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Marquees Collapsing
UT football, Kentucky basketball share hard times


by Tony Basilio

In a year when the UT basketball team has defied all conventional wisdom, one formula remains. That age-old theorem is tied around the eerie symbioses of UT football and Kentucky basketball. Both are the cash cows and all consuming fires for Big Blue/Big Orange fan bases. While other revenue generating sports have had periods of success, it’s UT football and UK b-ball that truly matter. Tennessee and Kentucky are each obsessed with succeeding in its sport of choice and pay close to $5 million a year in head coaching salaries just to prove it! Despite the expenditures, both tried and true programs, storied as they are, appear to be waning.

It goes without saying that UT football plummeted to parts unknown in ’05. Our most recent memory of our beloved football Vols is a dismal 5-6 season that was equally lethargic and unwatchable. It was UT’s worst year in football since ’88-89. While theories and excuses for last season abound, Tennessee logged its worst year because the coaches failed to recruit enough quality playmakers.

Kentucky basketball is “enjoying” (OK, I’m enjoying) its worst year since the scandal ridden days of Eddie Sutton’s regime back in ’88. Kentucky is failing to get it done with a team that is devoid of guys who can make plays. Like UT football, recruiting in Big Blue land has slipped. That slide comes under the watch of head coach Tubby Smith who, like Fulmer, jacks down a phat $2 million plus per season. But Tubby and Phil have a lot more in common than a few digits on the bi-weekly check; both continue to point back to ’98.

Kentucky’s last national championship occurred only months before Tennessee would claim the National Title. If that isn’t strange enough, both were led by home-state guys who hit key threes. For UK it was Cameron Mills drilling a couple of threes in the NCAA tourney. UT’s triple was provided by kicker Jeff Hall, whose game winning field goal versus Florida touched off a roar that is still heard reverberating in the bowels of Neyland.

Fan dissatisfaction with each party in question makes it possible to play a twisted game of mad libs by inserting either Fulmer or Smith. Try this.

Coach______ just doesn’t get the kids to play hard like they once did. Remember when they won the National Title back in ’98? Back then coach ______ used to make the right calls. Now he just stands there while the other team out-hustles us. Coach _____’s offense is unwatchable. How much longer do we have to endure this? And by the way, how many times is coach _____ going to tell us that he needs more discipline in his program? While I’m on the subject, coach ____ needs to take all the heat. After all, we are paying ______ over $2 million a year. It’s bad enough that we’re not competing for a championship this year but now coach _____ has us in the bottom half of our division. We really stink, and coach ___’s recruiting isn’t getting it done these days.

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The fill-in-the-blank portion is pretty darn eerily close to both programs.
 
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Good article. As happy as I am with our basketball team. I am more of a football person and want to see them back dominating.

Not to say we can't have both. I'm really excited at what next year will bring our basketvols.
 
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despite what many think our next football season will be a disaster, i think our football squad and basketball squad will prove their potential next year and do great
 
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A less "biting" view of some similar obserbations:

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl...1035/SPORTS0601

I did not realize the 1st round talent had fallen off quite that much before reading the article, and although I do think there are some special situations that account for some of it, it is an interesting read. I also think (and hope) there are some guys on the roster now that can break the trend.
 
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While theories and excuses for last season abound, Tennessee logged its worst year because the coaches failed to recruit enough quality playmakers.


I'm going to disagree with this statement. Trooper Taylor spoke at a recent Big Orange Club meeting here and he had some shocking comments.

A. For the past 7 years we have used the same signals for calling our plays. Our competitors, particularly in the SEC figured them out about 5 years ago. Our formation and the players inserted have offered verification of the play we were about to run.

B. Our QBs have had a bad habit of shaking their butts when under center only to stop shaking them when the ball was about to be snapped.

C. As a result of A and B our offense has been at a tremendous disadvantage. Not only does the D know our play, but they know when we're snapping the ball. The offensive line becomes the agressee rather than the aggressor (the OL has the advantage normally of knowing the snap count getting a first motion toward their blocking assignements). Our OL has played on it's heels the past 5 years because of this. As we all know, our offense has been stuffed.

D. Our position players have only known their responsibilities. Example, Meachem only plays one position and only knows his responsibilities. There has been no flexibility to our schemes due to this.

E. Cutcliff has all WRs and RBs learning each other's responsibilities and to help in that, he has simplified the routes and blocking assignments.

F. Cutcliff will change the personnel at his own chosing to disguise plays based on personnel. TE's will be able to run WR routes, the WRs will be able to run each other's routes.

G. QBs will no longer shake their moneymakers at the LOS.

H. We have many new plays and looks.

I. We will change our play calls from the sidelines each week.

Bottom line, if the D can perform closely to last year, we should have enough change in the offense to perform substantially better than last year.

