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milohimself

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Alright, I noticed some interesting responses in my other thread about which Gibson to pick up. Seems some of you are into guitars. Good tradition to carry along there in Tennessee, it being somewhat of a string mecca. Well, I know a few tricks of the trade, whether it be repair, sales, guitars, playing, etc. If you got any questions just ask me.
 
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Hey Milo,

Glad you brought this up. I have been playing guitar for a long time, still not any good, but I still play. I used to do amp repair before the regular job got crazy. I can answer any amp repair questions that might come up among the VolNation.

I that your Marshall in your avatar or di you just grap the photo somewhere?

ClemsonVol

 
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:lol: Please tell me you've seen Spinal Tap. It's probably the most infamous amp in history, the amp that goes to 11.

I have an '88 Fender Super 60 head with two Groove Tubes 6L6-S power tubes and ACC83S preamp tubes. I got a custom 2x12 cab in a wide 1x12 box, so the speakers are loaded in diagonally. Good ol' Celestion V30's.
 
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(ClemsonVol @ Jun 24 said:
Is that your Marshall in your avatar?

:lolabove: That's good stuff right there.

Milo, if you have the 11 amp, you best bring it when you come visit this fall.
 
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On a serious note, Milo, how much experience do you have with loops? I've gotten pretty decent with my Boss station, but I'm trying to figure out a way to loop vocals with the same piece. I tried sending a bus from the mixer, but no biscuits. Right now, I have it set up as gitfiddle - Boss - mixer - bus to effects. I don't want vocals to go through the guitar effects, so I have to keep the signals discrete.

I may have to resort to Howie's setup using two separate loop-stations.
 
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(milohimself @ Jun 24 said:
:lol: Please tell me you've seen Spinal Tap. It's probably the most infamous amp in history, the amp that goes to 11.

Seen it, of course I have seen it. I have the special bonus features DVD that came out last year. :biggrin2:

I personally gravitate toward Fenders more than Marshalls. Taht is of course a matter of taste. May favorite setup would be a 64-66 Princeton Reverb for cleans, A/B'd with a JTM 45 for dirty work.

ClemsonVol



 
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Hey Milo, nice to see another guitar/vol freak. Here are a couple I've built recently:
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well well another guitar thread. I know almost everything there is about guitars. I know Im in love with my gibson les paul classic
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and my 1977 Marshall JMP 2x12 combo.
 
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(kiddiedoc @ Jun 24 said:
On a serious note, Milo, how much experience do you have with loops? I've gotten pretty decent with my Boss station, but I'm trying to figure out a way to loop vocals with the same piece. I tried sending a bus from the mixer, but no biscuits. Right now, I have it set up as gitfiddle - Boss - mixer - bus to effects. I don't want vocals to go through the guitar effects, so I have to keep the signals discrete.

I may have to resort to Howie's setup using two separate loop-stations.
Unfortunately that's the case. I'm not aware of any loop stations with duley in-outs.

That first axe is sweet, cibai. Got a lot of things going on. Ibanez body, Gibson construction style (the green tuning pegs are definite plus). How does that P90-HB set up sound? Seems pretty interesting there.
 
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By the way, KD, I'm looking at loop stations myself. I've had some experience with the Line 6 DL4 delay modeler. It's got a bunch of different kinds, analog, digital, warp delay, tube echo, spring, etc. and a 15 second (I think) delay loop. I don't know how many you can do at a time, but I've had a great experience with it. And I'm friends with a few guys, one a primary recording tech for Rise Records and Hopeless Records, and another who does recording and PA work all over Portland. Both of them swear by the DL4.
 
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A lot of people use the older DL4. However, if you have your effects already in place, the Boss unit is much more advanced. The sampling time is something over 10 minutes, I believe, and with the addition of a foot selector, you can flip between 2 loops.

I use a TC G-major and minor setup for effects and have been really pleased with the Boss. TC just came out with a new "G-Force" unit, which is supposed to rock your socks off (as it should for a $1.5K price tag).
 
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I have a tough time shelling out that much for an effects unit. I've just got a Line 6 PODxt right now. It's pretty good. Amp models are okay but I usually just bypass, and use the effects models which are amazing.

