Medicare Bonus Scam

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From the Washington Times:

The bonuses for high-quality Medicare Advantage plans were designed to drive down the government’s long-term costs by putting seniors in approved private plans that cut their out-of-pocket costs in exchange for limits on care and choice. But the Government Accountability Office report says the bonuses will cost the government $8.3 billion over the next decade, almost three times what was intended.

The GAO says the Obama administration overextended the pilot program, and thus it isn’t likely to give the government useful information on how best to improve coverage for seniors, as the administration claimed.

“The design of the demonstration precludes a credible evaluation of its effectiveness” in determining “whether a scaled bonus structure leads to” better health care for seniors, the GAO says.

While the report by Congress‘ nonpartisan investigative arm prompted a quick White House response, Republicans accused the administration of using the bonus program not as a tool to encourage the best private insurance plans for seniors, but as a way to expand the number of bonuses and thus hide the impact of unpopular Medicare cuts at a politically awkward time.

“The Obama administration seems to be using a technicality to sidestep Congress and write itself a blank check to spend more money for political purposes leading into this year’s elections,” said Sen. Orrin G. Hatch of Utah, the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee. “This is simply unacceptable. The White House does not have the authority to green light spending on whatever program it wants.”

The GAO report was issued amid growing concerns that the government’s major entitlement programs are fast approaching insolvency. An annual trustees report released Monday shows that Social Security benefits will run out in 2033, three years earlier than previously thought, while Medicare still is set to run dry in 2024.

The White House didn’t show any signs of retreating from its expansion of the bonus program, saying it goes hand-in-hand with other reforms to Medicare Advantage aimed at making the program more effective.

“So the context here is one of squeezing savings out of Medicare Advantage programs, reducing overpayments through these programs,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said. “And this demonstration project is simply a way to, we believe, ensure that these programs are as cost-efficient as possible.”

With both parties wrestling for the allegiance of older adults in November, Medicare Advantage has become especially contentious. The administration says the scheduled Medicare cuts simply correct a system that has overpaid doctors for years.

Lawmakers created a bonus program under the president’s Affordable Care Act to determine whether awarding extra funding to the highest-performing Medicare Advantage plans could encourage these four- and five-star plans to offer more at less cost. Covering about one-fourth of seniors, the alternative program works with 3,000 private insurance plans to offer coverage that more resembles a health maintenance organization (HMO) than traditional Medicare.

However, Department of Health and Human Services officials announced last year that they temporarily would make the bonus structure more generous by extending the bonuses to three-star plans as well.

The GAO found that most of the those bonuses would go to the three- and 3.5-star plans, costing the government an extra $5.34 billion, or almost two-thirds of the $8.3 billion that will be spent over the next 10 years. This year, the bonuses have offset about 70 percent of the cuts in the federal health care law, appearing to dampen their potential damage to Mr. Obama’s re-election prospects.

The agency also disagrees with the administration’s claim that it could collect better evidence by expanding the bonus program, saying the “demonstration” wasn’t set up in a way that could provide clear conclusions.

The GAO made the rare move of recommending that the program be canceled. Officials said they had listened to objections from HHS about its conclusions, but “we determined that our recommendation is warranted and our finding is sound.”

Talk about an election year tap dance. If Obamacare is so great, why this effort to hide the recuctions in benefits and higher costs until after the election.....hummm.
(By the way LG, Medicare is broken and this proves that the government NEEDS private companies to bail them out)
 
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Why does this not surprise me. Also shows how the blank check that Obamacare provides the Exec branch WRT writing the rules is corruption just waiting to happen.
 
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You realize, don't you, that even if one assumes that this $8 billion is a pure mistake and done temporarily by Obama only in an election year, that the point is that it is designed to offset CUTS to Medicare MANDATED by the Obama health care plan?

The program was only slated to last through 2014 and only offsets about 70 percent of the CUTS to SOCIAL SPENDING in Medicare called for by Obamacare.

Good to see the GOP railing against Obamacare on the one hand, and then on the other bashing the very cuts to social spending it claims is absolutely necessary to get control of the debt.

I agree that we need a long term solution to the debt and to reform of SS and Medicare. No question about it. We need both cuts AND increased revenue. As soon as everyone stops posturing and insisting that the other side give on all fronts, we can work to get this squared away.

We came close to trimming the debt by about a third last summer, until that ghoul Cantor and his sidekick Norquist rode in and threatened to cut off Boehner's balls if he made the deal.

You can't have it both ways. You cannot bash Obamacare as pure evil, despite the fact that it would at least begin the process of dealing with Medicare insolvency, and then bash the temporary offset of the initial to the health care industry.

I really don't see this as a winner for the GOP since they are the ones demanding that Obamacare be repealed, including its CUTS to SOCIAL SPENDING as repeatedly demanded by the GOP.
 
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It is robbing the medicare fund to hide the cuts in benefits to the seniors until after the election. You can not spin this into a good thing in any way shape or form LG.
Tell me how the 8 million will be replaced into the medicare fund that is already slated to go broke by 2024?
You say that medicare is a good example of a government program that is efficient and it can not even survive without private insurance companies help.

These bonuses are not a bridge to helping Obamacare reduce costs, they are a bribe for VOTES.
 
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By the way, this report comes from the GAO, not the GOP. You are blaming the flaming of this bonus program on the wrong group there Skippy.

