New Candidates for Baseball Job

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FredWhite2

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Dan McDonnell from Louisville is interested in the job and has been contacted by our Athletic Department. First, let me preface my thoughts by saying anyone who thinks McDonnell will just jump ship from a program he has built into a perennial NCAA tournament team is crazy. He likes his place in Louisville, and he can make the tournament every year. Yes, obviously he wants to coach in the SEC, however if the money is not good enough (around or above 750k) I do not see us luring him away from U of L.

Eric Bakich from Maryland, previously an assistant coach under Tim Corbin at Vanderbilt is also a candidate I think we should take a long look at. Although his record thus far at Maryland does not jump out as being a major success, he was the recruiting coordinator at Vandy and had major success in signing top classes during his tenure there including a top 25 class every year as well as the top overall class twice (2005, 2008). To my knowledge he has not been contacted as of today by the Athletic staff, but could be a name to pop up in the near future.

The Chris Burke rumors as well as the Pickler rumors are not true as neither of the two have been, nor will be contacted about the job.

Regardless of who Mike Hamilton decides to hire, improvement is inevitable for the Tennessee baseball program, and I look forward to watching this program become successful in the future. We have the facilities and the fan base to be successful, we just need someone who can relate to the kids and re-energize the volnation.

V,B
 
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How much was TR making? Also, How much does Corbin and other top coaches make? I have no idea.
 
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FredWhite2 said:
Dan McDonnell from Louisville is interested in the job and has been contacted by our Athletic Department. First, let me preface my thoughts by saying anyone who thinks McDonnell will just jump ship from a program he has built into a perennial NCAA tournament team is crazy. He likes his place in Louisville, and he can make the tournament every year. Yes, obviously he wants to coach in the SEC, however if the money is not good enough (around or above 750k) I do not see us luring him away from U of L.

Eric Bakich from Maryland, previously an assistant coach under Tim Corbin at Vanderbilt is also a candidate I think we should take a long look at. Although his record thus far at Maryland does not jump out as being a major success, he was the recruiting coordinator at Vandy and had major success in signing top classes during his tenure there including a top 25 class every year as well as the top overall class twice (2005, 2008). To my knowledge he has not been contacted as of today by the Athletic staff, but could be a name to pop up in the near future.

The Chris Burke rumors as well as the Pickler rumors are not true as neither of the two have been, nor will be contacted about the job.

Regardless of who Mike Hamilton decides to hire, improvement is inevitable for the Tennessee baseball program, and I look forward to watching this program become successful in the future. We have the facilities and the fan base to be successful, we just need someone who can relate to the kids and re-energize the volnation.

V,B
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If you want someone that can relate to the kids and will put their heart and soul into the program, hiure Chris Burke TODAY!!!
 
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lefty said:
$295,000+ bonuses.......:eek:lol:
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That's what pissed me off most about the TR hire. We paid Kobe beef prices for McDonald's Big Mac product.

Did Mike let Raleigh fill in the blanks on contract and checks?
 
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Chris Burke will not be the next coach here. I understand he was a great player for us, and an average player in the MLB, but his coaching credentials just aren't there right now...

Corbin makes around 850k at Vandy after bonuses and other perks are included... Other coaches make right at or slightly above 1 million dollars at some schools (LSU, USCjr, Ark, Texas...)

I cannot for the life of me imagine what Hamilton was thinking or saw in Raleigh when he made the decision to hire him. Hopefully he will have learned not to go down that road again this time. This hire could HELP to put him back into good graces with a lot of people and our fan base in general, so it would behoove him to go out and get someone who is well established and will excite our fan base again.
 
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1985Vols said:
If you want someone that can relate to the kids and will put their heart and soul into the program, hiure Chris Burke TODAY!!!
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Would love to see a former Ex-Vol take over the reigns but hes never coached and that scares me. Would love us to get a seasoned coach and hire Chris as a potential future replacement. I know this wont happen but in a perfect world it would.
 
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I think that Burke has been hanging around the Univ of Louisville program.

Wonder if McDonnell comes and brings Burke with him?......Groom him for the job one day?

Purely speculation.
 
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Gray0501 said:
I think that Burke has been hanging around the Univ of Louisville program.

Wonder if McDonnell comes and brings Burke with him?......Groom him for the job one day?

Purely speculation.
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Solid speculation. Although, McDonnell is still a young man. Don't think he's interested in grooming a replacement any time soon.
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If Burke is lobbying for a/thee job as stated by the media, I hope he gets a position in some capacity.
 
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Hobock said:
Solid speculation. Although, McDonnell is still a young man. Don't think he's interested in grooming a replacement any time soon.
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Does not have to groom him for that. Burke could always leave at some point and return in the future if warranted.

