More Gold from George Will

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George F. Will - A recoil against liberalism

I love this quote

The progressive agenda is actually legitimated by the incomprehension and anger it elicits: If the people do not resent and resist what is being done on their behalf, what is being done is not properly ambitious. If it is comprehensible to its intended beneficiaries, it is the work of insufficiently advanced thinkers.
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Likewise this one rings true

"These ideas," Boudreaux says, "are almost exclusively about how other people should live their lives. These are ideas about how one group of people (the politically successful) should engineer everyone else's contracts, social relations, diets, habits, and even moral sentiments." Liberalism's ideas are "about replacing an unimaginably large multitude of diverse and competing ideas . . . with a relatively paltry set of 'Big Ideas' that are politically selected, centrally imposed, and enforced by government, not by the natural give, take and compromise of the everyday interactions of millions of people."
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It also requires the enforcement of moral code, which in the end should be viewed no differently than the establishment of religion.
 
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The second reminds me of Thomas Friedman. That guy is continually disappointed by dumb Americans that can't see why we shouldn't do what the "enlightened dictators" of China are wrt infrastructure.
 
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volinbham said:
The second reminds me of Thomas Friedman. That guy is continually disappointed by dumb Americans that can't see why we shouldn't do what the "enlightened dictators" of China are wrt infrastructure.
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Thomas Friedman is a painful read - almost always.
 
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Lexvol said:
It also requires the enforcement of moral code, which in the end should be viewed no differently than the establishment of religion.
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wait......I thought morals did not come from religion/Bible.....you guys can not have it both ways
 
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Funny, I don't want it both ways. I understand that morality can never be sucessfully legislated. Smoke what you want, kill your unborn, and stick your privates into anything you wish. Keep your hands out of my pie.
 
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Lexvol said:
Funny, I don't want it both ways. I understand that morality can never be sucessfully legislated. Smoke what you want, kill your unborn, and stick your privates into anything you wish. Keep your hands out of my pie.
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The establishment of religion comparison threw me off.....carry on...and by the way, if you are sticking your privates where ever you wish, I hope everyone keeps their hands off
 
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Lexvol said:
Smoke what you want, kill your unborn, and stick your privates into anything you wish. Keep your hands out of my pie.
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Getting the government out of people's private lives. Small government like this sounds great.
 
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I have a lot of respect for George Will and always listen intently when I catch him on tv. He's very intelligent and excellent at taking a step back. There is a lot of truth to the comments from him you posted.

Of course, he has little patience for dimwits like Beck, Limbaugh, Bachman, O'Donnell, etc. You'd never find someone like him at a Tea Party gathering, I suspect.
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lawgator1 said:
I have a lot of respect for George Will and always listen intently when I catch him on tv. He's very intelligent and excellent at taking a step back. There is a lot of truth to the comments from him you posted.

Of course, he has little patience for dimwits like Beck, Limbaugh, Bachman, O'Donnell, etc. You'd never find someone like him at a Tea Party gathering, I suspect.
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nor would you find him belittling TPrs or demonizing them for expressing their believe in smaller govt.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I have a lot of respect for George Will and always listen intently when I catch him on tv. He's very intelligent and excellent at taking a step back. There is a lot of truth to the comments from him you posted.

Of course, he has little patience for dimwits like Beck, Limbaugh, Bachman, O'Donnell, etc. You'd never find someone like him at a Tea Party gathering, I suspect.
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There you go again......thinking for someone else.
 
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volinbham said:
nor would you find him belittling TPrs or demonizing them for expressing their believe in smaller govt.
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Nor would you find him recasting someone's argument in a false manner so as to attack the falsehood, rather than the actual argument.

droski said:
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I said, "I suspect."

I don't have a link to photos of every single tea party and all of the people who were there, so can't prove it. But I imagine that if someone had spotted him at one, or if he endorsed them, we'd have heard about it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I have a lot of respect for George Will and always listen intently when I catch him on tv. He's very intelligent and excellent at taking a step back. There is a lot of truth to the comments from him you posted.

Of course, he has little patience for dimwits like Beck, Limbaugh, Bachman, O'Donnell, etc. You'd never find someone like him at a Tea Party gathering, I suspect.
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That is a statement of fact, not an opinion. Nice try counselor.
 
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The quotes by George Will are hilarious given he subscribes completely and abjectly to the One Big Idea of the last 40 years: neoliberalism.

In its name Will has justified every outrage, every injustice, every competing idea, every color of nonconformity. The quotes are hilarious coming from him.

Stick to baseball, Will.
 
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droski said:
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Will is clearly conservative but he's not afraid to call people out, even conservatives, when he disagrees. He was, for example, a frequent critic of Bush's Iraq war policies as well as some judicial nominations.

As far as a quote goes, I know of one about Palin. She fits into the same populist conservative crowd as the others mentioned in LG's post. Will on the other hand is an establishment-elite conservative (Oxford & Princeton degrees) and those two crowds frequently clash despite both bearing the conservative mantle.

George F. Will: For McCain, what if this is as good as it gets? | StarTribune.com

The key part is... "This, McCain and his female Sancho Panza say..."

For those who don't know, Sancho Panza is the proudly illiterate servant of Don Quixote.
 
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checkerboard03 said:
Will is clearly conservative but he's not afraid to call people out, even conservatives, when he disagrees. He was, for example, a frequent critic of Bush's Iraq war policies as well as some judicial nominations.

As far as a quote goes, I know of one about Palin. She fits into the same populist conservative crowd as the others mentioned in LG's post. Will on the other hand is an establishment-elite conservative (Oxford & Princeton degrees) and those two crowds frequently clash despite both bearing the conservative mantle.

George F. Will: For McCain, what if this is as good as it gets? | StarTribune.com

The key part is... "This, McCain and his female Sancho Panza say..."

For those who don't know, Sancho Panza is the proudly illiterate servant of Don Quixote.
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That's why I like the guy. He's smart, so he doesn't try to boil everything down to ridiculously oversimplified bite sized nuggets. And, he's not so polluted by party politics that he molds his argument simply so as to elect Republicans.

As I say, I suspect that he personally loathes and is thoroughly embarrassed by a number of them, particularly the new right, and bemoans the fact that they have hijacked the party whose platform he used to be able to support.
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