, many pitchers do that but not as effectively as Maddux did. Maddux made it a point, other pitchers attempted to make it a point.

Greg Maddux made pitching an art and not a brute force profession. Taught me so much, I honestly think having him pitch for the Braves and on TBS 70 plus games a year in the 90's made me have a better approach when I played.

Speaking of Glavine and Smoltz, I hope they all hang it up and they all should be first ballot HOF'ers.
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Those 3 pitchers if not the best top 3 in a rotation on any team ever, I'd like to see a better top 3...would make a nice debate. No power, very little, all spot finessee hurlers.
 
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corona1898 said:
I enjoyed watching him pitch but will never forget the day he arrived at the Braves clubhouse 2 hours early (earlier than any other player) the day after getting shelled by another team and he would not sign a ball for my 8 year old son. The kids were calling his name (only about 6 or 7 kids) and he didn't smile and wave or recognize them at all. I will always remember him as a jerk. The more people I have told this story the more other people have said they had the same experience. :(
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He got paid to be an excellent pitcher, not to be a charismatic person.
 
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corona1898 said:
Are you saying you played against him?
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Of course:p...how else could someone have this opinion, watching a television as you follow a team for years watching this pitching staff paint the strike zone? The camera angle behind the pitcher viewing the catcher gives an excellent view of a cut fastball coming back across the plate.
 
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dan4vols said:
Inside cut fastball prettiest pitch I ever saw....I'd just shake my head goin back to the dugout. Was basically a horizontal curveball.
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. . . and the thing was, he rarely wasted pitches once he got 2 strike counts. Every lefthanded hitter knew the 2 seamer was coming and it still froze them. Maddux got more called 3rd strikes than any pitcher I've ever seen.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
FUITA, YFAH.

Dwight Gooden in 1985 was the best pitcher I've ever seen. A close second was Greg Maddux circa 1994, but Maddux maintained close to that level for an amazing four or five years in a row. Watching him pitch every five days was the best thing about being a Braves fan for awhile. The best part of his career was as a Brave; he won a championship here. No chance he goes in as a Loser.
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hahaha! I had to look all that up. I agree completely!!
 
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