Montana vs ESPN

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Thought I'd drop by, say hi, and post this crazy topic. I know from my visits here that many of you feel there is a ESPN bias towards the Vols, and even no "love" in many cases.

If you recall during our game with the Vols in the beginning of the season, that game was not made available to many in Montana. We simply don't have a cable provide (Optimum) who telecasts, and has the IP access via ESPN3 to show games in Montana. Both the Grizzlies (#4 seed), and the Montana State Bobcats (who as #1 were thrashed at home by us 36-10 during last week regular season), will not be seen in the state of Montana for their early round games.

We are playing the winner of Tennessee Tech/Central Arkansas. MSU is playing New Hampshire. So this has caused a big uproar. Big enough that our congressional team is now involved.

Politicians & Fans Lobbying ESPN

There are no promises of a broadcast for the Montana Grizzlies' Dec. 3 FCS playoff game against either Tennessee Tech or Central Arkansas, and in fact it's not at all likely.

But a few guys are working on it.

Montana senators Max Baucus and Jon Tester, as well as Rep. Denny Rehberg, have expressed displeasure with ESPN's decision not to allow local broadcasts of either the Grizzlies' game or Montana State's Dec. 3 game against New Hampshire.

Instead, the cable giant has offered it only on internet-based ESPN3, which leaves a majority of Montanans in the dark.

Tester and Rehberg went so far as to draft letters to George Bodenheimer, president of ESPN/ABC Sports. Tester noted that a petition drive on Facebook had already begun.

"Within hours after hearing your decision, Montanans put their friendly rivalries aside to cheer for a common goal: to encourage ESPN to reconsider," the letter reads in part.

"Please consider working with Montana broadcast stations or cable providers to make TV feeds of these FCS playoff games reasonably available to Montana fans. Airing these games in Montana will allow ESPN to be part of a time-honored pastime in the Treasure State."

Jim O'Day, athletic director for the University of Montana, is on the side of the fans but feels there is little recourse.

"Unless somebody can get to ESPN and convince them to put it out on another format, I doubt very much it will be on TV anywhere," he said.

Baucus, Tester and Rehberg are trying.

"I'm not writing to challenge the legal right ESPN has paid to control the broadcast rights for these games," wrote Rehberg. "On the contrary, I'm hoping that you will recognize the simple fact that you stand to gain more from any arrangement that allows these games to be broadcast on local stations."

Baucus sent out a release earlier Tuesday.

"In the spirit of teamwork and good sportsmanship, I'm hoping ESPN will rethink its decision," Baucus said. "It's time for a timeout so we can take a look at this game plan and make sure it works for Montanans."

O'Day said that ESPN is trying to grow its internet-based channel, and this is one way of doing that. But it seems to be leaving more Montanans out than any other state with a Football Championship Subdivision playoff team.

"They say (ESPN3) goes into 70 million households," O'Day said. "It's just not many of them are in Montana. The NCAA has asked ESPN how many people in Montana get ESPN3, but we haven't got that number back yet."

It can't be many: The lone Internet service provider in Montana to offer ESPN3 is 3 Rivers Communications, though the channel is offered on all college campuses and military bases.

One fan emailed the Missoulian to say ESPN3 was offered through Optimum in Butte, but the two main local ISPs for Missoula, Optimum/Bresnan and CenturyLink, do not support ESPN3.

O'Day noted that ESPN's $550 million TV contract - the network bought the rights to broadcast every NCAA championship except for men's basketball - went into effect this fall. He figures such a far-reaching contract will be hard to tweak.

"It doesn't look very good right now," he said.

The flurry of awards and the victory over Montana State for the Big Sky Conference's automatic berth into the playoffs feel pretty good for Griz linebacker Caleb McSurdy, but he has other things on his mind.

"We enjoyed (the win) but things move so fast now with the playoffs," said McSurdy, who was named the Big Sky's defensive MVP Tuesday. "You've got to put that stuff aside. It's not going to mean a lot to me as a senior, or the senior class, if we lose in the (second) round of the playoffs.

"I'm kind of done with the celebration."

UM's Jon Opperud, named first-team all-Big Sky at offensive tackle, had similar thoughts.

"I had no idea that it'd even been out," Opperud said of the honor team. "I was all, ‘Eye on the prize,' really. I wasn't too focused on awards. ... If we do win a national championship, that would be the ultimate goal."

