Militarizing the Border

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volinbham

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Saw an interview with the AZ AG and he was discussing how coyotes and drug runners use armored vehicles, scouts on both sides of the border with secure communications to determine where our defenses are (Border Patrol) and it really hit home.

Another country's citizens are making the equivalent of military free movements across the border.

Why aren't we responding in kind? Other than the fact that AZ doesn't share a border with Mexico...:)

I doubted the need until recently but now see no option. The AZ AG wants to arrest the coyote leaders and drug lords but in reality they are:

1) in another country and
2) would be replaced

I don't see an option other than military control of the border - what say you?
 
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#6
Put some Abrams tanks on the border and some attack choppers on standby. That should do it. If its criminals blow them up if its non criminals shoot near them and tell them to go back home.
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#7
Well other than Arizona not being on the Mexican border, how the heck are we going to catch guys that use corridors of federal land that our border patrol officers are forbidden to enter for environmental reasons??


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volinbham said:
Saw an interview with the AZ AG and he was discussing how coyotes and drug runners use armored vehicles, scouts on both sides of the border with secure communications to determine where our defenses are (Border Patrol) and it really hit home.

Another country's citizens are making the equivalent of military free movements across the border.

Why aren't we responding in kind? Other than the fact that AZ doesn't share a border with Mexico...:)

I doubted the need until recently but now see no option. The AZ AG wants to arrest the coyote leaders and drug lords but in reality they are:

1) in another country and
2) would be replaced

I don't see an option other than military control of the border - what say you?
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I've been saying for some time that our border with Mexico has been a much bigger problem than our previous and current administration wants us to believe. Only recently has the true scope of what we are dealing with come to light for the majority of Americans.

I have heard plenty of stories from a family member working on the border and finally seem to be hearing much of the same from our media. What we are dealing with is not average drug runners or mob style criminals but well trained (US military helped train them) and well armed paramilitary groups paid for by the cartels. Many of these men are even active duty Mexican military moonlighting for the cartels. They often use whatever equipment and arms are issued them by Mexico.

It's obvious Mexico is both unable and most likely unwilling to do what must be done to clean up their ranks. We need to send a clear message, to both the cartels and Mexican government, that our lands will not remain under threat, that we will do whatever needs to be done to secure our borders, even if that means striking those that threaten our lands and people in Mexico.
 
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A Pershing style punitive expedition, tell the Mexican "government" that if they can't keep their own yard free of trash, that we will have no qualms doing it for them.
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Utilize the millions of anti-personnel mines we have in storage doing nothing. Plant em about 300 yards deep from the west coast to Brownsville and then let border guards and a minimum compliment of military maintain. Put signs up in both tounges warning...screw a wall. If an uneducated super poor can enter so can a terrorist with a nuke in a breifcase its time to take this seriously and quit kissin ass.
 
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it will eventually happen, but I don't think it's going to happen until we have another terrorist attack ... we have fallen asleep (or, better, gone mad) as a nation
 
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hohenfelsvol said:
Don't forget about the ability to earn at least minimum wage.
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The US Census has released its employment documents
and they are an eye-full.

US Census Form D-262 of 23 June
2009 indicates who is eligible for employment as a census
taker.

To be eligible for the job, non-citizens are eligible
if they present One Each from Lists A, or B, plus one from C.

This pays two to three or more times minimum wage and
you can be hired, trained, fired and rehired and it counts
each time on the new job total that obama and company
puts out to show there are lots of new jobs, over 400,000
in May, 2010.

Not only that my best Vol buddy just came back from Gulf
Shores and he said a 50 year old semi-retired beachcomer
friend of his down there that was making $20 an hour to
shovel up oil from the beach and had a 22 year old
supervisor who was making $30 an hour.

You don't have to produce an ID to get a job.

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anyone hear Obama at American U? Apparently our borders are too vast, and we should just throw in the towel
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
anyone hear Obama at American U? Apparently our borders are too vast, and we should just throw in the towel
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I haven't listened to the speech, so I'm not exactly sure what he's saying. However, I get the feeling his idea of immigration reform is ignoring the problem and naturalizing as many democratic voters as possible.
 
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It's funny how history repeats itself. Bush tried the same approach and the electorate sent a very clear message: Secure the borders first, then we'll figure out what to do with the ones that are here. This comprehensive reform stuff is a play to his base and an attempt to change the subject, so to speak.
 
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I don't think obama cares ... he'll prolly issue an executive order one friday evening around midnight ....
 
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the speech was drivel. basically a series of strawmen arguments and Republican bashing -- then in typical Obama fashion blaming people for being political.

In the heighth of irony, he lamented how some will try to score political points rather than solve the problem and in the next breadth slammed Republicans.

For the 1000th time - does anyone buy the BS this guy is selling anymore?
 
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#24
I doubt he's going to be able to pull anything off as far as reform goes. Hopefully, he'll also lose more seats this November.
 
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