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Dear Coach:

That was a nice win against Georgia. Good defensive intensity through the first 30 minutes and what an amazing performance at the free-throw line. Let's hope the team continues to shoot FT's so well.

However, I was disturbed to see an all-too-familiar negative stat in the box score--a bad stat that has been the Vols Achilles heel for at least a DECADE: 9 assists and 20 turnovers. Year after year, game after game, UT has a BAD assist to turnover ratio! What does it mean? It means you have a BAD PASSING TEAM--and this has been the case for YEARS. This is why UT's offensive play has been consistently SLOPPY, consistently INEFFICIENT, for years--and why UT has shot the ball poorly in many, many games. This is why you lose to good teams. You need to teach your players how to move the ball more effectively and how to make better passes that lead to better shots.

You want to get the ball into the low post--and yet your players on the wings don't recognize when, say, Russell has established ideal position and needs to get the ball. They typically wait too long--and then either pass it when she is no longer open or they try to make an overhead pass that a defender intercepts instead of the more FUNDAMENTALLY SOUND bounce pass. You must work on this--or if you do, work on it more. It does you no good to have a low post player if your guards and wings do not know when and how best to pass her the ball!

Look at Simmons yesterday: 0 assists, 4 turnovers! How does a senior guard with her quickness and skills have a stat line like that? How is that a senior guard who has been in your system for four years is such a bad passer in half-court sets? Simmons could be breaking down defenses and creating good shots for other players, but she doesn't because she's a weak passer. I wish it weren't true--but it is: She's got more career turnovers than assists. This, again, is why you do not fare well against good teams. Too many bad passes, too many turnovers, too much inefficiency.

What is the one big difference between UConn and UT over the last 10+ years? It is that UConn passes the ball much better than UT. I have been watching UT for 20 years--and for the last 10 I have thought that, any day now, the coaches will recognize that they must improve the team's passing and reduce the sloppiness and turnovers--but it doesn't happen. This is something you must correct or you will never get UT back to the top. I look forward to the day when I see the stats, and one of them is: 15 assists, 8 turnovers. Good luck.
 
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Please go down to your local YMCA and volunteer your vast knowledge of the game. Obviously, you know so much more than a college coach that has her team ranked in the top ten.
 
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For the season 257 assists and 250 turnovers. Uconn 314 assists and 173 turnovers. 1.81 for UConn and 1.03 for Tennessee. 11.5 turnovers a game for them and 17.9 for us. That equals out to 6.4 possessions per game that we just give away. They get 43.2 rebounds per game and shoot .747 from the foul line. They hit 50 percent from the field overall and 35 percent from the foul line. Tennessee hits 45.6 percent from the field overall and 35 percent from the three point line. We average 50.8 rebounds per game. They take 21 threes a game we take 15. We get to the line 25 times a game and hit 72 percent. They only get there 18 times hit 75 percent.

Based only on stats they would outscore us from the three point line by 9 points. We would win the free throw line by 4 points. They would win from the field 46 points to 42 points. They would also gain about 5 extra possessions on us considering that they average five more steals per game and 6 less turnovers. The steals are negated by us getting 7 more rebounds. It still would mean plus six points for them based on making half their shots off of our turnovers.

The final score based only on stats: UConn 87 Tennessee 72.
 
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For the season 257 assists and 250 turnovers. Uconn 314 assists and 173 turnovers. 1.81 for UConn and 1.03 for Tennessee. 11.5 turnovers a game for them and 17.9 for us. That equals out to 6.4 possessions per game that we just give away. They get 43.2 rebounds per game and shoot .747 from the foul line. They hit 50 percent from the field overall and 35 percent from the foul line. Tennessee hits 45.6 percent from the field overall and 35 percent from the three point line. We average 50.8 rebounds per game. They take 21 threes a game we take 15. We get to the line 25 times a game and hit 72 percent. They only get there 18 times hit 75 percent.

Based only on stats they would outscore us from the three point line by 9 points. We would win the free throw line by 4 points. They would win from the field 46 points to 42 points. They would also gain about 5 extra possessions on us considering that they average five more steals per game and 6 less turnovers. The steals are negated by us getting 7 more rebounds. It still would mean plus six points for them based on making half their shots off of our turnovers.

The final score based only on stats: UConn 87 Tennessee 72.
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This convoluted conclusion would make Rube Goldberg proud.:whistling:
 
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armchair said:
Dear Coach:

That was a nice win against Georgia. Good defensive intensity through the first 30 minutes and what an amazing performance at the free-throw line. Let's hope the team continues to shoot FT's so well.

