My Perspective: on Tennessee

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1. Started season unranked.
2. Beat Florida, Alabama, and LSU.
3. Have first Heisman-contending player since Peyton.
4. Likely finish 10-2, first time in a long time!
5. We’ll be very good next year.

Let’s get ready to beat the Commodorks!!
 
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1) It takes a very good team, (our excellent offense) to win a championship
2) It takes luck (11am starting time at Death Valley)
3) It takes some divine breaks (Alabama’s missed field goal and dropped pass)
4) you can’t get this far along and lay an egg at USC. Coach Heupel will find out you don’t get that many opportunities to win a championship playing in the SEC. Hopefully he can get us in this position again soon. I’m pulling for him and the Vols.
 
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Yea proud of the year but just disappointed how close this team was from reaching the playoffs.. it finally took them 20 plus years to get to this point to jus sheet it all away that’s the disappointment of it all.. jus sucks.. I just don’t understand how the team was so unprepared.

The locker room stuff hopefully isn’t a cancer and they can rally around the Hooker injury..
 
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Vanhalo said:
Defense won’t get any better next year.
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At this time I'm inclined to highly agree. For the primary reason that CJH may have to face "firing" someone from the defensive staff. I haven't seen it yet from him, nor the stones to do it, while pushing the "family" environment. I think he has it in him, but when? Turning out the same D performance next year is gonna get some rumblings. Anyway the key is not to let someone go when you have to/forced to....it when you know it's right for the program. That can vary by 12 months...which means you underachieved for another full season. Unacceptable.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
Agree with all but #5... depending on your definition of "very good".
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I’d also like to hear that reasoning.
Just how is our defense going to improve and how will the offense be as good under Nico or Milton? I hope it is but I can’t prove it to you with our current roster. Maybe you know about some portal people or some freshmen coming in good enuf to start?
 
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I love JH, but one quick observation from the past:

For the all the hype around Steve Spurrier and the "fun and gun" he won the same number of NCs that Phil Fulmer did and had one less undefeated season than Phil did.

This is not a Fulmer appreciation note, just stick with me here.

Spurrier, in my opinion was one of the "legendary" coaches that is the most overrated. Had he not stumbled upon an up and coming DC (that later became a HOF head coach) by the name of Bob Stoops, he'd be thought of as the Dan Marino of college football coaches.

As great as the JH offense is, defense matters.

I look at guys like Hyatt (couldn't catch a cold early in his career), Small, Hooker (benched at Va Tech), Tillman (2* player I think?), Mincey ( from the UF scrap heap) just to name a few that the staff has really coached up.

It seems like there are a lot more offensive guys that have quickly developed than there have been defensive guys.

I don't think the current level of defensive coaching is capable of winning us any type of championship.

No doubt, overall we're ahead of schedule but I think that's more of a tribute to the coaches on the offensive side of the ball.
 
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We will be competitive in almost all the games with this type of offense but there will be games that the offense isn’t clicking and the defense has to step up. At this point in the rebuild that is just too much to ask. We need to recruit defense the hardest and I am confident Heupel can make most offensive pieces work in his scheme so skill players aren’t as important on that side of the ball. If we get just an average defense we would be scary good.
 
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nomads-11 said:
At this time I'm inclined to highly agree. For the primary reason that CJH may have to face "firing" someone from the defensive staff. I haven't seen it yet from him, nor the stones to do it, while pushing the "family" environment. I think he has it in him, but when? Turning out the same D performance next year is gonna get some rumblings. Anyway the key is not to let someone go when you have to/forced to....it when you know it's right for the program. That can vary by 12 months...which means you underachieved for another full season. Unacceptable.
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Maybe they won’t label it a firing and that person finds a job somewhere else. Either way the defensive staff needs a shakeup. There’s no way that entire staff should come back after their performance this season. Kentucky has been the one outlier. All the other SEC teams (and Pitt) moved the ball with little to no resistance.
 
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MurphyVol said:
I love JH, but one quick observation from the past:

For the all the hype around Steve Spurrier and the "fun and gun" he won the same number of NCs that Phil Fulmer did and had one less undefeated season than Phil did.

This is not a Fulmer appreciation note, just stick with me here.

Spurrier, in my opinion was one of the "legendary" coaches that is the most overrated. Had he not stumbled upon an up and coming DC (that later became a HOF head coach) by the name of Bob Stoops, he'd be thought of as the Dan Marino of college football coaches.

As great as the JH offense is, defense matters.

I look at guys like Hyatt (couldn't catch a cold early in his career), Small, Hooker (benched at Va Tech), Tillman (2* player I think?), Mincey ( from the UF scrap heap) just to name a few that the staff has really coached up.

It seems like there are a lot more offensive guys that have quickly developed than there have been defensive guys.

I don't think the current level of defensive coaching is capable of winning us any type of championship.

No doubt, overall we're ahead of schedule but I think that's more of a tribute to the coaches on the offensive side of the ball.
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Spurrier, as well as Fulmer, were fighting for national championships when Nebraska, Florida State and Miami were dominant. No shame in “only” winning one in that era.
 
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The road schedule next year is kind of brutal.. They have to fix the defense or i'm going to say next year will be a step backwards.
 
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nomads-11 said:
At this time I'm inclined to highly agree. For the primary reason that CJH may have to face "firing" someone from the defensive staff. I haven't seen it yet from him, nor the stones to do it, while pushing the "family" environment. I think he has it in him, but when? Turning out the same D performance next year is gonna get some rumblings. Anyway the key is not to let someone go when you have to/forced to....it when you know it's right for the program. That can vary by 12 months...which means you underachieved for another full season. Unacceptable.
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I thought in JH post game presser you could see he was pissed at the effort. He doesn't strike me as someone who coddles and values relationships over job performance...but we'll see.
 
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nomads-11 said:
At this time I'm inclined to highly agree. For the primary reason that CJH may have to face "firing" someone from the defensive staff. I haven't seen it yet from him, nor the stones to do it, while pushing the "family" environment. I think he has it in him, but when? Turning out the same D performance next year is gonna get some rumblings. Anyway the key is not to let someone go when you have to/forced to....it when you know it's right for the program. That can vary by 12 months...which means you underachieved for another full season. Unacceptable.
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Not sure anyone on the D side needs to be fired. Don't have the talent on the back end to press coverage and other aggressive things. What we need is better players at corner and safety, at least more speed.
 
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Vfl2407 said:
I’d also like to hear that reasoning.
Just how is our defense going to improve and how will the offense be as good under Nico or Milton? I hope it is but I can’t prove it to you with our current roster. Maybe you know about some portal people or some freshmen coming in good enuf to start?
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They weren't great as a group, but unless I'm wrong, we're losing LBs: Mitchell, Beasley, Banks and Page. Have some underclassmen like Herring and Perry, but think gonna need some portal additions to be ready for Spring ball @ LB.
 
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