Why do you think that BHO signed this extension under cover of night?
 
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It is robbing the medicare fund to hide the cuts in benefits to the seniors until after the election. You can not spin this into a good thing in any way shape or form LG.
Tell me how the 8 million will be replaced into the medicare fund that is already slated to go broke by 2024?
You say that medicare is a good example of a government program that is efficient and it can not even survive without private insurance companies help.

These bonuses are not a bridge to helping Obamacare reduce costs, they are a bribe for VOTES.


Even if I agree with you (and I am tempted to) that the motivation is not to create an incentive to struggling plans but instead to hide the cuts in an election year, you still are not answering my point, which is that the GOP is assailing as pure socialism a program that will cut one of the two main social spending programs the GOP claims to want to see reformed.

The GOP position is inherently self-contradictory and just doesn't make any sense.



By the way, this report comes from the GAO, not the GOP. You are blaming the flaming of this bonus program on the wrong group there Skippy.

Why do you think that BHO signed this extension under cover of night?


Pay closer attention to what you post, please. The GAO criticism is that the program's effect as an incentive is not measurable.

Its the usual GOP hatchet men who have come out claiming that the GAO report is some sort of proof positive that its a bad idea. That is a complete bastardization of what the GAO says -- the GAO says the program cannot be measured. That's all.
 
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Even if I agree with you (and I am tempted to) that the motivation is not to create an incentive to struggling plans but instead to hide the cuts in an election year, you still are not answering my point, which is that the GOP is assailing as pure socialism a program that will cut one of the two main social spending programs the GOP claims to want to see reformed.

The GOP position is inherently self-contradictory and just doesn't make any sense.


Like I said, you can not spin this one. It is BHO writing a blank check to buy votes. This does not help reform Medicare and you know it. Your "means to an end" theory is horse shat.

Pay closer attention to what you post, please. The GAO criticism is that the program's effect as an incentive is not measurable.

Its the usual GOP hatchet men who have come out claiming that the GAO report is some sort of proof positive that its a bad idea. That is a complete bastardization of what the GAO says -- the GAO says the program cannot be measured. That's all.

Common sense tells us what this program is. The GAO being non-partisan can not call it what it is but I, and any one that is not a liberal hack, can.
 
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Once again, why did he sign this without approval of either the House or Senate?

How will he replace the 8.3 billion?
 
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Common sense tells us what this program is. The GAO being non-partisan can not call it what it is but I, and any one that is not a liberal hack, can.


If you want to say it was an election year ploy to avoid having to talk about Medicare cuts called for by Obamacare, that's fine. I think that is a fair comment and probably correct criticism.

But hand in hand with that goes the simple fact that you (and the GOP) have to acknowledge that Obama care would cut Medicare, which is something the GOP insists must be done but the plan for which they decry as evil incarnate.
 
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Attached being a perfect example of what I'm talking about: White House Defends $8 Billion Wasted on Medicare Bonuses - Medicare - Fox Nation

This is a Fox News story on it. Note first that they don't directly mention the Medicare program cuts called for by Obamacare. Isn't that an important point to the story? Note second that it reads like it was written by a drunk monkey. Honestly, who do they hire over there? Its like they have no journalistic standards at all.
 
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Attached being a perfect example of what I'm talking about: White House Defends $8 Billion Wasted on Medicare Bonuses - Medicare - Fox Nation

This is a Fox News story on it. Note first that they don't directly mention the Medicare program cuts called for by Obamacare. Isn't that an important point to the story? Note second that it reads like it was written by a drunk monkey. Honestly, who do they hire over there? Its like they have no journalistic standards at all.

By Jake Tapper | ABC

nice try, counselor
 
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Once again, why did he sign this without approval of either the House or Senate?

How will he replace the 8.3 billion?


Well, if in the first year it only makes up for 70 percent of the cuts, and even less the second year and then ends, it would seem that the plan is a net positive for reducing federal spending.

Look, I can't say I like the program. Its almost certainly just a way to deflect attention away from Medicare cuts.

Its just that the feigned outrage of the GOP over this, when they are ALSO calling for Medicare cuts, that seems so disgutingly hypocritical. Neither side tells the whole truth. Could never get elected if they did.
 
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Attached being a perfect example of what I'm talking about: White House Defends $8 Billion Wasted on Medicare Bonuses - Medicare - Fox Nation

This is a Fox News story on it. Note first that they don't directly mention the Medicare program cuts called for by Obamacare. Isn't that an important point to the story? Note second that it reads like it was written by a drunk monkey. Honestly, who do they hire over there? Its like they have no journalistic standards at all.

See, I told you there is no way you can spin this one.
 
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Well, if in the first year it only makes up for 70 percent of the cuts, and even less the second year and then ends, it would seem that the plan is a net positive for reducing federal spending.

Look, I can't say I like the program. Its almost certainly just a way to deflect attention away from Medicare cuts.

Its just that the feigned outrage of the GOP over this, when they are ALSO calling for Medicare cuts, that seems so disgutingly hypocritical. Neither side tells the whole truth. Could never get elected if they did.

Once again, IF these cuts are good ones, and prove just how well Obamacare will save us money, why did BHO do this under cover of night? Don't you think he would have been shouting this from the mountaintops AND would have had both houses behind it instead of going behind both houses?

He is robbing Peter to pay Paul.
 
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