If the Louisville coach got it, it would be smart IMO to have someone with some insight into the program/school/area.
 
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GoVols2003 said:
Does not have to groom him for that. Burke could always leave at some point and return in the future if warranted.

If the Louisville coach got it, it would be smart IMO to have someone with some insight into the program/school/area.
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And if McDonnell leaves Louisville it would also make sense for Burke to lobby to be on the staff there....esp if an asst gets the job there...

soooo much could happen....interesting to speculate though....
 
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Is Yogi Berra still available? If nothing else, we'd get some good quotes out of him, such as:

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore."
"Baseball is ninety percent mental. The other half is physical."
"If people don't want to come out to the ball park, nobody's gonna stop 'em."
"I never said most of the things I said."
"It gets late early out there."
 
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Special Ed said:
Is Yogi Berra still available? If nothing else, we'd get some good quotes out of him, such as:

"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore."
"Baseball is ninety percent mental. The other half is physical."
"If people don't want to come out to the ball park, nobody's gonna stop 'em."
"I never said most of the things I said."
"It gets late early out there."
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How about..."We don't know where we are going, but we are making good time."
 
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If you are a coach, why wouldn't you be interested in the job. You have facilities that have been upgraded recently, a program that has produced MLB talent, a solid fan base, and an AD that will give you lots of money to go away and not coach or reward you for just making the SEC baseball tourney or maybe even going .500, lol.

On a serious note, I really would love to see Serrano or someone with a little pedigree behind him, not just a coach from a small school as Hamilton typically hires. Fingers crossed that for a change he makes a splash.
 
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FredWhite2 said:
Chris Burke will not be the next coach here. I understand he was a great player for us, and an average player in the MLB, but his coaching credentials just aren't there right now...

Corbin makes around 850k at Vandy after bonuses and other perks are included... Other coaches make right at or slightly above 1 million dollars at some schools (LSU, USCjr, Ark, Texas...)

I cannot for the life of me imagine what Hamilton was thinking or saw in Raleigh when he made the decision to hire him. Hopefully he will have learned not to go down that road again this time. This hire could HELP to put him back into good graces with a lot of people and our fan base in general, so it would behoove him to go out and get someone who is well established and will excite our fan base again.
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I don't where you guys are getting these salary numbers but I can assure you Tim Corbin makes nowhere near 850k and I suspect Texas is the only school paying a baseball coach $1,000,000.00. LSU, Miss State, Arkansas and South Carolina pay above $500,000.00. I don't believe there is another coach in the SEC above that number. Outside of the conference I think only Augie and Horton are above $500,000.00.
 
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HERE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE WHICH RAN EXACTLY ONE YEAR AGO AT LAST YEAR'S SEC TOURNAMENT:

Paul Mainieri, LSU- $625,000 ($285,000)
John Cohen, Mississippi State- $604,841 (41,667)
Mike Bianco, Ole Miss- $580,000 ($13,333)
Dave Van Horn, Arkansas- $500,508 (Not provided)
Ray Tanner, South Carolina- $500,000 ($182,500)
Dave Perno, Georgia- $425,000 ($75,660)
Kevin O'Sullivan, Florida- $300,000 ($54,000)
John Pawlowski, Auburn- $300,000 ($135,000)
Todd Raleigh, Tennessee- $295,000 ($80,000)
Gary Henderson, Kentucky- $262,000 ($31,250)
Mitch Gaspard, Alabama- $225,000 ($82,915)
 
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A couple of things....

The reason someone would not just jump at the chance to coach here (like a Dan McDonnell) is because we play in the toughest division in college baseball. We have ZERO talent here right now, so we cannot compete right away. The person who comes in would have to have time to implement his system and recruit his guys, just like Dooley in football, however the baseball program is in far worse shape. Yes we have excellent facilities and play in a great conference, but the fear factor and challenge of rebuilding a terrible and struggling program in the best conference in baseball combined with a coach already having a nice situation where he is would be a reason as to why some guys would turn it down or not just jump at the chance to come here.

Also, yes Tim Corbin does make around 850k/year at Vanderbilt. And yes coaches at LSU, Texas, USCjr, Arkansas make around or even above 1 million a year after bonuses and school related endorsements are included.
 
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FredWhite2 said:
A couple of things....

The reason someone would not just jump at the chance to coach here (like a Dan McDonnell) is because we play in the toughest division in college baseball. We have ZERO talent here right now, so we cannot compete right away. The person who comes in would have to have time to implement his system and recruit his guys, just like Dooley in football, however the baseball program is in far worse shape. Yes we have excellent facilities and play in a great conference, but the fear factor and challenge of rebuilding a terrible and struggling program in the best conference in baseball combined with a coach already having a nice situation where he is would be a reason as to why some guys would turn it down or not just jump at the chance to come here.

