NCAA adopts $2k Pocket Cash to Scholly Athletes

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Institutions will not be required to offer the benefit, but conferences are encouraged to consider common application within their membership.
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I'd guess that the SEC will be on board.
 
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I kind of skimmed the article so I might have missed it, but I'm assuming that $2,000 will be per semester?
 
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#1ArencibiaFan said:
Looks like the institutions themselves. Even more separation from top to bottom.
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yeah, and I see this as a huge recruiting advantage in some sports. The Gonzagas of the world will now go away, because you know they are not paying it, and the players are going to have to choose between playing there, or going across town to a PAC12 school that IS paying it.

it is not a HUGE amount of money, but apparently every dime matters.
 
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GatorBill said:
yeah, and I see this as a huge recruiting advantage in some sports. The Gonzagas of the world will now go away, because you know they are not paying it, and the players are going to have to choose between playing there, or going across town to a PAC12 school that IS paying it.

it is not a HUGE amount of money, but apparently every dime matters.
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To the inner city kids it absolutely is.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
To the inner city kids it absolutely is.
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well, this is true. Actually for MY kid it would be as well, and she is just a lil country kid.

But where do we stop with this money. Cause now you deal with a few problems.

1) cost of living
2) faculty pay freezes
3) in smaller sports, some kids will be getting paid and the kid next to them gets ZERO. I dont see this working out well.

I guess I have a problem with the overall issue of "need". If the kid had need, and filled out a fafsa, they would be getting a pell grant. or a fed student loan. Something.

I think this is a huge waste of money and ticket prices just went up.
 
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Over the last 50 years, the NCAA has made numerous changes to ensure a level playing field for all of the schools within each division. This singlehandedly undoes everything that has been done to this point by now codifying a split between the rich and poor. This isn't based on any true widespread issues, this is based on a small number of incidents at high-profile schools. Shame on the NCAA for bowing to the schools that have no problems printing money at the expense of those who barely scrape by.

People wanted to whine and cry about how "these kids can't even get a pizza!" Fine. I suggest the following for anyone receiving this additional money. If a player receiving the additional money is caught taking money from boosters or anyone else, he is permanently ineligible for NCAA competition. He now has his money, what else could be needed?
 
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Ohio Vol said:
Over the last 50 years, the NCAA has made numerous changes to ensure a level playing field for all of the schools within each division. This singlehandedly undoes everything that has been done to this point by now codifying a split between the rich and poor. This isn't based on any true widespread issues, this is based on a small number of incidents at high-profile schools. Shame on the NCAA for bowing to the schools that have no problems printing money at the expense of those who barely scrape by.

People wanted to whine and cry about how "these kids can't even get a pizza!" Fine. I suggest the following for anyone receiving this additional money. If a player receiving the additional money is caught taking money from boosters or anyone else, he is permanently ineligible for NCAA competition. He now has his money, what else could be needed?
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The irony of the "can't even get a pizza" comment is that it was popularized by a fella named Webber at u of mich. And not only could the kid afford a pizza, but he was on the take for multi-thousands of dollars (4 of the fab five received a combined total of $616,000.)

I am with you, there is a small number of schools that are making big noise, and this benefits them while crushing others. Im not a fan of this at all.
 
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The bigger conferences that are going to pay the 2k should be able to find the funds somewhere within the AD. If anything, they can take it out of what they're budgeting for coaches. If you can't afford another 170k (85x2) and still have money for football coaches, then you're not budgeting very well, IMO.
Fans will probably end up paying for a lot of this though.

I haven't read enough to see that if a school paying the benefit must extend the benefit to all athletes who are on a full scholly. Obviously, the coaches of the smaller sports aren't getting the big bucks.
 
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I really like this move. Give it five years and betting on most college sporting events will be easy money.

(This is the only upside I can see in this debacle; might as well just get rid of college sports).
 
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ukvols said:
The bigger conferences that are going to pay the 2k should be able to find the funds somewhere within the AD. If anything, they can take it out of what they're budgeting for coaches. If you can't afford another 170k (85x2) and still have money for football coaches, then you're not budgeting very well, IMO.
Fans will probably end up paying for a lot of this though.

I haven't read enough to see that if a school paying the benefit must extend the benefit to all athletes who are on a full scholly. Obviously, the coaches of the smaller sports aren't getting the big bucks.
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this is from the article. Looks like only the full scholly athletes.

