NBA Rising Stars Game 2022

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Interesting thing with the NBA salaries outside of the lottery picks: they are life changing but maybe not uniquely life-changing for long depending on NIL capabilities of the school and the marketability of the player. Some college players may have the option to make almost as much playing another year in college as they would in the NBA.

If A&M will spend $31M on a recruiting class, how much do you think Kansas or UK would pay a current star of Chandler's ilk and potential to stay another year and enhance their title chances? The allure of the pro salary may diminish with the increasing NIL funds in play. Probably a few years off, but it could happen.
 
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vol9799 said:
Interesting thing with the NBA salaries outside of the lottery picks: they are life changing but maybe not uniquely life-changing for long depending on NIL capabilities of the school and the marketability of the player. Some college players may have the option to make almost as much playing another year in college as they would in the NBA.

If A&M will spend $31M on a recruiting class, how much do you think Kansas or UK would pay a current star of Chandler's ilk and potential to stay another year and enhance their title chances? The allure of the pro salary may diminish with the increasing NIL funds in play. Probably a few years off, but it could happen.
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It’s possible, and I hope guys like Chandler will consider it. The difference is that the NBA contracts are at least 3 year deals, and it does get them to the second contract more quickly if they develop in the NBA.
 
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Voltime123 said:
Johnson and Springer have millions in their pockets there is nothing to think about when life changing money comes your way, furthermore KC doesn’t need your advice or opinion on his future
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I didn’t offer any advice. $12 million is chump change compared to what an average NBA starter like JR Smith made and he wasn’t even a superstar. Point is maybe getting a little older and a little better is worth some thought. Also why so harsh? geez
 
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driscokid said:
I didn’t offer any advice. $12 million is chump change compared to what an average NBA starter like JR Smith made and he wasn’t even a superstar. Point is maybe getting a little older and a little better is worth some thought. Also why so harsh? geez
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They can get older and better while making millions of dollars and getting to the multi-generational wealth level faster. Just a massive love of playing college basketball combined with an already wealthy family are the only reasons I can see for coming back for anyone with a legit shot at getting drafted.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
They can get older and better while making millions of dollars and getting to the multi-generational wealth level faster. Just a massive love of playing college basketball combined with an already wealthy family are the only reasons I can see for coming back for anyone with a legit shot at getting drafted.
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I see the point. But $12 mill at 20 is tricky
 
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driscokid said:
I didn’t offer any advice. $12 million is chump change compared to what an average NBA starter like JR Smith made and he wasn’t even a superstar. Point is maybe getting a little older and a little better is worth some thought. Also why so harsh? geez
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There is no guarantee that they will get better simply by staying in college. A guy who is good enough to play in the NBA will also develop while playing in the NBA.

JR Smith was the 18th pick and made 1.3 million in his first 3 years. Just like what Johnson and Springer did. If they are good enough, they will make more. If they aren’t, they made $12 million.
 
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VolGee4 said:
There is no guarantee that they will get better simply by staying in college. A guy who is good enough to play in the NBA will also develop while playing in the NBA.

JR Smith was the 18th pick and made 1.3 million in his first 3 years. Just like what Johnson and Springer did. If they are good enough, they will make more. If they aren’t, they made $12 million.
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Yeah I know. Just wouldn’t mind seeing the kid one more year. Like Grant
 
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What’s the value of playing in a packed TBA on ESPN/CBS competing for championships versus playing in meaningless games in empty arenas in the minor leagues?

I wonder what Springer and Keons quality of life is right now compared to what it would be at Tennessee? Is blowing cash in the club more gratifying than being big man on campus?

Were they not confident they’d get just as good of not a better contract a year later? Fear of injury is the only argument I see in going pro after one year instead of 2-3.

Money is great but college is priceless IMO.
 
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General Jack said:
What’s the value of playing in a packed TBA on ESPN/CBS competing for championships versus playing in meaningless games in empty arenas in the minor leagues?

I wonder what Springer and Keons quality of life is right now compared to what it would be at Tennessee? Is blowing cash in the club more gratifying than being big man on campus?

Were they not confident they’d get just as good of not a better contract a year later? Fear of injury is the only argument I see in going pro after one year instead of 2-3.

Money is great but college is priceless IMO.
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See my below quoted post from another thread addressing the same topic. It was directed at a different poster who had similar views on the NBA Draft process.
Some of the wording in it isn't directed at you, necessarily, but I'm not taking the time to edit it. You'll get the gist of it from a high level.

First, if someone guaranteed you $12.5 million as a 19 year old kid to leave college, don't pretend to tell me you wouldn't jump on it like a dog in heat.

Second, you aren't considering endorsement deals which push that total even higher.

