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ibvolman

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I have noticed against decent coverage our receivers, with the exception of a couple, seem to get frustrated and can’t get a rhythm. The exception is Bru.
Bru came in with a good amount of experience at USC.
Now look at what our receivers have to face in practice. Our secondary can’t cover a stationary wood pile with a 20’ tarp. So the receivers do not face press coverage on any consistent basis. I believe the pressure gets to them at times because of this fact.
 
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ibvolman said:
I have noticed against decent coverage our receivers, with the exception of a couple, seem to get frustrated and can’t get a rhythm. The exception is Bru.
Bru came in with a good amount of experience at USC.
Now look at what our receivers have to face in practice. Our secondary can’t cover a stationary wood pile with a 20’ tarp. So the receivers do not face press coverage on any consistent basis. I believe the pressure gets to them at times because of this fact.
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Looked like to me our receivers weren't finishing their routes. There were several plays where players opposite play side just stood there. That was the first game that I have seen them do that. There were also a couple of long balls that the receiver just stopped and never looked for the ball and it fell a couple yards beyond them.
 
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With press coverage, the quarterback has to throw the ball perfectly or the corners have a chance to affect the completion or with an interception. Hooker has made some of those throws but in the last few games his accuracy has not been as good on some passes as earlier in the season. I remember him getting sacked in a game that he got hit very hard and was visibly hurt. Don't have any idea if that lick may have injured him and affected his accuracy or not, but it could have.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Looked like to me our receivers weren't finishing their routes. There were several plays where players opposite play side just stood there. That was the first game that I have seen them do that. There were also a couple of long balls that the receiver just stopped and never looked for the ball and it fell a couple yards beyond them.
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Not running a route on one side was something we did last year as well. If memory serves, the routes receivers didn’t finish was on tight press coverage. That goes to my point. On long balls where receivers fave up, they had close coverage, and didn’t attempt to turn those into a 50-50 ball. The successful long balls to Hyatt this year has been when he is wide open due to busted coverages. You have to practice what you will face, and our secondary isn’t capable of simulating that due to poor coaching.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Looked like to me our receivers weren't finishing their routes. There were several plays where players opposite play side just stood there. That was the first game that I have seen them do that. There were also a couple of long balls that the receiver just stopped and never looked for the ball and it fell a couple yards beyond them.
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They're not finishing their routes because it's part of the scheme. Hooker makes his read pre-snap. It's how we're able to react and play so quickly.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Looked like to me our receivers weren't finishing their routes. There were several plays where players opposite play side just stood there. That was the first game that I have seen them do that. There were also a couple of long balls that the receiver just stopped and never looked for the ball and it fell a couple yards beyond them.
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Supposedly, the offense has plays at times with a hot side and a "dead" side. That could be what you're seeing.
 
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GAVol said:
Supposedly, the offense has plays at times with a hot side and a "dead" side. That could be what you're seeing.
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This is absolutely correct. It's something we've done little-to-none of this year, but is definitely a part of Heupel's offense, whether or not it's agreed with. Saw it used frequently in the Music City Bowl last year. Not sure why it suddenly popped back up in the USCjr game.
 
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VolBricks said:
or the team put together their NIL money together and put a big bet on USC to not only cover but to win outright.
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Ok. You may be onto something. Maybe that’s why Banks was mad. He didn’t have as much $ to throw into the pot. My theory is evolving.
 
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AlwaysOrangeNeverBlue said:
This is absolutely correct. It's something we've done little-to-none of this year, but is definitely a part of Heupel's offense, whether or not it's agreed with. Saw it used frequently in the Music City Bowl last year. Not sure why it suddenly popped back up in the USCjr game.
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The receivers need to finish their routes regardless of whether or not they are not getting thrown to. Coaching staffs can pick up on that in film studies and know where the play is designed to go. Make the receivers run their routes, even if they are just decoys.
 
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bigorangepoppa said:
The receivers need to finish their routes regardless of whether or not they are not getting thrown to. Coaching staffs can pick up on that in film studies and know where the play is designed to go. Make the receivers run their routes, even if they are just decoys.
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Like I said, “whether or not it’s agreed with.” Lol. Go Vols!
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Looked like to me our receivers weren't finishing their routes. There were several plays where players opposite play side just stood there. That was the first game that I have seen them do that. There were also a couple of long balls that the receiver just stopped and never looked for the ball and it fell a couple yards beyond them.
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That kind of thing is common in Heupel's offense. I've seen that for the 2 yrs he's been here. That's nothing new
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Looked like to me our receivers weren't finishing their routes. There were several plays where players opposite play side just stood there. That was the first game that I have seen them do that. There were also a couple of long balls that the receiver just stopped and never looked for the ball and it fell a couple yards beyond them.
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I wish I could recall his name, maybe it was Brent Hubbs, not sure. But he said that TN’s receivers are not complete route runners. It’s funny you mentioned Bru as he said McCoy was the best route runner. The others are athletic but haven’t had to rely on crisp route ls b/c Heup is able to disguise w motion and find the mismatches which enables our receivers to be open.

One thing I’ve said since Sat night is that our receivers despise contact. It occurred during UGA and again Vs US jr. They look for a flag on every play when there is contact. They will need to adjust and adapt quickly as the NFL will be different.
 
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GAVol said:
Supposedly, the offense has plays at times with a hot side and a "dead" side. That could be what you're seeing.
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Yeah, I’m not a fan of it but I am not the coach. Apparently the WB has a couple of options and mostly one side of the field. As a result, the WR(s) on the opposite side don’t go all out. I understand the concept but get concerned defenses will adapt.
 
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Sea Ray said:
That kind of thing is common in Heupel's offense. I've seen that for the 2 yrs he's been here. That's nothing new
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Occurred while he was OC at Oklahoma and Mizz and then head coach @ Central FL. Supposedly that is one thing Stoops questioned @ OK.
 
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ibvolman said:
I have noticed against decent coverage our receivers, with the exception of a couple, seem to get frustrated and can’t get a rhythm. The exception is Bru.
Bru came in with a good amount of experience at USC.
Now look at what our receivers have to face in practice. Our secondary can’t cover a stationary wood pile with a 20’ tarp. So the receivers do not face press coverage on any consistent basis. I believe the pressure gets to them at times because of this fact.
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The practice of receivers opposite the play side not running routes is nothing new. It has been a hallmark of Heupel's offense. Partly to keep their legs fresh for fadt moving offensive plays
 
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There are a bunch of different reasons that could explain what happened against SC. I think we can all agree that something was way off. I mean is there anyone in here that thinks Rattler is better than Bryce Young? Or that SC is even close to Bama or LSU? We carved both of those teams up and our defense played good in those games.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Looked like to me our receivers weren't finishing their routes. There were several plays where players opposite play side just stood there. That was the first game that I have seen them do that. There were also a couple of long balls that the receiver just stopped and never looked for the ball and it fell a couple yards beyond them.
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Looks to me that most of our defensive players did not want to play defense.
 
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