However, I was disturbed to see an all-too-familiar negative stat in the box score--a bad stat that has been the Vols Achilles heel for at least a DECADE: 9 assists and 20 turnovers. Year after year, game after game, UT has a BAD assist to turnover ratio! What does it mean? It means you have a BAD PASSING TEAM--and this has been the case for YEARS. This is why UT's offensive play has been consistently SLOPPY, consistently INEFFICIENT, for years--and why UT has shot the ball poorly in many, many games. This is why you lose to good teams. You need to teach your players how to move the ball more effectively and how to make better passes that lead to better shots.

You want to get the ball into the low post--and yet your players on the wings don't recognize when, say, Russell has established ideal position and needs to get the ball. They typically wait too long--and then either pass it when she is no longer open or they try to make an overhead pass that a defender intercepts instead of the more FUNDAMENTALLY SOUND bounce pass. You must work on this--or if you do, work on it more. It does you no good to have a low post player if your guards and wings do not know when and how best to pass her the ball!

Look at Simmons yesterday: 0 assists, 4 turnovers! How does a senior guard with her quickness and skills have a stat line like that? How is that a senior guard who has been in your system for four years is such a bad passer in half-court sets? Simmons could be breaking down defenses and creating good shots for other players, but she doesn't because she's a weak passer. I wish it weren't true--but it is: She's got more career turnovers than assists. This, again, is why you do not fare well against good teams. Too many bad passes, too many turnovers, too much inefficiency.

What is the one big difference between UConn and UT over the last 10+ years? It is that UConn passes the ball much better than UT. I have been watching UT for 20 years--and for the last 10 I have thought that, any day now, the coaches will recognize that they must improve the team's passing and reduce the sloppiness and turnovers--but it doesn't happen. This is something you must correct or you will never get UT back to the top. I look forward to the day when I see the stats, and one of them is: 15 assists, 8 turnovers. Good luck.
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Georgia could not overcome Tennessee’s Isabelle Harrison on the inside or Ariel Massengale on the perimeter as the No. 5 Lady Vols defeated the Lady Bulldogs 85-70 Sunday at Stegeman Coliseum.
Georgia (12-3), which has lost three of its last four games, is now 0-2 in the Southeastern Conference for the first time since the 1992-93 season. Tennessee (12-2), which lost its conference opener against LSU on Thursday, is 1-1 in the SEC.
After a lackluster first half that saw the Lady Bulldogs trailing 40-28, it seemed to be more of the same for the first seven minutes of the second half as Tennessee went ahead by 20 with 15 minutes remaining and built the lead to 28 points, thanks in no small part to the play of Massengale, who scored 23 second-half points and finished with a game-high 28.
In a four-minute span, the junior guard tallied 14 points, including a 3-point shot to make the score 49-34, a 3-point play to make it 57-34 and a steal from Barbee’s inbound pass and layup to make it 59-34.
But with seven minutes remaining, Georgia caught fire, going on a 31-9 run to pull within six points with 1:12 remaining. The Lady Bulldogs were paced by Krista Donald, who finished with a season-high 18 points (and 10 rebounds) and Tiaria Griffin, who finished with 15 points, during their late run.
“We can’t give up, ever,” Georgia forward Merritt Hempe, who had 13 points and six rebounds, said. “We can always come back and we proved that tonight. We just need to keep executing so we can finish a game.”
Georgia coach Andy Landers pointed to players he felt were applying the appropriate mindset and wondered aloud if the rest of the team played with the same ardor.
“I thought that Merrrit Hempe and Krista Donald and Khaalidah Miller played with a lot of pride,” Landers said. “They fought the fight the entire 40 minutes. …They were fighting. We’re down 20, they’re fighting. Their attitude about competing in the game never changed. And I’m not sure I could see that same attitude with everybody else.”
Landers added that for a few glaring lapses he felt his team played good defense in the first 20 minutes.
“They did what they do and it looked like in the first half, I was actually pleased with the way we defended them in the first half – the way we defended the ball screens and the way we defended inside,” Landers said. “(In the) second half they got the momentum. I called a bad set – I should have known better that they had sized up at halftime, stole an entry pass and laid it up. They had momentum for the next 10 or 12 minutes.”
In the first 20 minutes, Georgia had no answer for the 6-foot-3 Harrison, who scored 18 points (all in the first half) and pulled down 10 rebounds (six in the first half) to record her sixth consecutive double-double of the season.
“She is playing well in the paint right now,” Tennessee coach Holly Warlick said of Harrison, who came into the game averaging 13.5 points and 9.2 rebounds per game. “Our goal was to get inside. We wanted to establish inside presence. (Harrison) is solid. She shot the ball well. She hit her free throws today, 8-for-8.”
Not unlike the hole they dug against Tennessee on Sunday, the Lady Bulldogs are in an early hole in the SEC standings, but the overall feeling is that there’s still plenty of time to get back on the right foot.
“It is what it is – everybody’s something, but it’s only two games,” Landers said. “It doesn’t feel good and you don’t like it. But it’s a long time until the first of March.”
“It’s not really discouraging,” added Griffin. “It should motivate us to get better and try to win the rest of them.”
The Lady Bulldogs will return to the floor at 8 p.m. Thursday at Missouri (12-3, 1-1 in the SEC).
 
