Maybe Phils Worst Enemy

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wilburnVol

wilburnVol

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Bruce Pearl has taken a scraggly group of ex-Buzzers, added enthusiasm, a new offensive and defensive approach then layered the whole team with discipline. Silk, sow's ear.

Phil has taken a group of All American types, clapped, kept a failing offensive scheme, what he has to do with the defense (special teams) bites, then layered the whole sordid affair with a spare the rod approach to player control.

Then, to make matters even worse, Bruuuuuce goes on and on about how he walks in the shadows of Pat, admires how she runs her teams, herself and her ability to adapt.

Pearl and Pat couldn't have focused the spotlight any sharper on Phil.

What does all this mean? IMO, along with what may well be the worst (in terms of reporting) recruiting year in ages, it means the acceleration of Phil's potential demise.

One year. That's all he's got left to right this ship before it sinks him. :bad:
 
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Are you nuckin' futs? CPF has the job as long as he wants it. The NC in '98 got him lifetime tenure in the eyes of the University and most alumni. The only way CPF gives up the reigns is if he bails for the NFL or gets offered the AD post.
 
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I agree. What a difference in coaching styles of Pearl and Summitt compared to "spare the rod" CPF. I hope, and this may be wishful thinking, but I hope we see some of the same fire that Pearl and Summitt exhibits with their players next season with the football program. You know bootcamp at Paris Island, S.C. might be a good summer getaway for CPF. He just might pick up some useful stuff there.
 
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Wait just a minute... CPF does not have the job forever or for any other adverbial term. He serves with the permission of Pilot Oil and Thunder Enterprises. Another year like the past and he'll be history.

I like the guy but Big Money will not stand for another dismal year. Like one poster on this board said CBP & CPS are really showing him (CPF) how it's done. :thumbsup:


 
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(wilburnVol @ Dec 22 said:
Bruce Pearl has taken a scraggly group of ex-Buzzers, added enthusiasm, a new offensive and defensive approach then layered the whole team with discipline. Silk, sow's ear.

Phil has taken a group of All American types, clapped, kept a failing offensive scheme, what he has to do with the defense (special teams) bites, then layered the whole sordid affair with a spare the rod approach to player control.

Then, to make matters even worse, Bruuuuuce goes on and on about how he walks in the shadows of Pat, admires how she runs her teams, herself and her ability to adapt.

Pearl and Pat couldn't have focused the spotlight any sharper on Phil.

What does all this mean? IMO, along with what may well be the worst (in terms of reporting) recruiting year in ages, it means the acceleration of Phil's potential demise.

One year. That's all he's got left to right this ship before it sinks him. :bad:
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Preach it brother.
 
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(Arclight @ Dec 22 said:
I like the guy but Big Money will not stand for another dismal year. Like one poster on this board said CBP & CPS are really showing him (CPF) how it's done. :thumbsup:
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For a lot of us the success or failure of the basketball teams (mens & womens) is meaningless. I would happily trade 100 womens ncaa championships for one BCS championship. Same goes for mens hoops. When Summit and Pearl bring home the BCS trophy then I'll listen.
 
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(VolunteerHillbilly @ Dec 22 said:
Are you nuckin' futs? CPF has the job as long as he wants it. The NC in '98 got him lifetime tenure in the eyes of the University and most alumni. The only way CPF gives up the reigns is if he bails for the NFL or gets offered the AD post.
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You know, the Romans killed Christ and many believe he was God On Earth.

Phil's not anywhere near as potentially invulnerable as you think but excuse me while I'll allow you your deluisionary view point. :crazy:
 
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(Arclight @ Dec 22 said:
Wait just a minute... CPF does not have the job forever or for any other adverbial term. He serves with the permission of Pilot Oil and Thunder Enterprises. Another year like the past and he'll be history.

I like the guy but Big Money will not stand for another dismal year. Like one poster on this board said CBP & CPS are really showing him (CPF) how it's done. :thumbsup:
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I like Phil a lot myself, brother, he could gator dance on the floor of the ATO house with the best of them. :blink:

But Big Money is bigger than Big Phil or Big Anybody for that matter and with $100,000,000.00 being spent on spiffy up stuff, Big Championships and Big Crowds for those Big Monies in those Big Skyboxes is what is demanded.

Big time. :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents:

 
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Phil is Phil's worst enemy! (except maybe John Adams and small Mike)
 
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Time and time again. He has six years left on his contract. The University will be saddled with the bill. He has a minimum of two years to turn it around and then if the program is still not up to par, he will be fired. The cost of firing him with this much on his contract and trying to pay someone else a decent amount will be too high.
 
