Must Learn to Win

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I can see what Coach Jones is trying to do here and it is something that has burnt too deep in this team but I am afraid it may not come this year with a lack of decent QB play. That is learning how to win.

Defensively we played good enough to win this game, Fl. defense did not look a that great against our receivers, we had a few drops but we don't have the QB to get North and Croom involved and one with a strong enough arm to keep Pig from getting killed.

The OLB lost contain several times you could see AJ trying to get them in the right positions but the did not move and simple we just don't have a lot of players that are SEC caliber players but we left this game on the field and gave it to them and Coach knows that and I feel bad that Dooley or UT has resorted to QB's the quatlity of the 2 that we have.

It seems with this line and the pass protection they bring start these young guys let them learn with these experienced lineman and learn to lead and what a good OL is supposed to look like. Not one to question Coach cause he has had decent plans we are just like someone else said on another thread one QB away from having a pretty darn good team, lets fine that guy and play some ball, Go Vols!!
 
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Being ranked 114 in FBS passing isn't helping.

Set the bar for the GA game: win and eat at Ruth Chris steakhouse. Lose and eat at the greasy spoon cafe.
 
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Winning is habit. A habit this team has not had the opportunity to form over the last several seasons.

CBJ will fix this in time.
 
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I can see what Coach Jones is trying to do here and it is something that has burnt too deep in this team but I am afraid it may not come this year with a lack of decent QB play. That is learning how to win.

Defensively we played good enough to win this game, Fl. defense did not look a that great against our receivers, we had a few drops but we don't have the QB to get North and Croom involved and one with a strong enough arm to keep Pig from getting killed.

The OLB lost contain several times you could see AJ trying to get them in the right positions but the did not move and simple we just don't have a lot of players that are SEC caliber players but we left this game on the field and gave it to them and Coach knows that and I feel bad that Dooley or UT has resorted to QB's the quatlity of the 2 that we have.

It seems with this line and the pass protection they bring start these young guys let them learn with these experienced lineman and learn to lead and what a good OL is supposed to look like. Not one to question Coach cause he has had decent plans we are just like someone else said on another thread one QB away from having a pretty darn good team, lets fine that guy and play some ball, Go Vols!!

And to say that our qbs are not of quality is false. It takes alot more to quarterback than to just throw the ball. Having two years in a completely different system hasn't helped Worley who in ways looked better as a freshman.

QB is 95% mental and being comfortable in the system is vital. Something Worley doesn't have is comfort. You can tell he isn't just playing ball anymore, but rather thinking way too much. It will come in time for Worley, hopefully not much longer or his career at TN may be short lived.

Now I'm not sure about Peterman. Starting in the swamp is tough for anyone especially a 19 y/o freshman with 0 starts in his career. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt but at this point he "ain't got it".
 
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I find it difficult to bash our QBs. Worley and Peterman are having an Alex Smith(4 OCs in 4 yrs in SF) moment right now. Being thrown into a new offense and expected to pick it up immediately. Bashing of Peterman is ridiculous! You put a Freshman in his debut, on national television, in the swamp, against a very good Muschamp defense.....give me a break.
 
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The big thing I keep noticing is that the defense HAS improved this year---it's just tough to see that because the offense has been poor. We just aren't good enough on defense to be out there for long stretches of time....much less our defense.
 
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I find it difficult to bash our QBs. Worley and Peterman are having an Alex Smith(4 OCs in 4 yrs in SF) moment right now. Being thrown into a new offense and expected to pick it up immediately. Bashing of Peterman is ridiculous! You put a Freshman in his debut, on national television, in the swamp, against a very good Muschamp defense.....give me a break.

In total fairness, Peterman looked far from spectacular in his admittedly limited playing time.

It's not like he came off the bench against AP and showed out. He went 4 of 8 for 28 yards. Ran it 3 times for -3 yards.

This was against Austin Peay in garbage time. I'm not knocking the kid, but those stats are what they are.

Then he comes off the bench in garbage time against Oregon and their 3rd String Defense and doesn't really look good there either.
 
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The big thing I keep noticing is that the defense HAS improved this year---it's just tough to see that because the offense has been poor. We just aren't good enough on defense to be out there for long stretches of time....much less our defense.

Yeah, I brought this up earlier.

They were on the field for almost 21:00 by the time it was half-time.

Against a speedy QB with atrocious depth at LB/CB/S it was concerning.
 
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I find it difficult to bash our QBs. Worley and Peterman are having an Alex Smith(4 OCs in 4 yrs in SF) moment right now. Being thrown into a new offense and expected to pick it up immediately. Bashing of Peterman is ridiculous! You put a Freshman in his debut, on national television, in the swamp, against a very good Muschamp defense.....give me a break.

And yet the same fans criticizing the move to start Peterman ARE NOW clamoring to start a true freshman.
 
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This program has forgot how to win and finish games. The young men we got now wasn't around for the glory days. We just need to realize that this isn't the same program is once was. I think Butch is going to get us back but its going to take at least 4 to 5 yrs to get us back to where we use to be. GO VOLS!
 
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If I'm CBJ this week I'm putting overtime on getting Worley comfortable. He also should make it a point to come out throwing this week and building his confidence. We basically have two weeks of practice and getting him right for the last 3/4 of the season.
 
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This program has forgot how to win and finish games. The young men we got now wasn't around for the glory days. We just need to realize that this isn't the same program is once was. I think Butch is going to get us back but its going to take at least 4 to 5 yrs to get us back to where we use to be. GO VOLS!
Right on i think some fans think just fire the coach and oh boy 10 wins it does not work that way glad to see you got common sense we are young and not that much talent so its like starting over from ground zero we got to replace all these kids that we got now with coaches kids that he recruits and that will take 4 or 5 years you dont have to know how to build a space ship to know that, i wish they were a switch to turn on but it just dont work that way, i dont think people know how bad the talent level really was under you know who, remember one thing we are TENNESSEE and we will rebound and kick azz in the not so far future, please little nick dont skip out to Texas on us, please stay there where you are at where we can kick your azz down the road, dont get chicken chit and run off to TEXAS you little turd face so called man coaching that washing powder team.
 
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You're absolutely right.... gotta wash the Dooley losing stink off this team. I think it's gonna take a lot of these upperclassmen graduating/moving on at the end of the day, and Butch recruiting as many talented players used to doing a lot of winning into the program.
 
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You're absolutely right.... gotta wash the Dooley losing stink off this team. I think it's gonna take a lot of these upperclassmen graduating/moving on at the end of the day, and Butch recruiting as many talented players used to doing a lot of winning into the program.
If my memory is correct, we were 12-13 in the last 2 seasons before Dooley arrived.
 
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If my memory is correct, we were 12-13 in the last 2 seasons before Dooley arrived.

And 15-21 when his work was done. The losing started before him... he just doubled down on it and made the next coach's job about as difficult as possible.... we're seeing the "fruits" of his labor right now IMHO.
 

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