The Board also adopted legislation giving student-athletes who receive full athletics scholarships the opportunity to receive additional athletics aid up to the full cost of attendance or $2,000, whichever is less.
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I see this as a huge problem.
 
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GatorBill said:
this is from the article. Looks like only the full scholly athletes.

I see this as a huge problem.
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Athletes on partial scholarship will receive a stipend equal to their percentage of scholarship.
 
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GatorBill said:
The irony of the "can't even get a pizza" comment is that it was popularized by a fella named Webber at u of mich. And not only could the kid afford a pizza, but he was on the take for multi-thousands of dollars (4 of the fab five received a combined total of $616,000.)

I am with you, there is a small number of schools that are making big noise, and this benefits them while crushing others. Im not a fan of this at all.
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That's to say nothing of the fact that the OSU scandal that broke all of this wide open had to do with selling awards and gear for cash....and tattoos. Maybe it's just me, but I've never seen a tattoo buy a pizza or any of the other standard fallbacks ("need a place to live" or "take care of my family").
 
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therealUT said:
I really like this move. Give it five years and betting on most college sporting events will be easy money.

(This is the only upside I can see in this debacle; might as well just get rid of college sports).
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From what I understand it will be a conference by conference decision.

They should just give mid majors their own division at this point
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milohimself said:
From what I understand it will be a conference by conference decision.

They should just give mid majors their own division at this point
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I agree that it is conference by conference; however, the pool of talent that will now be available 2 and 3 deep to big time programs will result in overwhelming advantages.
 
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ukvols said:
The bigger conferences that are going to pay the 2k should be able to find the funds somewhere within the AD. If anything, they can take it out of what they're budgeting for coaches. If you can't afford another 170k (85x2) and still have money for football coaches, then you're not budgeting very well, IMO.
Fans will probably end up paying for a lot of this though.

I haven't read enough to see that if a school paying the benefit must extend the benefit to all athletes who are on a full scholly. Obviously, the coaches of the smaller sports aren't getting the big bucks.
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It won't just be fans paying for it through higher ticket prices, it'll be students through increases in compulsory fees.

In 2010, there were three MAC schools whose head coaches made more than $375,000 in the year, with the highest-paid being slightly more than $500,000. The MAC, which has always been a breeding ground for great coaches to get their start at the college level, already sees several talented coaches leave on an annual basis to make a lateral move with a much higher salary elsewhere. What would it mean for the MAC if they're forced into something like this? (Yes, I know that currently no one is "forced", but when players considering a chance to start at Central Michigan end up walking on at Indiana for the extra cash, we'll see how long that lasts.)

Hell, why not just eliminate scholarship limits while we're at it? The NCAA clearly has no problem helping out the larger schools "if they can afford it"...why not give them a bump up to 105 scholarships? Why not 125? 150? After all, if they can absorb the costs (and pass it off onto fans or other students) and it means possibly being more competitive, why restrict what they can do now?
 
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DeerPark12 said:
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Athletes on partial scholarship will receive a stipend equal to their percentage of scholarship.
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Do you have a link? Not saying I dont believe you, just looking for the best places to read. Once I get home and the kids get ahold of me, I have limited time to search this stuff.

ALSO, Im NOT saying my kid deserves or needs this money, but my kid is an athlete on a full ride for academics. She is competing with and most importantly PRACTICING WITH the people who are on scholly. Her time at practice is just as important as the fully scholly players time at practice. She cant get a job because she has practice and academic commitments. She cannot afford to go out and get a pizza with the friends, because she is too busy with her sport, and giving all she has for her beloved LadyVols.

Why isnt she entitled to the same 2000bucks?

NOTE: Im not really arguing this point for my kid, I dont care, and she doesnt care about this money personally. But there are other kids competing for this university that put all of their time into their sport. They dont work because they cannot find the time.

AND, if you are paying your own damn way for school, like a lot of kids are, why are you not entitled to the money just like the kid that is getting his/her schooling for FREE?!?! Which kid has the greater financial needs here? Crap, I just got all riled up!

I just see this as a huge problem. There will be lawsuits by some parents out there who think their kids are getting shafted.
 
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This sucks for the smaller schools and is a problem. I hate hearing the "players shouldn't be treated different than regular school kids" but in reality, it's the only fair thing to do. Regular college kid has the option of getting a part time job when I would imagine the time schedule for most of these players make it impossible.
 
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