QUICK KICKS: Mike Breske has been defensive coordinator for the Montana Grizzlies for five seasons and in four of those years, he's coached the Big Sky's defensive MVP: Andy Petek (2000), Vince Huntsberger (2001) and Trey Young (2002) and McSurdy. ... UM's kickoff on Dec. 3 will be 12:05 p.m., while the Bobcats' game with New Hampshire kicks off at 1 p.m. MST. ... Montana and MSU flip-flopped in the final Gridiron Power Index released by collegesportingnews.com. The Griz are now No. 5 and the Cats are No. 8. ... Northern Iowa is the top-ranked FCS team in the Sagarin ratings, followed by North Dakota State, Sam Houston State, Montana and MSU.


Sad to see that the season has been a bit of a disappointment for you so far. Hopefully following the win against Vandy, you can know beat Kentucky. I saw injuries have been pretty bad for you all season. I do believe you are set for next year though, and wish you well.
 
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One fan emailed the Missoulian to say ESPN3 was offered through Optimum in Butte, but the two main local ISPs for Missoula, Optimum/Bresnan and CenturyLink, do not support ESPN3.

You need to go after your ISP providers. ESPN is putting it out there but if your local ISP's are not willing to ante up it's all on them. In reality - 10 years ago if you wanted to see a game, you had to be there ( if it wasn't covered locally). Bottom line is that we have become a tad bit spoiled with network, cable and internet streaming of games. It all comes at a price.
 
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Thanks for the well wishes for next year!

Lived in Montana for 10 years, so I understand first hand your frustrations. Hope this all gets all sorted out in the end. Montana has some great football fans, you all deserve more than dealing with ESPN's monopolistic ways! Great point in the article asking why ESPN wouldn't allow local coverage in this case if they'ye not going to cover it. This subject applies to many industries nationwide. Outta control....
 
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I know how you feel. I can't get ESPN3 here in Tennessee either. I mostly blame my stupid internet company, though.

I've been following Montana's schedule all season though and the win against Montana St. was very impressive. GJ
 
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Wait, so, Ted, you are saying there should be more technology available in Montana? You need to send them a letter. . .





jk, hope you get this fixed, would hate for you to miss this for stupid reasons. Glad to see the Grizz did well over the rest of the season, wish you success in the play offs.
 
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You need to go after your ISP providers. ESPN is putting it out there but if your local ISP's are not willing to ante up it's all on them. In reality - 10 years ago if you wanted to see a game, you had to be there ( if it wasn't covered locally). Bottom line is that we have become a tad bit spoiled with network, cable and internet streaming of games. It all comes at a price.

ESPN also demands money from the providers for their subscribers to access the service. That makes bills go up and everyone ends up paying for a service that most internet subscribers don't even know that they have. ESPN is crooked in this deal.
 
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ESPN also demands money from the providers for their subscribers to access the service. That makes bills go up and everyone ends up paying for a service that most internet subscribers don't even know that they have. ESPN is crooked in this deal.

How is ESPN crooked? Should they offer their services for free? This is on the ISP providers. They can A) purchase ESPN3 streaming rights. B) not purchase the rights. If the ISP purchases the rights, it's common practice to pass the cost along on down to the consumer. Everybody likes to knock on ESPN but in reality they do a damn good job.
 
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The fight continues, its getting brutal. Both US Senators, our Congressman and Board of Regents have all weighed in. Now lawsuits, and antitrusts being discussed. Will ESPN buckle? lol

If you really hate ESPN then join us in our battle against the dog that is the self proclaimed WORLD leader in sports. They cant even get it right in rural America!!!

ESPN 'discussing' airing Griz, Cat games



"Me thinks that before the week ends, we will have been heard by all those powers that be. ... You just don't push a Bobcat and a Grizzly into a corner without someone getting hurt ... and it ain't gonna be the wild critters."

- Edd Willey, in a Facebook post

As Grizzly and Bobcat football fans took their fight with ESPN to every corner they could think of - and in every method they could dream up - there was a sign Monday that the network might be reconsidering its stance against local TV broadcasts of Montana and Montana State's FCS playoff games Saturday.

One of the fans, Kristal Glass of Las Vegas, said she had just received an email from the president of Max Media of Montana, which owns stations that typically carry Montana State games during the regular season.