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Georgia could not overcome Tennessee’s Isabelle Harrison on the inside or Ariel Massengale on the perimeter as the No. 5 Lady Vols defeated the Lady Bulldogs 85-70 Sunday at Stegeman Coliseum.
Georgia (12-3), which has lost three of its last four games, is now 0-2 in the Southeastern Conference for the first time since the 1992-93 season. Tennessee (12-2), which lost its conference opener against LSU on Thursday, is 1-1 in the SEC.
After a lackluster first half that saw the Lady Bulldogs trailing 40-28, it seemed to be more of the same for the first seven minutes of the second half as Tennessee went ahead by 20 with 15 minutes remaining and built the lead to 28 points, thanks in no small part to the play of Massengale, who scored 23 second-half points and finished with a game-high 28.
In a four-minute span, the junior guard tallied 14 points, including a 3-point shot to make the score 49-34, a 3-point play to make it 57-34 and a steal from Barbee’s inbound pass and layup to make it 59-34.
But with seven minutes remaining, Georgia caught fire, going on a 31-9 run to pull within six points with 1:12 remaining. The Lady Bulldogs were paced by Krista Donald, who finished with a season-high 18 points (and 10 rebounds) and Tiaria Griffin, who finished with 15 points, during their late run.
“We can’t give up, ever,” Georgia forward Merritt Hempe, who had 13 points and six rebounds, said. “We can always come back and we proved that tonight. We just need to keep executing so we can finish a game.”
Georgia coach Andy Landers pointed to players he felt were applying the appropriate mindset and wondered aloud if the rest of the team played with the same ardor.
“I thought that Merrrit Hempe and Krista Donald and Khaalidah Miller played with a lot of pride,” Landers said. “They fought the fight the entire 40 minutes. …They were fighting. We’re down 20, they’re fighting. Their attitude about competing in the game never changed. And I’m not sure I could see that same attitude with everybody else.”
Landers added that for a few glaring lapses he felt his team played good defense in the first 20 minutes.
“They did what they do and it looked like in the first half, I was actually pleased with the way we defended them in the first half – the way we defended the ball screens and the way we defended inside,” Landers said. “(In the) second half they got the momentum. I called a bad set – I should have known better that they had sized up at halftime, stole an entry pass and laid it up. They had momentum for the next 10 or 12 minutes.”
In the first 20 minutes, Georgia had no answer for the 6-foot-3 Harrison, who scored 18 points (all in the first half) and pulled down 10 rebounds (six in the first half) to record her sixth consecutive double-double of the season.
“She is playing well in the paint right now,” Tennessee coach Holly Warlick said of Harrison, who came into the game averaging 13.5 points and 9.2 rebounds per game. “Our goal was to get inside. We wanted to establish inside presence. (Harrison) is solid. She shot the ball well. She hit her free throws today, 8-for-8.”
Not unlike the hole they dug against Tennessee on Sunday, the Lady Bulldogs are in an early hole in the SEC standings, but the overall feeling is that there’s still plenty of time to get back on the right foot.
“It is what it is – everybody’s something, but it’s only two games,” Landers said. “It doesn’t feel good and you don’t like it. But it’s a long time until the first of March.”
“It’s not really discouraging,” added Griffin. “It should motivate us to get better and try to win the rest of them.”
The Lady Bulldogs will return to the floor at 8 p.m. Thursday at Missouri (12-3, 1-1 in the SEC).
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And your point is ?
 
