National Sales Tax?

[myrobbins7]

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[joevol320]

nothing suprising. the fascist party will do anything for more money. they never talk about shrinking gov.

 

[utvolpj]

some of their ideas I like and some I don't but this is what we're going to get with the debt we piled up. Maybe my grandkids will see some reflief

nothing suprising. the fascist party will do anything for more money. they never talk about shrinking gov.

didn't read the article huh?

 

[superdave1984]

I am all for a national sales tax as long as they abolish the IRS. A national sales tax gets everybody, rich, poor, tourists, illegals, etc. More of a fair way to tax the people than what we have now.

 

[joevol320]

some of their ideas I like and some I don't but this is what we're going to get with the debt we piled up. Maybe my grandkids will see some reflief



didn't read the article huh?

:lolabove: your grandkids and mine are gonna have it worse.

 

[utvolpj]

:lolabove: your grandkids and mine are gonna have it worse.

I agree but probably for different reason

 

[droski]

i have no problem with a national sales tax as long as we lower income taxes by an equivalent amount. hate to get all slipperly slope on ya, but if this gets implimented without dropping income taxes you just know everytime we have a budget shortfall we will raise the sales tax.

 

[Arclight]

 

[lawgator1]

Infinitely more complicated than it may seem, at first.

It would be easy to latch onto something like this in depseration to get away from the frustrations of the income tax system. But, you'd be trading one set of headaches for another so it needs to really be thought through.

In the end, any change to the system, be it as enormous as moving from income to sales, or as small as estate taxes or too-narrow a deduction, in the end the debate always breaks down between those who want the change to lessen their own burden and increase someone else's. And from each person's perspective, it only seems "logical" to adopt their particular plan for reform.
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[checkerboard03]

nothing suprising. the fascist party will do anything for more money. they never talk about shrinking gov.

This post 100% exemplifies why the politics forum will never be as interesting as it could be.

1) The story is not affiliated with any political party
2) The story mentions cutting social security taxes and lowering individual and corporate taxes

Knee jerk partisanship accomplishes nothing.

 

[droski]

This post 100% exemplifies why the politics forum will never be as interesting as it could be.

1) The story is not affiliated with any political party
2) The story mentions cutting social security taxes and lowering individual and corporate taxes

Knee jerk partisanship accomplishes nothing.

link me the republicans that are in favor of this without a drop in income tax. thanks much.

 

[checkerboard03]

link me the republicans that are in favor of this without a drop in income tax. thanks much.

What?

All I pointed out was a poster's inaccurate summary of an article that reflected what I considered to be a knee-jerk reaction instead of thoughtful consideration. Whether any of the recommendations will be accepted or not, and the viewpoints of different parties regarding the recommendations, is irrelevant to my post.

My point is not at all partisan - a liberal who assumed a story about gun rights was written by a radical militiaman instead of thinking it through would have provoked the same response from me.

 

[volinbham]

I agree but probably for different reason

ba-zing!

 

[superdave1984]

Infinitely more complicated than it may seem, at first.

It would be easy to latch onto something like this in depseration to get away from the frustrations of the income tax system. But, you'd be trading one set of headaches for another so it needs to really be thought through.

In the end, any change to the system, be it as enormous as moving from income to sales, or as small as estate taxes or too-narrow a deduction, in the end the debate always breaks down between those who want the change to lessen their own burden and increase someone else's. And from each person's perspective, it only seems "logical" to adopt their particular plan for reform.
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The way I see it, it's totally fair. EVERYBODY pays based on how much they spend. If the IRS isn't ripping a chunk of everyone's paycheck, odds are they will spend more money because they have more money. Granted, the government would have to manage the whole thing and there would have to be some way to limit raising the tax rate.

 

[droski]

What?

All I pointed out was a poster's inaccurate summary of an article that reflected what I considered to be a knee-jerk reaction instead of thoughtful consideration. Whether any of the recommendations will be accepted or not, and the viewpoints of different parties regarding the recommendations, is irrelevant to my post.

My point is not at all partisan - a liberal who assumed a story about gun rights was written by a radical militiaman instead of thinking it through would have provoked the same response from me.

i don't think in an inaccurate statement that the democrats are leading this charge.

 

[BigPapaVol]

i have no problem with a national sales tax as long as we lower income taxes by an equivalent amount. hate to get all slipperly slope on ya, but if this gets implimented without dropping income taxes you just know everytime we have a budget shortfall we will raise the sales tax.

exactly. In the end, I don't care how we're taxed as long as it's fair.

Assuming that this is going to make an impact on gross tax revenues is silly. We can stand so much total tax burden, regardless of the name. Piling more on under a different name is exactly the same as simply raising tax rates. Neither would have a substantial long term impact on total tax receipts.

 

[checkerboard03]

i don't think in an inaccurate statement that the democrats are leading this charge.

That's nice for you, but it is an inaccurate statement. The group referenced in the story is a bipartisan group led by a former Republican senator Pete Domenici and Alice Rivlin, who (I think) worked in Bill Clinton's budget office.

Beyond that, the proposal (as I wrote earlier) includes reductions in personal and corporate income tax rates, which is hardly standard fare for the "fascist" party and deserved more consideration than it got.

 

[tigervol9802]

God no.

You all think a sales tax is so easy, and it is in theory, but it's terrible in application.

If we're changing let's just get rid of deductions and go to a flat tax.

 

[BigPapaVol]

That's nice for you, but it is an inaccurate statement. The group referenced in the story is a bipartisan group led by a former Republican senator Pete Domenici and Alice Rivlin, who (I think) worked in Bill Clinton's budget office.

Beyond that, the proposal (as I wrote earlier) includes reductions in personal and corporate income tax rates, which is hardly standard fare for the "fascist" party and deserved more consideration than it got.

you get to decide the level of consideration the remainder of posters should give?

 

[checkerboard03]

you get to decide the level of consideration the remainder of posters should give?

My only point - I think the politics forum is more interesting when the posts are thoughtful. In part, that means at least reading a link before disparaging it. I don't really view that as a personal judgment.