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Sizing Phil up with Pearl is not fair. Pearl had great start to his first year but has not been consistant over the years like Phil and Pat have been. So, Phil will turn it around next season with the help of Cut and crew. It appears to me that Phil and Cut and like Brooks and Dunn. Great together but can't seem to hit it big on their own. Next season will be on the way up because the band is on a Reunion Tour.
 
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(VolunteerHillbilly @ Dec 22 said:
For a lot of us the success or failure of the basketball teams (mens & womens) is meaningless. I would happily trade 100 womens ncaa championships for one BCS championship. Same goes for mens hoops. When Summit and Pearl bring home the BCS trophy then I'll listen.
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I am a VOL fan, football first and foremost. However, I support all UT sports, and am excited about this year. I started watching UT basketball during the Jerry Green era, and wanted so bad for Buzz to win here. Now there is an energy in the players and on campus about the basketball team. Imagine if our football team had turned in seasons like this past year for the past 20 or so years, similar to the basketball team. There would be no fan support either as in years past. It is said time and time again that fans love the underdog, and you can't be much more of an underdog that UT men's basketball has been for the past couple of decades. I am proud of the effort from the team and coach Pearl, and plan on attending every game that I can this season. This does not mean that I favor basketball over football in any way. But how long do you think that the "Big Money" at UT will accept men's and women's basketball competing for conference championships on a yearly basis instead of consistently tying for second or third place in the east every year. Give CBP another year and that is where we will be at with the recruits he is bringing in.....I hope CPF gets this thing turned around and rolling in the right direction again.
 
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(hohenfelsvol @ Dec 22 said:
Sizing Phil up with Pearl is not fair. Pearl had great start to his first year but has not been consistant over the years like Phil and Pat have been. So, Phil will turn it around next season with the help of Cut and crew. It appears to me that Phil and Cut and like Brooks and Dunn. Great together but can't seem to hit it big on their own. Next season will be on the way up because the band is on a Reunion Tour.
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uh ok :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
 
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(bigdaddy @ Dec 22 said:
Time and time again. He has six years left on his contract. The University will be saddled with the bill. He has a minimum of two years to turn it around and then if the program is still not up to par, he will be fired. The cost of firing him with this much on his contract and trying to pay someone else a decent amount will be too high.
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:stop: :stop:
If we can raise $100,000,000.00 to spiffy up the grounds, we can raise enough money to do a negotiated buyout of Phil's contract.
 
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Let's see...oh, yeah here it is.................... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :horse:


jeez folks...get a grip...comparing Basketball (mens or womens) to football is ludicrous...for one, the expectations are different. for two, it's still early in bball season....pearl could go out and lose a whole lot of games before now and March. and what would happen then? would we be ready to kick him out too?

but that's neither here nor there. All season long it was fire Randy Sanders...well, done. then it was fire PW and JRS...well, done. so after that, that's still not good enough....and before we even see one spring practice, and even hire a WR coach, we're still on the CPF head hunt...get over it folks, he aint going no where, and i wonder what your tune will be next year should he win 9 or 10 games? i'm sure it will be cause of luck....and as for the recruiting...so freakin what? it's still early there too....y'all just need to relax, if you want him fired, then you better start passing around the offering plate and pony up about 6 million. until then, support your freakin team. :mf_surrender:

i'm not even saying CPF is all that great, but he is our coach, and he ain't going nowhere....and it's one freakin' season. Now we start having a string of this, then, well, it is time to do something, but until this is a trend, and not just one time thing, he gets his chance to fix it. :banghead:
 
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(jakez4ut @ Dec 22 said:
Let's see...oh, yeah here it is.................... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :horse:
jeez folks...get a grip...comparing Basketball (mens or womens) to football is ludicrous...for one...i'm not even saying CPF is all that great, but he is our coach, and he ain't going nowhere....and it's one freakin' season. Now we start having a string of this, then, well, it is time to do something, but until this is a trend, and not just one time thing, he gets his chance to fix it. :banghead:
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I see you have a hard head, let's also see if we can penetrate it. :blink:

No one has compared the sports of basketball to football only the coaches approaches and there relative successes. You do think Pat is successful, any argument there? :huh:

You have noticed the turn around in the same players with different coaching philosophies under Pearl, no? :unsure:

And if youthink that Phil "ain't going nowhere", then there is room on Delusional Island for you along with Hillbilly. :shades:
 
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(wilburnVol @ Dec 22 said:
I see you have a hard head, let's also see if we can penetrate it. :blink:

No one has compared the sports of basketball to football only the coaches approaches and there relative successes. You do think Pat is successful, any argument there? :huh:

You have noticed the turn around in the same players with different coaching philosophies under Pearl, no? :unsure:

And if youthink that Phil "ain't going nowhere", then there is room on Delusional Island for you along with Hillbilly. :shades:
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your comparing the coaches of the sports, and it's like comparing apples to grapes...it just aint the same...do i like Pat's and Pearl's philosophy? yeah, sure do. Do i think that the football team could use a change in some philosophies? yep, sure do. But that does not meant that Pearl or Pat are making Phil look bad, or that he should take note from what they are doing....

and as far as where he's going...hm, well you tell me who's going to pony up the bucks to buy him out thisyear or next? you? may be you could join us on you fantasy islaind or whatever....

and to that end...who are you going to get that's going to have immediate success? and be realistic....for all of you folks out there that want phil gone so baad, you need to think about who's going to replace him...
 
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oh, and lets also not forget that CBP has only coached what, 7 games? me thinks it's a bit early to tell Phil to go down the hall and take notes....

gimmie a break.
 
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(jakez4ut @ Dec 22 said:
oh, and lets also not forget that CBP has only coached what, 7 games? me thinks it's a bit early to tell Phil to go down the hall and take notes....

gimmie a break.
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Yes, one year (and especially 1/4 of one year) does not a career make. Don't get me wrong--I love the start our hoopers have had, and I hope hope Pearl continue building the success and enthusiam that our basketball program needs. But just as I'm not ready to crucify Phil for our losing season this year after a pretty good 12 leading up to it, I'm not ready to name a street for Bruce after 7 games, either. I like that he has the team playing better than anyone expected so far. I like the fact that they seem to play a hard, exciting brand of basketball. But we need more than a team that so far is undefeated against the OVC and a winner at a Texas team that just got humiliated by Duke before we build any shrines. I'm hopeful that Bruce has us pointed in the right direction, but let's make a few NCAAs before we let him start tutoring Fulmer.

As for Pat, well, go ahead and build the shrine. I'll light the first candle :focus:
 
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(savageorange @ Dec 22 said:
we've already had the first black HC in the SEC, how 'bout the first woman HC!! :toast:
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Think about that. A woman HC is more discriminated against then a black HC even in the 70s. :bad:
 
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(jakez4ut @ Dec 22 said:
oh, and lets also not forget that CBP has only coached what, 7 games? me thinks it's a bit early to tell Phil to go down the hall and take notes....

gimmie a break.
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Not a chance. You don't desereve one. Nor does Phil.

He stuck his head up his rectum and look where we are now. If he can't learn from the obvious and Bruuuuuuuce isn't the only disciplinerian who has been successful so don't give me that 7 game crap. it's the entire concept of player control that Phil has failed to embrace.

If you want to wallow in Phil's phat, go right ahead, snuggle up and get a bosom while you are at it.

ITM, 5-6, lost to Vandy
 
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(cotton @ Dec 22 said:
I'm hopeful that Bruce has us pointed in the right direction, but let's make a few NCAAs before we let him start tutoring Fulmer.

As for Pat, well, go ahead and build the shrine. I'll light the first candle :focus:
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No one said Bruuuuuce or Pat need to tutor anyone. Phil needs to learn from what right under his nose and the spotlight now is bigger on him than ever as pat and Bruuuuuce go about reminded him and all of us, player controal is a #1 priority.
 
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Yes, one year (and especially 1/4 of one year) does not a career make. Don't get me wrong--I love the start our hoopers have had, and I hope hope Pearl continue building the success and enthusiam that our basketball program needs. But just as I'm not ready to crucify Phil for our losing season this year after a pretty good 12 leading up to it, I'm not ready to name a street for Bruce after 7 games, either. I like that he has the team playing better than anyone expected so far. I like the fact that they seem to play a hard, exciting brand of basketball. But we need more than a team that so far is undefeated against the OVC and a winner at a Texas team that just got humiliated by Duke before we build any shrines. I'm hopeful that Bruce has us pointed in the right direction, but let's make a few NCAAs before we let him start tutoring Fulmer.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that Pearl go tutor Fulmer on how to coach. But I do think that Fulmer needs to take note on what some discipline can do for a team. Fulmer's "player coach" philosophy and mentality just doesn't cut it. I'm from the old school where a team is built from discipline. I think a coach earns true respect from players when you hold everyone accountable including players and coaches.
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