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armchair said:
Dear Coach:

That was a nice win against Georgia. Good defensive intensity through the first 30 minutes and what an amazing performance at the free-throw line. Let's hope the team continues to shoot FT's so well.

However, I was disturbed to see an all-too-familiar negative stat in the box score--a bad stat that has been the Vols Achilles heel for at least a DECADE: 9 assists and 20 turnovers. Year after year, game after game, UT has a BAD assist to turnover ratio! What does it mean? It means you have a BAD PASSING TEAM--and this has been the case for YEARS. This is why UT's offensive play has been consistently SLOPPY, consistently INEFFICIENT, for years--and why UT has shot the ball poorly in many, many games. This is why you lose to good teams. You need to teach your players how to move the ball more effectively and how to make better passes that lead to better shots.

You want to get the ball into the low post--and yet your players on the wings don't recognize when, say, Russell has established ideal position and needs to get the ball. They typically wait too long--and then either pass it when she is no longer open or they try to make an overhead pass that a defender intercepts instead of the more FUNDAMENTALLY SOUND bounce pass. You must work on this--or if you do, work on it more. It does you no good to have a low post player if your guards and wings do not know when and how best to pass her the ball!

Look at Simmons yesterday: 0 assists, 4 turnovers! How does a senior guard with her quickness and skills have a stat line like that? How is that a senior guard who has been in your system for four years is such a bad passer in half-court sets? Simmons could be breaking down defenses and creating good shots for other players, but she doesn't because she's a weak passer. I wish it weren't true--but it is: She's got more career turnovers than assists. This, again, is why you do not fare well against good teams. Too many bad passes, too many turnovers, too much inefficiency.

What is the one big difference between UConn and UT over the last 10+ years? It is that UConn passes the ball much better than UT. I have been watching UT for 20 years--and for the last 10 I have thought that, any day now, the coaches will recognize that they must improve the team's passing and reduce the sloppiness and turnovers--but it doesn't happen. This is something you must correct or you will never get UT back to the top. I look forward to the day when I see the stats, and one of them is: 15 assists, 8 turnovers. Good luck.
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I agree except with the Simmons part. I still think she would be what we thought she would be if she had got the top notch coaching she thought she was going to get when she came to UT.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
For the season 257 assists and 250 turnovers. Uconn 314 assists and 173 turnovers. 1.81 for UConn and 1.03 for Tennessee. 11.5 turnovers a game for them and 17.9 for us. That equals out to 6.4 possessions per game that we just give away. They get 43.2 rebounds per game and shoot .747 from the foul line. They hit 50 percent from the field overall and 35 percent from the 3pt line. Tennessee hits 45.6 percent from the field overall and 35 percent from the three point line. We average 50.8 rebounds per game. They take 21 threes a game we take 15. We get to the line 25 times a game and hit 72 percent. They only get there 18 times hit 75 percent.

Based only on stats they would outscore us from the three point line by 9 points. We would win the free throw line by 4 points. They would win from the field 46 points to 42 points. They would also gain about 5 extra possessions on us considering that they average five more steals per game and 6 less turnovers. The steals are negated by us getting 7 more rebounds. It still would mean plus six points for them based on making half their shots off of our turnovers.

The final score based only on stats: UConn 87 Tennessee 72.
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I guess your point is it's a good thing Tennessee will not be playing uconn this year.

Your stats are based on games so far. Going forward the comparison will probably be worse. Uconn was missing two key players for 8 games, one being the best 3pt shooter in Div. 1. They also played more ranked opponents early while short-handed.

Another factor is uconn doesn't foul much. Uconn opponents only take 8.5 foul shots per game Tenn opponents shoot 20.
 
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OP spot on! Some people watch the game and some people know how to watch the game. Good teams are going to give us trouble all year long. By the way...Georgia is not a very good team.
 
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I totally agree with the original poster. It's a shame that we can't make simple passes. I don't think it would be on the coach though. We all must remember this is a player's game! I can teach you all day how to pass, but once you're out there and you decide to throw a dumb pass then that's on that individual but believe me that person would get benched and would hear a earful
 
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Convoluted said:
I guess your point is it's a good thing Tennessee will not be playing uconn this year.

Your stats are based on games so far. Going forward the comparison will probably be worse. Uconn was missing two key players for 8 games, one being the best 3pt shooter in Div. 1. They also played more ranked opponents early while short-handed.