In it, Linda Gray informed Glass that Gray's contact at ESPN told her Monday, "ESPN is discussing the clearance on the local stations in Montana ‘at the highest level.' "

ESPN paid $550 million for the broadcast rights to all NCAA championship events except men's basketball. However, it is offering coverage of most early round FCS games only on its Internet streaming service, ESPN3.

Most Montanans do not have access to it because their Internet service providers do not pay ESPN to carry it.

The resulting "blackout," as some fans in Montana have taken to calling it, has provoked a grassroots campaign to get ESPN to allow local stations to carry its feeds of Saturday's playoff games between Montana and Central Arkansas, and Montana State vs. New Hampshire.

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The news that ESPN was discussing the issue was about the only thing Gray didn't post at an events page on Facebook that has galvanized Grizzly and Bobcat supporters.

"People might think it's in the bag, and that's not the case," said Glass, a Ronan native who is now a mortgage loan officer at a small bank in Las Vegas. "We want everyone to still keep fighting."

The Facebook page, called "Petition to have ESPN Lift Blackouts of FCS Playoff Games," was started last Tuesday by Missoula businessman John Sterrett, who sent it out to the approximately 400 people he was friends with on Facebook at the time (he's added several more since creating the page).

In less than a week it has spread to more than 90,000 Facebook users, and was well on the way to passing the 23,000-mark by early Monday evening for the number of people who have "signed" it.

While there has been some argument among them about who the "bad" guy is in this - ESPN, Internet service providers, the NCAA or others - many have posted messages encouraging people to contact everyone from their congressional representatives to the NCAA to ESPN advertisers.

They've also been calling ESPN directly to voice their dissatisfaction.

"I'm sure several thousand have called ESPN already," Sterrett said Monday. "For the most part they don't get a real person - they get a computer line where they're asked to state their concerns. But a few of them got through to somebody live, and they say they were told that ESPN is aware that many Montana fans are not happy."

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They've gone so far as to study the NCAA's policies regarding television rights, and were tickled when they found what they believe is a gaping loophole:

"If Turner/CBS and/or ESPN do not activate their television rights to any round of an NCAA championship, the NCAA may elect to sell these rights for local syndication in exchange for a rights fee."

As far as Glass, Sterrett and many others are concerned, online streaming is not the same as a television broadcast, and therefore ESPN has not activated its television rights.

"The FCC," Sterrett said, "does not regulate Internet feeds as broadcasts."

"I don't know if it holds water legally," said Bob Hermes, general manager of KPAX-TV, which televises most UM regular-season games, "but it may cloud the issue."

The last word he had, Hermes said Monday, was that "ESPN plans on continuing to exercise its exclusive rights to hold the game on ESPN3."

His station has a long and good relationship with ESPN, Hermes said, and would like to carry the game, but does need some lead time to do so.

"More is better," Hermes said. "Every day that goes by makes it harder to accommodate."

Purchasing the rights involves a "substantial amount of money," he said, and KPAX needs time to sell advertising slots for a broadcast.

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Glass, who usually watches UM games at Torrey Pines Pub, a neighborhood bar in Las Vegas which has been dubbed "Grizzlyville," said she has gone so far as to contact a law firm or two about possible legal action.

"Just making inquiries," she said. "I don't have that kind of money, but I'm not opposed to trying to encourage attorneys to take the case pro bono."

Another representative had done likewise, Glass said, and spoken to attorneys in Billings who think ESPN might be violating anti-trust laws by using the games to force Internet service providers to carry ESPN3.

Among her other online activities Monday, Glass posted a doctored photograph at the Facebook site that shows UM mascot Monte on his knees in the end zone - and being pepper-sprayed by the campus policeman who famously pepper-sprayed peaceful protesters at the Occupy UC Davis event recently.

ESPN, the caption facetiously claims, has hired Lt. John Pike to "take care of their Montana problem."

A small coalition of Grizzly and Bobcat fans who found Sterrett's petition have been spending several hours every day taking the fight to ESPN and others. In addition to Glass, they include Ryan Gage, Teresa Michalski, Alexandra Sophia, Edd Willey, Chelleay Treichel and Janet Frederick.

Some of them have also suggested they'll print 25,000 signs that say "Shame on ESPN" and distribute them to fans attending the game at Washington-Grizzly Stadium on Saturday if their efforts to get the games televised locally aren't successful.

Greg Weitekamp, director of broadcasting for the NCAA, did not return a message from the Missoulian Monday for this story.

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