Mythbusters- Busted or not

[Fine Vol]

Busted- Shooting a enemy sniper through his scope and hitting him in the eye. There are so many seperate pieces of glass in the scope the bullet will not go through straight.

Tell your favorie mythbusters.

 

[MontereyVol]

Look up and read about Carlos Hathcock.

 

[allvol123]

Mythbusters = Frauds

 

[Fine Vol]

Mythbusters = Frauds

:blink:

 

[MontereyVol]

FWIW

In an episode of the fourth season of the television show MythBusters (29 November 2006, Episode 67), hosts Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman attempted to test the feasibility of shooting through the scope of another rifle, citing the confirmed Hathcock incident of shooting a North Vietnamese sniper through his victim's scope. They were unable to replicate the results in the story using the modern equipment they had on hand, so they declared the myth "busted." However, they did not replicate the exact conditions of Hathcock's combat incident. The MythBusters did not take into consideration powder loads, bullet weight, muzzle velocity, angle, or variations in air pressure and density. On the show, they conceded that they were not shooting at the same scope that Hathcock shot at and stated that under the exactly ideal conditions and with extreme luck, the shot may have been possible. In the episode aired on March 21, 2007, the MythBusters revisited this myth and confirmed that it was possible, however had to use armor-piercing rounds to fully penetrate the scope. They used a vintage scope this time, which was smaller than modern scopes, and Jamie successfully fired a bullet through the scope. The bullet penetrated the ballistic gel dummy's face to a depth of two inches, which would be lethal to a human. However, it should be noted that on the March 21, 2007 episode, that Jamie used an M1 Garand chambered in .30-06 Springfield, whereas Hathcock used a Winchester Model 70 chambered in .30-06 Springfield. Additionally, Jamie was only able to complete the shot successfully when he fired an armor-piercing round, while Hathcock stated in interviews that he would normally use only standard military ball ammunition. Because of these caveats, and the lack of solid evidence either way on this specific incident, they declared that the retest showed the myth to only be "plausible" rather than "confirmed."

 

[Fine Vol]

FWIW

Thanks oops

 

[therealUT]

And, this is why I have no desire to be a sniper.

 

[VolfanMike]

Gunny Hathcock did it

 

[allvol123]

The only question I have on the idea of it is this, does a projectile truly fly on a straight plane when fired? I thought there would be some arc to it? Perhaps it is very very minimal and thus could enter the receiving scope and pass through.

 

[Fine Vol]

And, this is why I have no desire to be a sniper.

If I had to lay still all day without moving I want a game boy or something

 

[therealUT]

The only question I have on the idea of it is this, does a projectile truly fly on a straight plane when fired? I thought there would be some arc to it? Perhaps it is very very minimal and thus could enter the receiving scope and pass through.

There is definitely an arc.

 

[Fine Vol]

The only question I have on the idea of it is this, does a projectile truly fly on a straight plane when fired? I thought there would be some arc to it? Perhaps it is very very minimal and thus could enter the receiving scope and pass through.

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[Fine Vol]

What would the % breakdown of the type guns Marines use mabye

60% M4
20%M16
20%Snipers, heavy guns,

 

[therealUT]

What would the % breakdown of the type guns Marines use mabye

60% M4
20%M16
20%Snipers, heavy guns,

Just off the top of my head, I would guesstimate...

38 men in a rifle platoon.
6 SAWs
2 M240Bs
3 M14s (at most)
27 M4s

So, when you figure in the BN Snipers, CO MGs, mortars, etc., your breakdown is probably fairly close.

I just really do not feel like pulling up the MTOE right now to check (or ever).

 

[Fine Vol]

Just off the top of my head, I would guesstimate...

38 men in a rifle platoon.
6 SAWs
2 M240Bs
3 M14s (at most)
27 M4s

So, when you figure in the BN Snipers, CO MGs, mortars, etc., your breakdown is probably fairly close.

I just really do not feel like pulling up the MTOE right now to check (or ever).

cool, interesting Are they phasing out the M16?

 

[allvol123]

FV carries a slingshot and a holster full of Whoppers.

 

[Fine Vol]

FV carries a slingshot and a holster full of Whoppers.

No, snow caps

 

[superdave1984]

My favorite was when they dismantled the safety switch on a water heater and blew the house up.
And Kari is HOT!

 

[justingroves]

The only question I have on the idea of it is this, does a projectile truly fly on a straight plane when fired? I thought there would be some arc to it? Perhaps it is very very minimal and thus could enter the receiving scope and pass through.

Definitely an arc but depends on the gun, cartridge etc as to how much of an arc.

I'm not a sniper but I have killed a lot of deer at 150 to 200 yards away.

 

[hmanvolfan]

Definitely an arc but depends on the gun, cartridge etc as to how much of an arc.

I'm not a sniper but I killed a lot of deer at 150 to 200 yards away.

When you go hunting you don't wear the same camouflage as your avatar do ya? :birgits_giggle:

 

[Chemvol]

The only question I have on the idea of it is this, does a projectile truly fly on a straight plane when fired? I thought there would be some arc to it? Perhaps it is very very minimal and thus could enter the receiving scope and pass through.

There is definitely an arc.

Definitely an arc but depends on the gun, cartridge etc as to how much of an arc.

I'm not a sniper but I killed a lot of deer at 150 to 200 yards away.

The bullet would be subject to the rules of projectile motion the moment it leaves the barrel.

 

[Chemvol]

My favorite was when they dismantled the safety switch on a water heater and blew the house up.
And Kari is HOT!

 

[VOLatile]

There is an arc, but the velocity at which it travels makes it a very small one, I mean tiny. The chances of a bullet hitting something before it falls to the ground is nearly 100%. I can't remember the formula right now, but it has something to do with velocity, mass, and gravity (maybe a constant); assuming shot perfectly parallel to a surface.

 

[therealUT]

cool, interesting Are they phasing out the M16?

For the most part, it has already been phased out in favor of the carbine (M4).

 

[therealUT]

There is an arc, but the velocity at which it travels makes it a very small one, I mean tiny. The chances of a bullet hitting something before it falls to the ground is nearly 100%. I can't remember the formula right now, but it has something to do with velocity, mass, and gravity (maybe a constant); assuming shot perfectly parallel to a surface.

The arc is pretty substantial for most of the firearms used by the US Military. In fact, the Australian Army actually uses their MGs as indirect fire weapons.