Also, yes Tim Corbin does make around 850k/year at Vanderbilt. And yes coaches at LSU, Texas, USCjr, Arkansas make around or even above 1 million a year after bonuses and school related endorsements are included.
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The good thing about baseball is you can bring in one class and be able to compete instanly,unlike football. Need a coach who can get in here and recruit and we will be fine.
 
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FredWhite2 said:
A couple of things....

The reason someone would not just jump at the chance to coach here (like a Dan McDonnell) is because we play in the toughest division in college baseball. We have ZERO talent here right now, so we cannot compete right away. The person who comes in would have to have time to implement his system and recruit his guys, just like Dooley in football, however the baseball program is in far worse shape. Yes we have excellent facilities and play in a great conference, but the fear factor and challenge of rebuilding a terrible and struggling program in the best conference in baseball combined with a coach already having a nice situation where he is would be a reason as to why some guys would turn it down or not just jump at the chance to come here.

Also, yes Tim Corbin does make around 850k/year at Vanderbilt. And yes coaches at LSU, Texas, USCjr, Arkansas make around or even above 1 million a year after bonuses and school related endorsements are included.
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Craig Cobb, former player backs up the "zero" talent currently on the roster, of course he didn't say it that way. He did say that the players making the most contributions during Raleigh's tenure were left over players from the Delmonico era.

In addition, I listened to Wilkerson and he was addressing the needs a new coach will have to address. He was very uncomfortable talking about it, but he said other than Gruver, we lacked the kind of pitching we need to win a weekend series in the SEC on a consistent basis. He then addressed the hitting saying that even when Gruver pitched a good game, we didn't have enough offense to out hit the competition.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
The good thing about baseball is you can bring in one class and be able to compete instanly,unlike football. Need a coach who can get in here and recruit and we will be fine.
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Some places that might be true. Corbin's getting the Tennessee player's he wants. Holbrook is similiar in terms of the Carolinas. To compete in our division, we have to go head to head with those guys. Cobb said he thought 2 or three years to get back to the SEC tourney IIRC.
 
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Also, yes Tim Corbin does make around 850k/year at Vanderbilt. And yes coaches at LSU, Texas, USCjr, Arkansas make around or even above 1 million a year after bonuses and school related endorsements are included.[/QUOTE]

As far as this is concerned, you have no idea what you're talking about. But this is the internet you can pass off whatever B.S. you choose.
 
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Well believe what you want, I know exactly what Corbin gets paid. I also know for a fact that the people I mentioned get around or above 1 million/ year, if you don't believe it it's no skin off my back.

Although one top recruiting class would help turn our program around quicker, it will not fix things and send us to the NCAA tournament necessarily... a few good classes in a row would help, but as a few have already mentioned we compete locally with Tim Corbin, who has an immaculate reputation on the recruiting trail. Rebuilding this team will not be an easy fix, and recruiting high profile kids to come to a place with not a whole lot of history, nor recent success is going to be equally as difficult even without competing against people like Corbin in Tennessee and Tanner and Mike Fox in North Carolina...
 
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MatsideObserver said:
HERE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE WHICH RAN EXACTLY ONE YEAR AGO AT LAST YEAR'S SEC TOURNAMENT:

Paul Mainieri, LSU- $625,000 ($285,000)
John Cohen, Mississippi State- $604,841 (41,667)
Mike Bianco, Ole Miss- $580,000 ($13,333)
Dave Van Horn, Arkansas- $500,508 (Not provided)
Ray Tanner, South Carolina- $500,000 ($182,500)
Dave Perno, Georgia- $425,000 ($75,660)
Kevin O'Sullivan, Florida- $300,000 ($54,000)
John Pawlowski, Auburn- $300,000 ($135,000)
Todd Raleigh, Tennessee- $295,000 ($80,000)
Gary Henderson, Kentucky- $262,000 ($31,250)
Mitch Gaspard, Alabama- $225,000 ($82,915)
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Just looking at the numbers here, for the guys being discussed. I would think for Serrano, McDonnell and even Holbrook, I think you'd be looking at the top of the league to find fair market value. Perno's package gets him to 500 G,s. and that's the middle of the pack.

O'Sullivan is great value, but if he makes some noise in the tourney, he's gonna get bumped up.

All that to say, if we offer Perno money to McDonnell (for instance) who I think is making 400,000 will he leave a good thing at Louisville to come to the SEC East?

Obviously, there are only a few candidates getting talked about in this way. Pierce for example would have a different market value. Right?
 
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