Miami vs Notre dame...its back!

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CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- Miami and Notre Dame have agreed to renew a football rivalry that during the 1980s helped define each program and decide several national championships.

The Hurricanes and Fighting Irish will play Oct. 6, 2012, at Soldier Field in Chicago and then play a home-and-home starting in 2016 at South Bend, Ind. They play in Miami the next season.

The rivalry dates to the 1950s and Notre Dame leads the series 15-7-1.


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But it was during the 1980s, when Miami became a national power, that the rivalry got interesting.

In 1985, Miami embarrassed Notre Dame 58-7 in Gerry Faust's last game as coach of the Fighting Irish.

Faust was replaced by Lou Holtz. Soon after Notre Dame was a national title contender again and the Miami-Notre Dame game was routinely one of the biggest of the season.

Miami won three national championships in the 1980s and beat Notre Dame during the regular season each time. Notre Dame beat Miami in 1988, when the Irish won their last national title, and in 1990.

The tense and at times nasty series was dubbed Catholics vs. Convicts by some Notre Dame supporters.

The 1988 game was marked by a pregame shoving match and the next season the teams nearly squared off at midfield before the coin toss.

After the 29-20 victory by the Irish in 1990 -- which knocked Miami out of the national title hunt and helped Notre Dame go the Orange Bowl with a chance to win another championship -- the series was stopped.



lets hope miami whoops notre lame :hi:
 
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I hope Notre Dame loses every game against Miami to further disprove the myth that they are still elite. Put them in a conference for pete's sake
 
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"...helped define each program"

haha. It helped define Miami, sure. But saying that ND playing Miami helped to define ND, that's really shortsighted.
 
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Notre Dame might have bit off more than they can chew. Miami seems to be poised to wake up.
 
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IPorange said:
Notre Dame might have bit off more than they can chew. Miami seems to be poised to wake up.
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I'm not so sure, I dislike ND as much as anybody, but don't discount what Kelly can do at ND. He's been a winner every place he's been and now he's going to get the top level talent that ND can bring in.

I hope that Miami beats them, but given the fact Kelly will have two years to turn that program around, it should make for a very good game.
 
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lylsmorr said:
I hope Notre Dame loses every game against Miami to further disprove the myth that they are still elite. Put them in a conference for pete's sake
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Doesn't matter. They could lose every game for five seasons and they'd still be on espns college football leads.
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utkell65 said:
I'm not so sure, I dislike ND as much as anybody, but don't discount what Kelly can do at ND. He's been a winner every place he's been and now he's going to get the top level talent that ND can bring in.

I hope that Miami beats them, but given the fact Kelly will have two years to turn that program around, it should make for a very good game.
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Thats been the case with most ND coaches.
 
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knucklehead_vol said:
Thats been the case with most ND coaches.
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Not quite sure if you're trying to compare Brian Kelly to some of ND's other more recent coaches, but if you are, let's look at some numbers.

Post Lou Holtz:

Bob Davies- Before ND, No HC experience. At ND 35-25, not very good. He was never well liked while at ND and managed to get them put on probabtion. He can partially thank Tennessee for losing his job in 2001.

Tryone Willingham- Before ND 44-36-1 @ Standford, not very good. At ND 21-15, ND got what they paid for.

Charlie Weis- Before ND, No HC experience. At ND 35-27, not very good.

Brian Kelly- Before ND 171-57-2 and only one losing season in 18yrs as a HC. At ND ?, who knows, but I'd be willing to bet he does a helluva lot better than the other three.

He took a Cincinnati team that had only one 10 win season before he got there and that was in 1949. In his three full years there, they never won less than 10 games. Kelly is the coach I wanted before we hired Kiffin. He may have left like Kiffin did after last year when ND came calling, but then again he may not have.
 
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Its a no lose situation for them. Regardless of the outcome.

Miami on the other hand.......
 
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I hope the U beats ND like a red headed stepchild everytime.
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IPorange said:
Notre Dame might have bit off more than they can chew. Miami seems to be poised to wake up.
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Notre Dame hasn't been Notre Dame in how long? It's time they joined the Big Ten and realize they can't recruit to play year in year out against the super schedule they tend to have
 
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