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heard on the radio that nbc sent a reporter to vietnam to confirm if john mccain was tortured or not. they found one of the guard there and he disputed mccains story. why didn't nbc send reporters to chicago to investigate obama????

this is a new low, purely pathetic.
 
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joevol320 said:
heard on the radio that nbc sent a reporter to vietnam to confirm if john mccain was tortured or not. they found one of the guard there and he disputed mccains story. why didn't nbc send reporters to chicago to investigate obama????

this is a new low, purely pathetic.
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What do you expect from filthy, nasty, lying liberals?

I think I will continue to believe McCain's fellow POWs who say he was tortured. Including former Senator Jeremiah Denton.

Jeremiah Denton, author of When Hell was in Session.
 
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joevol320 said:
heard on the radio that nbc sent a reporter to vietnam to confirm if john mccain was tortured or not. they found one of the guard there and he disputed mccains story. why didn't nbc send reporters to chicago to investigate obama????

this is a new low, purely pathetic.
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Which radio show? Is there documentation you can share? I would legitimately like to read this story.
 
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joevol320 said:
heard on the radio that nbc sent a reporter to vietnam to confirm if john mccain was tortured or not. They found one of the guard there and gave him a pack of cigs, so he disputed mccains story. Why didn't nbc send reporters to chicago to investigate obama????

This is a new low, purely pathetic.
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fyp
 
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I can't hit the link at work, but my guess is they would of course deny torture was done. Why risk any chance of being jailed for war crimes or something? Dunno, but it is fishy and a really juvenile way to conduct your job as a news organization.
 
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superdave1984 said:
I can't hit the link at work, but my guess is they would of course deny torture was done. Why risk any chance of being jailed for war crimes or something? Dunno, but it is fishy and a really juvenile way to conduct your job as a news organization.
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a guard said that mccain taught him english. of course he wasn't speaking english, he had a translator with him. how funny.
 
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I thought it was well-known McCain can't move his arms above his head because of his shoulders/torture in Vietnam?

He was still a POW, even though he did get special treatement for being an Admiral's son, he refused most of it.
 
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Where did it say the purpose of the story was to confirm if he was tortured or not?

I saw the story as an attempt to interview people that were there. Where did NBC dispute the fact that he was tortured? We don't even know if the sole guard interviewed was involved in torture, and even if he was, would you expect him to admit in on television?

I don't know what was pathetic about this piece. McCain is a war hero, and this story never disputed or denigrated that.
 
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rjd970 said:
Where did it say the purpose of the story was to confirm if he was tortured or not?

I saw the story as an attempt to interview people that were there. Where did NBC dispute the fact that he was tortured? We don't even know if the sole guard interviewed was involved in torture, and even if he was, would you expect him to admit in on television?

I don't know what was pathetic about this piece. McCain is a war hero, and this story never disputed or denigrated that.
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I cannot listen this piece at work so I will ask you....Usually at the end of any piece like this a journalist or reporter will address the points of contention, in this case McCain's (and others) reports of beatings and mistreatment and their (this gaurd) denial. Was this issue addressed at all by the piece?

If this was not addressed it is a major omission from the story. If it was not mentioned it would seem like a pretty significant part not to address IMO.
 
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rjd970 said:
Where did it say the purpose of the story was to confirm if he was tortured or not?

I saw the story as an attempt to interview people that were there. Where did NBC dispute the fact that he was tortured? We don't even know if the sole guard interviewed was involved in torture, and even if he was, would you expect him to admit in on television?

I don't know what was pathetic about this piece. McCain is a war hero, and this story never disputed or denigrated that.
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I think the point is they say McCain recalls vivid memories of the torture he received. Then they cut to a guy that they say "remembers it differently" and claims they were friends. I would think they'd balance that out somewhat because it sounds like a he said, he said as presented. It does call into question if things were really bad there.
 
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KB5252 said:
I cannot listen this piece at work so I will ask you....Usually at the end of any piece like this a journalist or reporter will address the points of contention, in this case McCain's (and others) reports of beatings and mistreatment and their (this gaurd) denial. Was this issue addressed at all by the piece?

If this was not addressed it is a major omission from the story. If it was not mentioned it would seem like a pretty significant part not to address IMO.
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The piece was 3 minutes. It wasn't any kind of mission to confirm what did or didn't happen. The reporter interviewed a fisherman that supposedly pulled him out of the water, a nurse that gave him antibiotics, and a guard that claimed to have late night chats with him...all three interviews took about a minute total of the piece, if that. There was no focus on the torture issue at all, it was mentioned for probably less than a half minute. The rest showed current day footage of the prison and recounted his prison time and how he has worked to normalize relations with the country since then.

Biggest part that could be construed to be bias was when the guard was interviewed and the reporter said [about the torture] "but this guard remembered it differently"...and went on to show a clip of the guard recounting how McCain taught him to say the word "lamp" one night.

I saw it as more of a information spot on an interesting story people are curious about. There was no "fact finding" mission to prove if he really was tortured or not.
 
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Still, the impression left is McCain said it was brutal this guys says it wasn't - you decide.
 
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volinbham said:
I think the point is they say McCain recalls vivid memories of the torture he received. Then they cut to a guy that they say "remembers it differently" and claims they were friends. I would think they'd balance that out somewhat because it sounds like a he said, he said as presented. It does call into question if things were really bad there.
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There are others that have confirmed, through their own accounts, Mccain's story. I would believe them over a man that once was a warden at that camp. Just MO.
 
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volinbham said:
I think the point is they say McCain recalls vivid memories of the torture he received. Then they cut to a guy that they say "remembers it differently" and claims they were friends. I would think they'd balance that out somewhat because it sounds like a he said, he said as presented. It does call into question if things were really bad there.
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I can agree it could come across that way.

But we are also talking about 15 seconds of the story. Not once was it explicitely disputed by NBC that he was tortured, nor was torture the central issue of the piece. NBC can be bias, but I think it is a little of a stretch here to paint NBC as somehow questioning the honesty of McCain with regards to his war experiences. I think it is making much to do about nothing.
 
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I agree the NBC reporter could've done a better job in juxtaposing McCain's version of events with that of the prison director, who would obviously claim no torture took place.
 
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notverycrucial said:
I agree the NBC reporter could've done a better job in juxtaposing McCain's version of events with that of the prison director, who would obviously claim no torture took place.
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Then why report what's already been reported multiple times. They're digging for dirt and airing someone saying they remember it differently is a jab at McCain. Simple as that.
 
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