If you really like delay and loop effects, chec this band out:

Minus The Bear - http://www.myspace.com/minusthebear
 
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Milo, the p-90 bucker combo works great. I love p-90 in the neck (not so big on them in the bridge), and like buckers much better in the bridge (love buckers in the neck too, but I was going for versatility, as I wanted a guitar that could get the best of both worlds). Ive been building LPs, and wanted to try something different that I could put my own stamp on, yet kept the things I love about LPs and teles. The mahogany is only 1" and the maple cap is 1/2" at the thickest point. The body is made of old shelves.
 
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I feel like I just walked into a Martian vocabulary class.

But I was wondering, what kind of guitar shall I ask for if I ever wanted to look at one? And if I wanted to play it seriously, where do I learn? Who can teach me?
 
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(Jasongivm6 @ Jun 25 said:
I feel like I just walked into a Martian vocabulary class.

But I was wondering, what kind of guitar shall I ask for if I ever wanted to look at one? And if I wanted to play it seriously, where do I learn? Who can teach me?
Depends. You gotta give me some price ranges you're looking for with a starting guitar. If you wanna play one in a shop, you can usually ask to just mess around with guitars up to around $800-1,000. Anything more expensive, you will probably have to express serious interest in buying that day. As far as lessons go, you can almost always get them at local guitar stores. Chains don't offer them, so rule out Guitar Center and Sam Ash. Just look up a local spot in the phone book and head over, see what they offer. I think I paid $80 a month for four 45 minute lessons a week a few years ago. That's medium/high for lessons. But, as with all things related to musicial instruments, you get what you pay for. There is rarely a real bargain.
 
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(milohimself @ Jun 25 said:
I think I paid $80 a month for four 45 minute lessons a week a few years ago.

Milo, you do mean $80/month for ONE 45 minute lesson a week, don'tcha? Otherwise, you got a steal. I'd say $20/lesson is about average (although I haven't paid for musical instruction in years).

As to the "new guitar" question: first, what kind of music are you interested in playing? Obviously, acoustics are not meant to be distorted and chugged along at Dimebag speed. Also, you should find an instructor who enjoys or is proficient in that type. Example: if you want to learn Classical style, don't go pay a hair-band wannabe to teach you obscure metal scales by using tablature (a simplistic way to transcribe guitar music using 6 lines - representing strings - and numbers - representing the fret to play. Don't get me wrong, tab is great. . . .but not if you want to read music.

Honestly, unless you are dead-set on solo/hard-rock or heavy style, I'd consider picking up an acoustic or acoustic electric first. It's much cheaper to get a full rich sound - you don't need an amp or effects, the guitar does the hard work. Also, once you learn on an acoustic, electrics are oh-so-much easier to play. Plus, you can take it to the lake or the park or over to a friend's place to play without lugging other stuff around. You ought to be able to find a decent-sounding guitar to start with for less than $500, if you demand a new one. If you don't mind a consignment, you will certainly be able to spend much less.

One more thing: if you have a good friend who plays, I'd think about asking him or her to start you out with some simple chords and basics. That stuff can be taught by anybody who's decent and you will save some cash by not wasting that on an "over-qualified" teacher.
 
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Actually, those metal guys can also be quite proficient in shred, which has a very strong base in classical guitar.

I picked up a Boss Loop Station today. Haven't used it yet.
 
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Now my setup looks like...

Samick RL3 -> Line 6 PODxt Live -> Boss RC20XL -> modded Fender Super 60 -> 2x12 Celestion V30's

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Let me know what you think. There's a little bit of a learning curve, for sure, especially with timing. Did you get the footswitch, too? I just recently learned about the expanded (2 loop) capability using one, so for $50, it's a must-have.
 
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I'll give it a look. I'm already used to doing timing stuff with my delay pedal on the PODxt Live. I mess around with the tempo and stuff but still have to keep in time. And I play a lot of drums, too.
 
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I do have one question, though, KD and I'm too lazy to make it downstairs. :p Some good shows are on.

How do I record a loop, but bypass the initial delay time? Just like, step on the record pedal and record immediately.
 

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