Male vs Female head coaches in softball

[2Alum4EverVol]

If one looks at the last 10 years alone, a total of 6 WCWS titles have been won by male coaches (2006 & 2007 AZ Mike Candrea; 2008 & 2011 ASU Clint Myers; 2012 AL Patrick Murhphy; 2014 FL Tim Walton) VS. 4 by female coaches (2005 MI Carol Hutchins; 2009 WA Heather Tarr; 2010 UCLA Kelly Inouye-Perez; 2012 OK Pat Gasso). There are numerous male coaches at the helm of D1 Softball programs VS. Zero female head coaches in men's baseball programs. On the contrary, SEC for example which is widely considered to be the best softball conference in the nation, 6 SEC schools have male head coaches & 6 have female head coaches. TN is the only school which has a husband/wife tandem as co-head coaches.

We'd wondered if Pat Summit could coach our beleaguered men's team from time to time in the past. We ardently listen to our moms, and love and respect them, so why can't the young boys follow a successful female coach's lead to victories, the reasoning went so on. 'Tho never offered the job officially, Pat Summit wisely chose not to sticking to girls hoops, and didn't elaborate publicly on the reasons..

Just last year, Geno Auriemma won his 9th NC's for UConn surpassing Coach Summit on the all-time list. Are the male coaches ultimately cut out to be better leaders and thereby better head coaches vs. females for the reasons unspecified? A female coach on the average, however, seems to connect better emotionally with (female) players, and may be able to push the right buttons in stressful situations. But, a male coach can show more "tough love" as a father would to his daughter, and that might be exactly one missing ingredient needed in getting our Lady Vols' over the hump in their pursuit of elusive national championship. More Ralph and less Karen, please for next year! Ralph needs to call all the pitches plus the base running, squeeze/bunting and so on...

 

[AllforTenn]

If one looks at the last 10 years alone, a total of 6 WCWS titles have been won by male coaches (2006 & 2007 AZ Mike Candrea; 2008 & 2011 ASU Clint Myers; 2012 AL Patrick Murhphy; 2014 FL Tim Walton) VS. 4 by female coaches (2005 MI Carol Hutchins; 2009 WA Heather Tarr; 2010 UCLA Kelly Inouye-Perez; 2012 OK Pat Gasso). There are numerous male coaches at the helm of D1 Softball programs VS. Zero female head coaches in men's baseball programs. On the contrary, SEC for example which is widely considered to be the best softball conference in the nation, 6 SEC schools have male head coaches & 6 have female head coaches. TN is the only school which has a husband/wife tandem as co-head coaches.

We'd wondered if Pat Summit could coach our beleaguered men's team from time to time in the past. We ardently listen to our moms, and love and respect them, so why can't the young boys follow a successful female coach's lead to victories, the reasoning went so on. 'Tho never offered the job officially, Pat Summit wisely chose not to sticking to girls hoops, and didn't elaborate publicly on the reasons..

Just last year, Geno Auriemma won his 9th NC's for UConn surpassing Coach Summit on the all-time list. Are the male coaches ultimately cut out to be better leaders and thereby better head coaches vs. females for the reasons unspecified? A female coach on the average, however, seems to connect better emotionally with (female) players, and may be able to push the right buttons in stressful situations. But, a male coach can show more "tough love" as a father would to his daughter, and that might be exactly one missing ingredient needed in getting our Lady Vols' over the hump in their pursuit of elusive national championship. More Ralph and less Karen, please for next year! Ralph needs to call all the pitches plus the base running, squeeze/bunting and so on...

Those figures mean nothing. Why start such a thread?

 

[OrangeDog]

Those figures mean nothing. Why start such a thread?

???? I thought you had to have more posts than that to start a thread.
I see now that it would be a good rule.

 

[volroadwarrior]

If one looks at the last 10 years alone, a total of 6 WCWS titles have been won by male coaches (2006 & 2007 AZ Mike Candrea; 2008 & 2011 ASU Clint Myers; 2012 AL Patrick Murhphy; 2014 FL Tim Walton) VS. 4 by female coaches (2005 MI Carol Hutchins; 2009 WA Heather Tarr; 2010 UCLA Kelly Inouye-Perez; 2012 OK Pat Gasso). There are numerous male coaches at the helm of D1 Softball programs VS. Zero female head coaches in men's baseball programs. On the contrary, SEC for example which is widely considered to be the best softball conference in the nation, 6 SEC schools have male head coaches & 6 have female head coaches. TN is the only school which has a husband/wife tandem as co-head coaches.

We'd wondered if Pat Summit could coach our beleaguered men's team from time to time in the past. We ardently listen to our moms, and love and respect them, so why can't the young boys follow a successful female coach's lead to victories, the reasoning went so on. 'Tho never offered the job officially, Pat Summit wisely chose not to sticking to girls hoops, and didn't elaborate publicly on the reasons..

