New Gallop Poll - GOP Race

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myrobbins7 said:
Why are suprised to see that?
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Me? Yeah. Kind of. Critics always dismiss Paul because he does well in unscientific polls, but this is the Gallup. Can't wait to hear my Mom (who likes Bachmann) tell me Ron Paul is unelectable, again.
 
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nbakerld said:
Me? Yeah. Kind of. Critics always dismiss Paul because he does well in unscientific polls, but this is the Gallup. Can't wait to hear my Mom (who likes Bachmann) tell me Ron Paul is unelectable, again.
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Oh I agree, I love it when some of my friends and even the media say that, but his numbers keep going up and when I ask my friends about it they are like crickets. The media... well, I don't want to get started on them. :)
 
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GOPers rallying behind the shiny new thing.

If they nominate George Bush, part deux, they get what they deserve.
 
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As an independent voter, I am pulling for a Romney-Rubio ticket. I will abstain from voting should Perry get the nomination
 
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lawgator1 said:
GOPers rallying behind the shiny new thing.

If they nominate George Bush, part deux, they get what they deserve.
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Obama? You seem to be concerned with cosmetic similarities...white, Christian, Republican governor from Texas.

I make the policy connections:

Gitmo
Multiple wars and counting
PATRIOT Act
Drug Czar
Bailouts
Unprecedented spending
Fiscally irresponsible
lack of transparency
etc.

As you can see, Bush II and Obama have a lot in common.


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Why is Rubio considered the shoe-in for the VP pick on the GOP ticket? J/C, because I've seen that a lot recently.

IDK if either would go for it, but i think Huntsman or Gingrich would be phenomenal VP choices. Huntsman with his tremendous foreign policy experience in a region that is growing rapidly. Gingrich with his political experience on the Hill and his ability to corral the Congressional members of the party.
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dreVol said:
Why is Rubio considered the shoe-in for the VP pick on the GOP ticket? J/C, because I've seen that a lot recently.

IDK if either would go for it, but i think Huntsman or Gingrich would be phenomenal VP choices. Huntsman with his tremendous foreign policy experience in a region that is growing rapidly. Gingrich with his political experience on the Hill and his ability to corral the Congressional members of the party.
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Rubio has strong conservative credentials, would generate lots of Hispanic enthusiasm for the ticket, and would really help seal the deal in Florida.

My guess is that, if Obama continues to be in trouble into next Spring, Rubio would strongly consider taking the VP slot because he'd put himself in prime position to run for POTUS a few cycles down the road.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Rubio has strong conservative credentials, would generate lots of Hispanic enthusiasm for the ticket, and would really help seal the deal in Florida.

My guess is that, if Obama continues to be in trouble into next Spring, Rubio would strongly consider taking the VP slot because he'd put himself in prime position to run for POTUS a few cycles down the road.
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Interesting. That all makes sense politically.
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Rubio has a problem, and it's one entirely created by the birthers in their zeal to have Obama Constitutionally disqualified to be President.

Those loons failed on the birth certificate so now they're reading between the lines of the 14th Amendment and saying that Obama isn't qualified because only one of his parents was a US citizen.

Rubio's parents were Cuban exiles so even though he was born in the US, according to the current birther mantra, he is not a natural born citizen.

it's all BS, of course, but the birther movement is going to get hoist on it's own petard if they don't go away, soon.
 
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MG1968 said:
Rubio has a problem, and it's one entirely created by the birthers in their zeal to have Obama Constitutionally disqualified to be President.

Those loons failed on the birth certificate so now they're reading between the lines of the 14th Amendment and saying that Obama isn't qualified because only one of his parents was a US citizen.

Rubio's parents were Cuban exiles so even though he was born in the US, according to the current birther mantra, he is not a natural born citizen.

it's all BS, of course, but the birther movement is going to get hoist on it's own petard if they don't go away, soon.
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Had not heard this claim before. And how do they get this from the 14th Amendment?
 
