Nascar should cut the field from 43 to 38

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Nascar needs to address the start and park situation in my opinion. Look at the Michigan lineup and below Jr. at 38. How many of those cars will complete more than 50 laps tomorrow?

I'm sorry that some people will have to close their doors but it would be like an NFL team saying, "hey we want to make a profit so we only want to play 1 quarter and forfeit the other three."

I feel like if these teams have no intentions of completing a race than they have no business starting it.

Reducing the field would also help pit road at some of the tracks that get too crowded. Dover had guys sharing a pit stall until recently and now it is even more difficult for the drivers to enter pit road. Less cars would allow more room to make pit road entry safer for the drivers.


Not to mention that Nascar could always expand the field again once the economy reaches a point to where 43 cars can be competitive enough to finish a race.

There is my start and park rant. Thoughts?
 
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I said in a post a few weeks ago that NAsCAR should go back to 36 car feilds like they use to run on short tracks. Start and park cars do nothing but hurt the competition and the sport.
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How exactly do they hurt the field and/or competition? They're off the track before they even have the change to get in somebodys way. The only people they keep out of the race are other teams who are doing the same thing.

What difference does it make? How will eliminating them improve the competition? I can think of about 15 other things NASCAR should change before this should even be thought about.
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doozer said:
How exactly do they hurt the field and/or competition? They're off the track before they even have the change to get in somebodys way. The only people they keep out of the race are other teams who are doing the same thing.

What difference does it make? How will eliminating them improve the competition? I can think of about 15 other things NASCAR should change before this should even be thought about.
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I have posted about reducing the fields at the short tracks, but you make an excellent argument with valid points. I think it is just the feeling we are getting cheated out of something that brings about this reaction. If there are supposed to be 43 cars racing, then they should be racing in earnest. I do understand the purpose of start and park. It keeps the shop doors open, and it keeps the car sponsors in view, or keeps the team available for a sponsor.
 
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rbroyles said:
I have posted about reducing the fields at the short tracks, but you make an excellent argument with valid points. I think it is just the feeling we are getting cheated out of something that brings about this reaction. If there are supposed to be 43 cars racing, then they should be racing in earnest. I do understand the purpose of start and park. It keeps the shop doors open, and it keeps the car sponsors in view, or keeps the team available for a sponsor.
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maybe if there were 43 cars with an honest to god shot of winning the race, could i understand the point about racing in earnest.

every week i'd say there's about 16 cars with a shot of winning the race. if they eliminate the start and parks then the race field should be cut down to 12 for the Chase races.
 
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Only top 35 cars run each week. That would probably cut the number of cars trying to qualify from 46 or 48 to 40. It's hard to run 43 cars on the short tracks. Besides at least 3 or 4 cars get lapped in about 2 laps. I think only a 14 cars/drivers have a shot at winning at a track. Believe we can count Jr out. He's lost his edge, but don't think he's ever had one. I say HMS shpuld replace Jr along with Mark in 2012.
 
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I could see 36-38 on 1 mile and under tracks, 38-40 on 1-2 mile tracks and 40-44 on tracks larger than 2 miles.
 
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doozer said:
maybe if there were 43 cars with an honest to god shot of winning the race, could i understand the point about racing in earnest.

every week i'd say there's about 16 cars with a shot of winning the race. if they eliminate the start and parks then the race field should be cut down to 12 for the Chase races.
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I have to disagree about 16 cars with a shot to win. I can count 20 who have won and are in cars capable of winning plus I would add Marcus Ambrose for 21.

HMS - 4 (yes Dale, Jr.)
Rousch - 3
RCR - 3
Penske - 2
Ganasi/RPR - 3
Gibbs - 3
MWR - 2
 
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If some of those cars hit on the setup or get a little luck at a plate race, then yeah maybe there's 21 cars. I don't consider Ambrose, Truex, anybody at RPR not named Kahne and Dale Jr to be any kind of threat week in and week out.
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I know a case can be made for or against these guys. I just personally feel like it cheapens the sport to have a few teams run parade laps to collect a paycheck. I realize a lot of teams aren't competitive but at least they put the effort into finishing as high as possible and finish the race.

The Pittsburgh Pirates have no shot at going to the playoffs when the season starts but they at least finish their season. I can imagine people would be outraged if they quit their season each year before the all-star break in order to save money on operational costs while collecting luxury tax from teams like the Yankees.
 
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comparing baseball to racing is silly.

and it's not like the Pirates have even tried to field a competitive team or keep their best players, all in the name of saving money and cutting costs.
 
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doozer said:
comparing baseball to racing is silly.

and it's not like the Pirates have even tried to field a competitive team or keep their best players, all in the name of saving money and cutting costs.
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It is silly considering what I said would never happen...which makes the start and park situation even more ridiculous. I agree the Pirates don't try and field a competitive team which most people aren't OK with yet we're supposed to accept start and park cars as not a problem?
 
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What problem do they create? Whose race have they ruined? Whose way are they getting in? Whose spot are they taking away?

Like I said, NASCAR has other issues that need to be addressed before this one.
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doozer said:
What problem do they create? Whose race have they ruined? Whose way are they getting in? Whose spot are they taking away?

Like I said, NASCAR has other issues that need to be addressed before this one.
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Nothing wrong with disagreeing. I see where you're coming from but just think every car should be expected to finish as high as possible and compete. I agree with you that other issues need to be addressed as well.
 
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doozer said:
How exactly do they hurt the field and/or competition? They're off the track before they even have the change to get in somebodys way. The only people they keep out of the race are other teams who are doing the same thing.

What difference does it make? How will eliminating them improve the competition? I can think of about 15 other things NASCAR should change before this should even be thought about.
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I have to agree. I don't think it's right that they make the $$ they do for running just a handfull of laps but it is what it is. They have to start off somewhere. The best way to keep your foot in the door is to be at the track trying to make races.
 
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