Just last year, Geno Auriemma won his 9th NC's for UConn surpassing Coach Summit on the all-time list. Are the male coaches ultimately cut out to be better leaders and thereby better head coaches vs. females for the reasons unspecified? A female coach on the average, however, seems to connect better emotionally with (female) players, and may be able to push the right buttons in stressful situations. But, a male coach can show more "tough love" as a father would to his daughter, and that might be exactly one missing ingredient needed in getting our Lady Vols' over the hump in their pursuit of elusive national championship. More Ralph and less Karen, please for next year! Ralph needs to call all the pitches plus the base running, squeeze/bunting and so on...

You just stirred up a hornet's nest. lol:

 

[JoseDaMofo]

???? I thought you had to have more posts than that to start a thread.
I see now that it would be a good rule.

Heaven forbid somebody wish to discuss something on a discussion board that you don't care to talk about.

Oh, the horror.

 

[Sandvol]

Women don't have as big ego's as men. Doubt this thread gets much response.

 

[Burger]

I actually read in my management book that women were better leaders. Then I thought about general motors and laughed.

 

[governmentmule]

eeeh just another Geno fan

 

[gule]

next thing you'll be declaring is that black coaches can't coach softball.....

 

[G8R8U2]

Actually, the SEC has NEVER been considered the top softball conference, not widely, not at all... it's always been a Pac-12 stronghold.

The Pac-12 won 24 of the first 33 WCWS, with TAMU (Big-12), Oklahoma (Big-12), and Cal-State-Fullerton winning the others until 2012.

Bama's 2012 title and UF's 2014 title were the first and only softball NC's the SEC has ever won.

Now, there's an argument that can be made that the SEC has finally caught up to the Pac-12; and that we're finally keeping a lot of our talent at home, while also getting some of the other talent around the country... which never really happened before.

And it's fair to say the SEC was the top conference this year, as evidenced by UF and Bama knocking off so many of them right up to the finals; but we still need to collect a few more of these

before the SEC is widely considered the best softball conference.

 

[Terra]

Correct...you also have to remember softball was only started in the SEC in I think 1996. PAC12 had a stronghold on WCWS alot because they were basically the only ones playing it. IMO the SEC will be even more competitive next year when alot of the highly ranked pitchers are gone. Gonna be tough.

Actually, the SEC has NEVER been considered the top softball conference, not widely, not at all... it's always been a Pac-12 stronghold.

The Pac-12 won 24 of the first 33 WCWS, with TAMU (Big-12), Oklahoma (Big-12), and Cal-State-Fullerton winning the others until 2012.

Bama's 2012 title and UF's 2014 title were the first and only softball NC's the SEC has ever won.

Now, there's an argument that can be made that the SEC has finally caught up to the Pac-12; and that we're finally keeping a lot of our talent at home, while also getting some of the other talent around the country... which never really happened before.

And it's fair to say the SEC was the top conference this year, as evidenced by UF and Bama knocking off so many of them right up to the finals; but we still need to collect a few more of these

before the SEC is widely considered the best softball conference.[/QUOTE]

 

[2Alum4EverVol]

Absolutely; there's no doubt that historically speaking Pac-12 as a group has accomplished a heckuva lot more than SEC. And the only thing that matters is a trophy!!

The game became popular out in the West long before it became fashionable for SEC schools to establish a program in the south, and by then West Coast Schools were enjoying unrivaled success early on. I remember going out to that little Tyson Park to watch our Lady Vols softball games just about 10-12 years ago or so when out in the west UCLAs and AZs of the world were winning a national championship after a national championship. All in all 5 different Pac-12 schools (UCLA, AZ, ASU, WA, CA) have won at least one national championship over the years. That’s pretty impressive. I'm not even sure if there's a school out there other than AZ which can eventually catch up to UCLA's hegemony of multiple championships in next 50 years seeing the parity and increasing popularity of the game nowadays. IMHO, we are gonna see more schools winning a NC vs. a few schools dominating the game which was the case with UCLA (12) & AZ (8).

But if one looks at the past 5 years, SEC has definitely caught up, and I can say w/ confidence that SEC not only has caught up, but surpassed the Pac-12 going forward. I would expect more SEC schools winning a NC VS. Pac-12 in next 10-15 years. SEC schools as a group have been set up now for unprecedented success. We’ve come a long way babe, but we’re here to stay and dominate!

 

[2Alum4EverVol]

In the past 5 years, 6 different SEC schools (TN, AL, FL, LSU, GA, KY) have made 13 appearances in WCWS winning the title twice (2012 AL; 2014 FL). In the same span, 6 Pac-12 schools (UCLA, AZ, ASU, CA, WA, OR) have made 11 appearances in WCWS winning the titles twice (2010 UCLA; 2011 ASU).

But the depth and strength of SEC from top to bottom as a group can be illustrated in 11 schools making the NCAA tournament in both 2013 and 2014 vs. 7 in 2013 & 5 in 2014 by Pac-12 schools. SEC is clearly the king of college softball IMO. It has no doubt benefited by two traditional powerhouses TAMU & Mizzou joining the league in 2013. Cheers.