Another factor is uconn doesn't foul much. Uconn opponents only take 8.5 foul shots per game Tenn opponents shoot 20.
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Plus UConn, due to their conference, plays a far weaker schedule than Tennessee does so yes the stats would probably forecast a larger margin. However I think we could manage the 15 points at home I don't think we'd be lazy in that game. On the road it would be over twenty. One thing I've noticed about UConn against top competition is that they win the three point line large. That is way the Duke score looked so bad they outscored them from three 33 to 9 and that was about the difference in the game.
 
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Thanks for those team stats, VolFan--very well done. We have been a sloppy, poor passing team for years and it started catching to UT as the game got more competitive, with better coaches around the country. Our assist to turnover ratio has been bad for a LONG time.

I remember watching UConn against UT way back when Geno first game on the scene--had to have been 15 years ago. UT had better players then and won the game, but what immediately struck me about the huskies was their ball movement and passing. They did a better job of moving and passing the ball than the Vols--and that hasn't changed. We just have never been a good passing team, which is one reason why our offense under PS was always clunky unless we had a superstar or two who could score on their own. In fact, you don't need superstars to have a good/very good offense if you've got five good (but perhaps not great) players on the floor who are smart and move well and make good decisions--much like Notre Dame is coached, which schooled us last year with their pick and passing game. If you can't run a good offense with five highly ranked recruits on the floor, they you've got coaching issues. Turnovers and bad shots don't kill you when you play middling teams--your talent can overcome your weaknesses--but they are a problem when playing another good team.

In any case, it has killed me to see UConn eclipse our program, due partly to PS's issues. If we want to get back to the top, we've got to get better coaching--period. What is the point of recruiting top talent if you can't turn it into a better, smarter players. I see some good signs from this staff--Simmons isn't just firing shots willy nilly and Massengale is becoming an outstanding player, but more is needed.
 
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It's not just "passing" ineptly. It's spacing and understanding the angles of the game...
 
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nice stats Volfan thanks for the work,and your right armchair,it makes me mad watching all the bad passing,if they could get a handle on it,they will be a hard team to beat and a good point putbacks,that would be a tremendous help in the turn over margins
 
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I would tell Miss Jones and Miss Simmons to never pass the ball except to a guard on the outside of the court.
 
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armchair said:
Thanks for those team stats, VolFan--very well done. We have been a sloppy, poor passing team for years and it started catching to UT as the game got more competitive, with better coaches around the country. Our assist to turnover ratio has been bad for a LONG time.

I remember watching UConn against UT way back when Geno first game on the scene--had to have been 15 years ago. UT had better players then and won the game, but what immediately struck me about the huskies was their ball movement and passing. They did a better job of moving and passing the ball than the Vols--and that hasn't changed. We just have never been a good passing team, which is one reason why our offense under PS was always clunky unless we had a superstar or two who could score on their own. In fact, you don't need superstars to have a good/very good offense if you've got five good (but perhaps not great) players on the floor who are smart and move well and make good decisions--much like Notre Dame is coached, which schooled us last year with their pick and passing game. If you can't run a good offense with five highly ranked recruits on the floor, they you've got coaching issues. Turnovers and bad shots don't kill you when you play middling teams--your talent can overcome your weaknesses--but they are a problem when playing another good team.

In any case, it has killed me to see UConn eclipse our program, due partly to PS's issues. If we want to get back to the top, we've got to get better coaching--period. What is the point of recruiting top talent if you can't turn it into a better, smarter players. I see some good signs from this staff--Simmons isn't just firing shots willy nilly and Massengale is becoming an outstanding player, but more is needed.
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We have some good passers Massengale, Carter, and even Russell. The players we don't want passing ever are Jones, Burdick, and Simmons.
 
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The bottom line with Simmons is that she should be a better all-around player than she is now, as a senior and given her excellent skills. Mind you, I don't blame her for the fact that she isn't, I blame the coaches. In the half-court game, she should be driving and dishing some, creating easy basket opportunities for teammates, in addition to shooting. Play smarter. The other night Warlick seemed to wave off some of the issues with her, calling Simmons a "scorer." That's not quite right as Simmons' shooting percentage isn't good enough to be a genuine "scorer." If it it were, then there wouldn't be this thread. She hasn't been managed smartly. I only raise these issues because I think UT could be a serious contender if Russell develops (quickly) and if Simmons was more of an asset in the half-court game. The other night Warlick acknowledged that UT was streaky and was "underachieving." That's precisely my point--and that's the last I'll say about this (for at least two weeks--hold me to it!).
 
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