McElwain way better at crazy then Muschamp.

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I'm not sure if Jimmy Mc has a history of losing his mind or not. It also could be the pressures associated with that job. Seems to take a toll on each man who has been there ever since the Old Ball Coach.
 
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I desperately need to see this guy lose his **** on Sept. 26. If he's smiling and Gator chomping at the end of the game, I may have to be institutionalized.
 
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give_him 6 said:
I'm not sure if Jimmy Mc has a history of losing his mind or not. It also could be the pressures associated with that job. Seems to take a toll on each man who has been there ever since the Old Ball Coach.
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Or...it could be Coach Mac doesn't put up with stupid personal foul penalties by a so-called team leader following a TD run.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Or...it could be Coach Mac doesn't put up with stupid personal foul penalties by a so-called team leader following a TD run.
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When I heard about the story I agreed with the coach. Now that I see the video it looked over the top.

In the end it won't amount to much but damn that was crazy.
 
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I agree with bham... that was absolutely over the top. Just my opinion but once a person/coach starts slinging his arms, as well as slinging his saliva in a player's face, all he has really shown is that he can't maintain his own composure. There were numerous ways he could have handled that better, and not too many ways he could have handled it worse. And if you're really supporting that type of behavior LW, then I've lost a little respect for you as a fan.
 
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If he's willing to put his team at risk in this situation against a bad team, he's willing to do it against a team that matters, perhaps after taking a late lead in a big game. He won't do it again. Smart move by the coach.
 
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crusse10 said:
If he's willing to put his team at risk in this situation against a bad team, he's willing to do it against a team that matters, perhaps after taking a late lead in a big game. He won't do it again. Smart move by the coach.
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You're absolutely right crusse. The only way young men and teenagers can learn from their mistakes is to berate them in front of their peers, get in their face to the point of nearly spitting on them, and throw in a few good f-bombs for even more emphasis.

I don't know why parents and bosses didn't figure this out a long time ago. We would clearly have much better kids and employees if we all used this approach to make sure someone didn't make the same mistake more than once.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
You're absolutely right crusse. The only way young men and teenagers can learn from their mistakes is to berate them in front of their peers, get in their face to the point of nearly spitting on them, and throw in a few good f-bombs for even more emphasis.

I don't know why parents and bosses didn't figure this out a long time ago. We would clearly have much better kids and employees if we all used this approach to make sure someone didn't make the same mistake more than once.
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yep.....clearly should have put him in timeout
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Or...it could be Coach Mac doesn't put up with stupid personal foul penalties by a so-called team leader following a TD run.
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I don't blame him for blowing up. I have no problem with it. Free Taylor cares because it's his son. Otherwise he'd praise it 100%
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
You're absolutely right crusse. The only way young men and teenagers can learn from their mistakes is to berate them in front of their peers, get in their face to the point of nearly spitting on them, and throw in a few good f-bombs for even more emphasis.

I don't know why parents and bosses didn't figure this out a long time ago. We would clearly have much better kids and employees if we all used this approach to make sure someone didn't make the same mistake more than once.
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Perhaps Coach Mac should have sat him down with milk and cookies and talked over the incident. Made sure he got in touch with the player's emotional side to stress the importance of not making dumb penalties and gave him a smile at the end and a pat on the behind.

Good grief, you act like he beat him with a club or something...
 
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utvols88 said:
I don't blame him for blowing up. I have no problem with it. Fred Taylor cares because it's his son. Otherwise he'd praise it 100%
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After hearing the audio, Fred said he had a problem with Coach Mac "questioning his son's manhood".

Had Fred also seen the accompanying video, he'd know the reason for that comment was due to Kelvin looking down at the ground instead of looking Mac in the eye...something fathers should teach their sons at an early age.

A little context goes a long way.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
You're absolutely right crusse. The only way young men and teenagers can learn from their mistakes is to berate them in front of their peers, get in their face to the point of nearly spitting on them, and throw in a few good f-bombs for even more emphasis.

I don't know why parents and bosses didn't figure this out a long time ago. We would clearly have much better kids and employees if we all used this approach to make sure someone didn't make the same mistake more than once.
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Every single Florida football player learned the lesson at the exact same time that he did. Over/Under on excessive celebration/taunting penalties the rest of the way for Florida? If the line is .5, I'm taking the under.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Perhaps Coach Mac should have sat him down with milk and cookies and talked over the incident. Made sure he got in touch with the player's emotional side to stress the importance of not making dumb penalties and gave him a smile at the end and a pat on the behind.

Good grief, you act like he beat him with a club or something...
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C'mon GV... you're better than offering up a blatant non sequitur like this when you know I wasn't inferring anything similar to what you're suggesting.

I have no problems with coaches getting in a player's face to make a point. I've done it myself on multiple occasions, but never to the extent that McElwain did which CLEARLY makes him look like he's lost control (and in actuality he probably had lost control of his emotions). He's trying to make a point of "not doing something foolish" by maintaining control of your emotions after scoring a big TD, and does so by actually "doing something that looks foolish" and losing control of his own emotions. In other words... what he did was just as foolish as what Taylor did.

It was clearly a teaching moment that likely required some "emphasis" from the coach, but when you look like you've "lost it" then your message can also get lost because you look like an idiot. If he really wanted to emphasize the point he could have benched Taylor for the rest of the game, but instead put him right back in the game on the next offensive series (so other than being spit on what was the actual "penalty" for doing something that made a coach look like an idiot?). As a player, I would much rather be yelled at by a coach that looks like a fool but still be able to play versus being benched and not being able to play.

I can't believe some of you guys actually think this was appropriate coaching behavior. And iirc there were many who supported Tyler Bray when he made the same exact throat slash motion after a big play, and now you're siding with a coach who goes ballistic trying to make the point how foolish and selfish the act is. smh

Florida Gators coach Jim McElwain loses mind on RB Kelvin Taylor after throat slash gesture | ONLY GATORS Get Out Alive
McElwain, who has been preaching discipline inside the Gators’ locker room, was proud one week ago as Florida only committed a single penalty in its 61-13 win over New Mexico State.
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yeah... that was a great example of showing some discipline by a coach.

Fred Taylor, Jim McElwain address coach’s outburst at Florida Gators RB Kelvin Taylor | ONLY GATORS Get Out Alive

Fred Taylor, appearing on ESPN Radio‘s Dan LeBatard Show, called McElwain’s outburst “a little bit of an overreaction” but noted he does “understand coaching” and understood the moment and reason for McElwain’s rant at his son.

He did, however, note that McElwain being so angry and demonstrative on the sideline gives outsiders the opportunity to “make a mockery” of the Gators, calling the entire incident “a little much.”
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The coach noted that he was not proud of his outburst – “I’m no different: I make mistakes, we all make mistakes.” – even though he stood behind his reasoning for it given the lessons he is trying to teach the players. He pointed out that even coaches can learn lessons as a season goes on.
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“I’m not proud of it and neither is my mother, 94 years old,” he said. “I got an earful from her, too, and rightfully so.”
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When a former Gator says it was a bit much, and even the coach admits he wasn't proud of it and it was a mistake, then it would be safe to assume it was over the top.
 
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So assuming it was over the top, Fred's spoken his peace, and Kelvin's tweeted that he respects Coach Mac, now what?
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
So assuming it was over the top, Fred's spoken his peace, and Kelvin's tweeted that he respects Coach Mac, now what?
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I guarantee you that in the future the kid will do what he should always do when you score, which is accept the congratulations of your teammates and act like you've been there before.
 
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