Third, sticking around in college for four years is not a historical advantage to getting drafted higher. NBA teams value youth, upside, potential, and their unabated access to you to develop that potential. Four years later, you are older, harder to break of bad habits, and less malleable. Generally speaking, that is a less attractive profile to an NBA team unless you are someone who came in to college as a relative unknown, and developed into an NBA talent in your four years.

Fourth, the NBA rookie pay structure is no different for a college grad and a one-and-done player, so simply put, by waiting until graduation to declare for the NBA, you've cost yourself three years of earning potential. Keon, at his draft slot, was going to make $12.5 million whether he left now, or waited until he graduated in three years, not the arbitrary $50-$100 million figure you threw out there.

Fifth, so you're probably asking yourself, "Well, what if he improved in college and improved his draft stock?" I'd immediately tell you to see points 3 and 4, above, but let's take it further. What if he gets injured? Draft stock down. What if he gets exposed as just not being an elite talent? Draft stock down. What if he makes a dumb mistake and gets kicked out of school? Draft stock down.

Keon escaped all of those potential pitfalls by jumping early and getting paid. College isn't going anywhere. It will always be available to him. Most of our chosen career paths value experience, education, and development. His chosen profession values just the opposite; youth, availability, and opportunity to develop. You just can't draw a line of correlation between the two and try to make sense of it because they value entirely different key principles.
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cncchris33 said:
See my below quoted post from another thread addressing the same topic. It was directed at a different poster who had similar views on the NBA Draft process.
Some of the wording in it isn't directed at you, necessarily, but I'm not taking the time to edit it. You'll get the gist of it from a high level.
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This is the best explanation of the path a one and done is navigating. Well done 👍!
 
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cncchris33 said:
See my below quoted post from another thread addressing the same topic. It was directed at a different poster who had similar views on the NBA Draft process.
Some of the wording in it isn't directed at you, necessarily, but I'm not taking the time to edit it. You'll get the gist of it from a high level.
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That’s good information and I understand the direct financial side.

What I’m pointing out is the opportunity cost of the life experience they are passing up being big man on campus playing for full arenas on national TV and competing for championships. Compared to playing in obscurity and wasting away in the G league.

Yes they can go back to college later but they would be a G league wash out and no longer a ball player. Not the same experience at all.

I agree that it would be hard to pass up $12M as a 19 year old. I hope that the kids that take the money have something to show for it 5 years later. I bet most don’t. A couple more years of maturity might help.
 
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General Jack said:
That’s good information and I understand the direct financial side.

What I’m pointing out is the opportunity cost of the life experience they are passing up being big man on campus playing for full arenas on national TV and competing for championships. Compared to playing in obscurity and wasting away in the G league.

Yes they can go back to college later but they would be a G league wash out and no longer a ball player. Not the same experience at all.

I agree that it would be hard to pass up $12M as a 19 year old. I hope that the kids that take the money have something to show for it 5 years later. I bet most don’t. A couple more years of maturity might help.
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Multi-millionaire able to secure yours and your family's future >>> big man on campus. It's not wasting away in the G-League, it's working to get better so you can become a rotation player and get to that massive second contract. That's far more important than getting your ego stroked for a few months on a college campus.
 
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General Jack said:
That’s good information and I understand the direct financial side.

What I’m pointing out is the opportunity cost of the life experience they are passing up being big man on campus playing for full arenas on national TV and competing for championships. Compared to playing in obscurity and wasting away in the G league.

Yes they can go back to college later but they would be a G league wash out and no longer a ball player. Not the same experience at all.

I agree that it would be hard to pass up $12M as a 19 year old. I hope that the kids that take the money have something to show for it 5 years later. I bet most don’t. A couple more years of maturity might help.
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I think we as fans probably value that experience from afar more so than the actual athletes do, especially those who see college as a roadblock to the NBA.
 
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I started a thread about the possibility of KC staying another year And most posters acted like their was no chance.They don’t understand that with the NIL now it’s really an unknown if players will stay another year.
Yea that 12 mil guarantee is nice but really the first 2 years are what’s guaranteed of the rookie contract and the team has the option for the 3rd and fourth.
The 15th round draft pick last year was offered. 3 m annually.
So let’s say a nil deal offers a player one mil or more to come back n chase a championship and play in college for one more year..
Some players leave for the nba to early and yes they make that quick check but if it doesn’t work out they fade away in the g league and never see the court.
Maybe another year of college would have given these players more time to work on their games and their confidence. I still think KC will come back.[/QUOTE]
 
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General Jack,It's all about the choice.Stay and enjoy college life,or,leave for guaranteed millions.Like,do I go to the beach for spring break,or,do I go home to see family and friends?Neither is wrong,just what you want at the time.
 
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