I say our lack of developement of the offensive players with the added bonus of giving away our plays has bee the demise of the offense, not the talent.
 
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Brian, it's a hella lot easier to turn around a down BB program than a downtrodden FB program. So for our sake I hope the article is inaccurate.
 
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All basketball season the radio hosts up here noted the eerie similarities between the respective programs.
 
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(Lexvol @ Apr 30 said:
All basketball season the radio hosts up here noted the eerie similarities between the respective programs.

Hey lexvol, I heard that Woodburn is gone from 590. Anybody of note take his place, or is it just Cutler on WLAP now?
 
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(BHAMVOLFAN @ Apr 30 said:
While theories and excuses for last season abound, Tennessee logged its worst year because the coaches failed to recruit enough quality playmakers.


I'm going to disagree with this statement. Trooper Taylor spoke at a recent Big Orange Club meeting here and he had some shocking comments.

A. For the past 7 years we have used the same signals for calling our plays. Our competitors, particularly in the SEC figured them out about 5 years ago. Our formation and the players inserted have offered verification of the play we were about to run.

B. Our QBs have had a bad habit of shaking their butts when under center only to stop shaking them when the ball was about to be snapped.

C. As a result of A and B our offense has been at a tremendous disadvantage. Not only does the D know our play, but they know when we're snapping the ball. The offensive line becomes the agressee rather than the aggressor (the OL has the advantage normally of knowing the snap count getting a first motion toward their blocking assignements). Our OL has played on it's heels the past 5 years because of this. As we all know, our offense has been stuffed.

first time I have read this anywhere but it makes a lot of sense. especially considering how the opposing defense seems to always be ready for whatever UT calls, and how they never seemed to have any hesitation, especially on running plays. I had thought it was to a lack of variety and play action passing, sounds like they seally did know what UT was running.

Trooper doesn't even mention the number of players who have changed schools overs the years i.e. casey clausen, cj leak both at another SEC school. I am pretty sure UT changed the hand signals they used last year before they played Florida with CJ Leek on the opposing teams sidelines.
 
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I am pretty sure UT changed the hand signals they used last year before they played Florida with CJ Leek on the opposing teams sidelines

They didn't. They changed who was sending in the signals. In other words, it probably took 3 or 4 plays to determine who our "official signaler" was. Doh
 
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(BHAMVOLFAN @ Apr 30 said:
I am pretty sure UT changed the hand signals they used last year before they played Florida with CJ Leek on the opposing teams sidelines

They didn't. They changed who was sending in the signals. In other words, it probably took 3 or 4 plays to determine who our "official signaler" was. Doh


You've got to be kidding me. Fulmer cant be that stupid.
 
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(oklavol @ Apr 30 said:
You've got to be kidding me. Fulmer cant be that stupid.

That is definitely hard to believe, even though I vaguely remember Heath Shuler saying that he recognized a lot of the hand signals from his playing days.
 
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(GAVol @ Apr 30 said:
That is definitely hard to believe, even though I vaguely remember Heath Shuler saying that he recognized a lot of the hand signals from his playing days.
That's definitely inexcusable :banghead:
 
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This is ridiculous... We may as well just do away with the hand signals. Heck, Ainge could yell from the line of scrimmage to Cutcliffe.

"HEY COACH! IT'S 3RD AND 8! WHAT DO WE RUN?"
"WEAK SIDE ISO!"
 
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Well, it was an iso, but the offense got confused and it turned into a draw by accident. AGAIN. :banghead:
 
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I'd be happy to see them run a play that might get them the yardage needed.

I'm not saying the draw doesn't work, but when you and the 100,000 people around you are saying things like here comes the trusty draw play, it's probably wise to do something else.
 
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(Orangewhiteblood @ May 1 said:
I'd be happy to see them run a play that might get them the yardage needed.

I'm not saying the draw doesn't work, but when you and the 100,000 people around you are saying things like here comes the trusty draw play, it's probably wise to do something else.

Yep, the draw works when it is a surprise. It hardly is a surprise in our offense any more. On 3rd and 8, I would like to see us throw to a receiver on a 9 yard route, not on a 7 yard route. That irritates the hell out of me as well.
 
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"Woody" is gone? I haven't heard that, did he finally go back to calling Hockey games?

When he was with the Kentucky Thoroughblades he was always attempting to make the jump to the NHL.

I thought he might be out of the Hockey world when the failed second minor league hockey team failed in Lexington, especially since he had a minority share of ownership.

"Woody" and 590 WVLK is a good fit for him because he can rile up the UK crazies.
 

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