mcnamee says he injected clemens wife

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McNamee has no motivation to lie, but saving syringes and bloody gauze is just weird.
 
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OK..Let me go ahead and say it, just to get it out of the way:
"I'd inject Clemens wife with something"

There now we can move on.
 
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GAVol said:
McNamee has no motivation to lie, but saving syringes and bloody gauze is just weird.
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As I said in the other thread, think of Monica Lewinsky's dress. When you're involved in something nefarious with the rich and/or powerful, it makes sense to save whatever evidence you can. They're going to have the best lawyers available if it ever comes out in public, so it helps a lot to have whatever tangible evidence on your side that you can.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
As I said in the other thread, think of Monica Lewinsky's dress. When you're involved in something nefarious with the rich and/or powerful, it makes sense to save whatever evidence you can. They're going to have the best lawyers available if it ever comes out in public, so it helps a lot to have whatever tangible evidence on your side that you can.
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i can't argue against that. But it's still weird. Very, very weird.
 
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volfanbill said:
i can't argue against that. But it's still weird. Very, very weird.
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I don't think it's that weird. McNamee was committing a crime at the behest of and for the benefit of some wealthy and famous people. I can easily see him thinking something like, "If the shite hits the fan, these guys and their lawyers are going to sanctimoniously deny everything and I'm going down alone. Screw that. I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that I don't end up taking the fall for this whole thing."

It's not exactly something I'd want to have in the back of my own closet, either. But I can see why McNamee thought it was a good insurance policy to hang onto some of that stuff.
 
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GAVol said:
McNamee has no motivation to lie, but saving syringes and bloody gauze is just weird.
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I agree, that is very weird. I wonder if he had originally planned to blackmail Clemens down the road for a payoff by saving that stuff?

I bet Jason Giambi is glad he took the approach to this as he did. Giambi has gotten less heat than anyone caught up in the MLB steriod situation by admitting he did it and apoligizing for it.
 
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jkell24 said:
I agree, that is very weird. I wonder if he had originally planned to blackmail Clemens down the road for a payoff by saving that stuff?

I bet Jason Giambi is glad he took the approach to this as he did. Giambi has gotten less heat than anyone caught up in the MLB steriod situation by admitting he did it and apoligizing for it.
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Andy Petitte also came up smelling like roses. Everyone in the Mitchell Report is glad this Roger thing has gotten out of control.
 
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all this has proven to me is use of HGH is FAR more common than we think. actors will use it to get ripped for parts, athletes will use it with no fear, etc etc.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I don't think it's that weird. McNamee was committing a crime at the behest of and for the benefit of some wealthy and famous people. I can easily see him thinking something like, "If the shite hits the fan, these guys and their lawyers are going to sanctimoniously deny everything and I'm going down alone. Screw that. I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that I don't end up taking the fall for this whole thing."

It's not exactly something I'd want to have in the back of my own closet, either. But I can see why McNamee thought it was a good insurance policy to hang onto some of that stuff.
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then where is the evidence for everyone else? Other than the "biggest name", why is he on such a mission to single out Clemens?
 
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he was clemens personal trainer. he had pretty good evidence for others too. receipts, checks, fed ex signitures.
 
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droski said:
he was clemens personal trainer. he had pretty good evidence for others too. receipts, checks, fed ex signitures.
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that's one thing, why clemens' syringes? He helped pettite out too but he doesn't have his syringes.
 
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If Clemens wasn't pissed before, I bet he's steamed now for bringing his wife into. Sorry Rog, you're going to get caught.
 
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Rumor is Mcnamee also injected Clemens' dog right before a Westminster dog show.
 
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I heard Mcnamee injected himself before he spoke to the reforms committee, to insure himself a witty on-time response to their questions.
 
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volfanbill said:
that's one thing, why clemens' syringes? He helped pettite out too but he doesn't have his syringes.
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Maybe Clemens was an ass to him at the time. Maybe he just injected Clemens 20 times more than everybody else. Maybe it's just that Roger Clemens is a bigger name than everybody else put together. I just don't think it's that weird that he would single out the guy whom everybody was calling the greatest modern-day pitcher of all more than everybody else.

(Note that I am not sanctioning it, any more than I'm sanctioning ratting players out. I'm just saying that I can see why he'd do it.)
 
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It seems like having Clemens' DNA on one object and traces of steroids on ANOTHER object proves nothing. I'm not saying that I'm on Clemens' side. I'm just saying that this evidence (which could have been doctored) would only prove that he injected Clemens with something and injected somebody with steroids.
 
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