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Not a Gallop poll, but a poll showing just how bad things are for Obama in FL

Fla poll: Obama losing to Romney, neck and neck with Perry, Bachmann | Florida politics blog: The Buzz | tampabay.com & St. Petersburg Times

Unlike 2008, if the election were held today, President Obama would face a stiffer headwind to hold onto Florida and its 29 electoral votes against a top-tier Republican challenger - and that could cost him reelection," said Ron Sachs, President of Ron Sachs Communications. "Judging by the poll, President Obama's success in 2008 will be more difficult to duplicate in 2012. The Presidency will go to the candidate with the message that resonates with Florida's unique and diverse population and the resources to ensure that message is received by voters across the state."

Among the findings of the August Sachs/Mason-Dixon Florida Poll:

***51 percent of Floridians would vote for Governor Romney compared to 43 percent for President Obama;

***In a hypothetical matchup with Texas Governor Rick Perry, Perry leads with 46 percent to Obama's 45 percent;

***President Obama leads Congresswoman Michele Bachmann 46 percent to 44 percent; and

***41 percent of Floridians approve of President Obama's job performance while 56 percent disapprove. Fifty five percent of independents disapprove.

In April, a Sachs/Mason-Dixon poll found 51 percent of Floridians disapproving of President Obama's job performance. In that poll, Governor Romney led President Obama in a hypothetical matchup with 48 percent for Romney and 43 percent for President Obama.
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lawgator1 said:
GOPers rallying behind the shiny new thing.

If they nominate George Bush, part deux, they get what they deserve.
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Yeah. We know that will be the Dem line. OTOH, it could easily backfire. As bad as Bush was... unemployment was under 6% and the deficit was about 1/4 of what it is now. He dealt with a recession that happened to coincide with one of the worst attacks on American soil and a two front war... and in part through tax cuts grew the economy and jobs.

Someone wrote an excellent article the other day that spelled out why Obama IS the problem. He IS the uncertainty in the market because of his policies and STATED ideas regarding taxes.

So on the whole... I think you could probably sell a return to the relatively good conditions under Bush right now.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
oh well, obama will be reelected
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Better than Romney being elected and poisoning the well again for the GOP. Both Bush's were "moderates" in spite of the mischaracterization of the left. Both believed in gov't action. Both expanded programs. W's one "conservative" act was the tax cuts. I would be interested in someone pointing out any other domestic policy he had that shrunk the size and scope of gov't.

If need be, I am prepared to let the Dems be the promoters of fatally flawed policies for another 4 years. Maybe that's what it takes to wake the American people up to the utter failure of big gov't solutions. Having a big gov't "conservative" like Romney will only delay an effective solution further.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Rubio would deliver the state of FL and its 29 electoral votes on a silver platter
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GOP in Florida is really interesting. On the one hand, the economy is so shattered, and in particular housing is just dead down here, that economics will be a huge issue. On the other hand, if there was ever a state where the Dems can probably get some real traction on GOP plans for Medicare and SS reform, Florida has to be it.



sjt18 said:
Yeah. We know that will be the Dem line. OTOH, it could easily backfire. As bad as Bush was... unemployment was under 6% and the deficit was about 1/4 of what it is now. He dealt with a recession that happened to coincide with one of the worst attacks on American soil and a two front war... and in part through tax cuts grew the economy and jobs.

Someone wrote an excellent article the other day that spelled out why Obama IS the problem. He IS the uncertainty in the market because of his policies and STATED ideas regarding taxes.

So on the whole... I think you could probably sell a return to the relatively good conditions under Bush right now.
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Meh, the problem is that folks just lost respect for him in the last 2 years of his term in office. I don't think the guy is really hated or anything. Just viewed as sort of a boob.


BeecherVol said:
LG, is it troubling that Obama and Bachmann are essentially neck and neck in your state?

For the rousing she gets in general that is kinda surprising.
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They haven't run the ads yet on Medicare and SS. Let's see the polls a month or so after that starts up.
 
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