Most overrated recruiting class - Tennessee 2005

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#6
It is amazing to me how we can not win a S.E.C. title yet send so many players to the N.F.L. That simply shows me that our past teams were flat out out coached from start to finish by the Meyers, Sabans, Miles, and Richts of the S.E.C.

I think this photo says it all:

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#8
In 2000, SuperPrep printed the names of 56 Div. I recruits who decided to “decommit” after originally verballing to another school. That’s less than 10% of the recruits covered by SuperPrep that year. By 2005, that number jumped to 93 “decommitments” – nearly doubling what it had been five years prior. In 2009, 144 players were considered decommitments, and this year that record is going to be shattered once again. The worthlessness of the so-called commitment is most certainly a growing trend. Speaking of growing trends…well, maybe it’s finally time for a complete makeover. The current signing-day arrangement should be totally changed, so prospects and schools don’t need to worry about commitments, which were never more than an informal way of keeping track. Just let the kids sign whenever they want after October 1 of their senior year. No muss, no fuss. Just signatures authorized by parents and actual binding commitments.
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Yes, yes.
 
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VolATLien said:
Yes, yes.
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This is why patience in recruiting should be a virtue....sure it is nice to have SOME committs at this time but once the season starts and a team gets hot....then puts some pressure on a kid to decommitt then look what happens.

We live in a NOW society that lives by "What have you done for me lately and whatcha gonna do for me now" mind set. Ya'll hating on this staff need to just chill out and let them do their thing.
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
This is why patience in recruiting should be a virtue....sure it is nice to have SOME committs at this time but once the season starts and a team gets hot....then puts some pressure on a kid to decommitt then look what happens.

We live in a NOW society that lives by "What have you done for me lately and whatcha gonna do for me now" mind set. Ya'll hating on this staff need to just chill out and let them do their thing.
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This
 
#15
#15
bleedorange1983 said:
amen brother. pputting their parents up in new houses can't hurt either
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Apparently you can get away with that too if you just keep your mouth shut and make sure none of your former players say anything.
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#16
#16
kptvol said:
Kids should be allowed to change their minds. They can take all the damn time they want. It's their freaking lives.
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Wow you must be a good parent cause thats a good lesson to teach your kids. When their Senior year begins recruits should be able to Commit and sign where they want. Emphasis on the word commit.
 
#17
#17
DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
It is amazing to me how we can not win a S.E.C. title yet send so many players to the N.F.L. That simply shows me that our past teams were flat out out coached from start to finish by the Meyers, Sabans, Miles, and Richts of the S.E.C.

I think this photo says it all:
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UT, as I went through and verified a couple months ago, by and large had an absolutely horrid group of assistant coaches. Fulmer had 3 of his old hires go on and become a head coach somewhere else, and Lovie Smith was the longest-serving at UT with a two-year stint (Dave Clawson's 2008 and Doug Marrone's 2001 seasons being the others).

It's one thing to be a longtime assistant and simply not become a coordinator or head coach for one reason or another. But keeping Jimmy Ray Stephens and Greg Adkins around for that many years sure as hell played a big role in why the offensive line largely sucked over the last 10 years.
 
#18
#18
Well, what about if the coaching staff they "committed" to leaves or is fired? They should have the opportunity to change their mind and not be penalized for it. Sure, some may say they should commit to a school and not a coach, but many form relationships with their position coach or head coach. The appeal for that school is no longer there if that particular coach leaves.
 
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VolFromNashville said:
Well, what about if the coaching staff they "committed" to leaves or is fired? They should have the opportunity to change their mind and not be penalized for it. Sure, some may say they should commit to a school and not a coach, but many form relationships with their position coach or head coach. The appeal for that school is no longer there if that particular coach leaves.
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I agree, this is where football could become more like basketball. Xavier Henry signed with memphis but due to conditions of his Loi he was able to get out of it with CJC leaving.
 
#20
#20
Just more proof Phil needed to go. He could recruit them, but couldn't coach them. At least not without his boy Cutt.
 
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VolATLien said:
Wow you must be a good parent cause thats a good lesson to teach your kids. When their Senior year begins recruits should be able to Commit and sign where they want. Emphasis on the word commit.
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Great. Then they can be forced to hang around when a school trades a guy like Nick Saban for a brainiac like Les Miles.
 
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VolsFanRJ said:
Just more proof Phil needed to go. He could recruit them, but couldn't coach them. At least not without his boy Cutt.
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When it came to top shelf OL, DL and QBs, Phil couldn't even recruit them anymore much less his incompetent staff coach them.

In hindsight Phil had significant issues on many levels. His shelf life was well past expired when he was finally removed.
 
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