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tabrams

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#1
Ok, our lineups are really horrendous right now.......here's a possible solution to our offensive woes:

1st Team -- 2nd Team -- 3rd Team

PG - Melvin Goins - Trae Golden - Josh Bone
SG - Hopson - Josh Bone - Skylar
SF - Tatum - Hopson - Woolridge
PF - Tobias Harris - Maymon - Hall - Pearl (for Gimmick)
C - B. Williams - Hall/ Fields

I think it goes down something like this:

Play Josh Bone more......Play Skylar a lot less...... Give Hopson more minutes at the 3, so Bone gets on floor more.....if Golden is playing like trash, then put Bone at Point guard.....Woolridge needs some minutes at the 3, he seriously can't be worse at times than the others...... Maymon and Hall need minutes, period.....Pearl is only used for defensive gimmicks and energy uplifting......Fields gets minutes taken away until he learns how to rebound and box out......

I don't know if this solves anything, but putting guys on the floor who continue to suck and make the same mistakes over and over again is counterproductive.....
 
#2
#2
I really think we are misusing our talent and blatantly distributing minutes incorrectly! Also, we keep taking out players that are on a roll and killing the team's momentum, like tonight when we cut the lead down to 10 with 10 minutes left!

Here's how my line-up would look:
PG: Goins / Golden
SG: Hopson / Bone (Skylar in on 3-point situations & garbage-time only)
SF: Tatum / Bone (Woolridge benched)
PF: Harris / Maymon & Hall (Pearl in on defensive situations & garbage-time only)
C: Williams / Fields (Hall in for small-ball and full-court press situations)

I am also not against inserting Bone in the starting line-up until Tatum can break out of his slump! Bone can hit open shots and plays the best defensive of all the guards on the team!

Also, Hall desperately needs more minutes... He really was key down the stretch late last year!

...Also, Mcbee possesses only one strength which is his shooting, but is currently shooting approximately 30%, the worst on the team! Therefore, he should be benched immediately! No exceptions!

I love Pearl's energy and defensive presence but is too much of a liability on the floor for a unnecessary foul or a pivotal turnover! The team can really learn from his defensive enthusiasm!
 
#3
#3
I dont care what the lineup looks like just as long as it doesnt include S. Pearl of McBrick. Both of them make me sick
 
#4
#4
btrotter said:
I dont care what the lineup looks like just as long as it doesnt include S. Pearl of McBrick. Both of them make me sick
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They are ok on Defense when winning by 5-10 pts but down 5-20 need to be on the bench.
 
#5
#5
BigOrangeArsenal said:
I really think we are misusing our talent and blatantly distributing minutes incorrectly! Also, we keep taking out players that are on a roll and killing the team's momentum, like tonight when we cut the lead down to 10 with 10 minutes left!

Here's how my line-up would look:
PG: Goins / Golden
SG: Hopson / Bone (Skylar in on 3-point situations & garbage-time only)
SF: Tatum / Bone (Woolridge benched)
PF: Harris / Maymon & Hall (Pearl in on defensive situations & garbage-time only)
C: Williams / Fields (Hall in for small-ball and full-court press situations)

Looks much better....also, we should have a "small-ball" pressing line-up......
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#6
#6
The funny thing is we always start horribly on offense, and to fix that bring more defensive players. thats on CP and TJ
 
#7
#7
We have 4 four star players who are not even in the 10 man rotation. The scouting on SP & SM in this thread are spot on. Golden sure looks like a fish outta water more and more as PG too. He need minutes there for next yr tho. Craft & Selby crushed us @ PG.
 
#9
#9
btrotter said:
I dont care what the lineup looks like just as long as it doesnt include S. Pearl of McBrick. Both of them make me sick
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awesome stat line:

Steven Pearl - 10 min. - 0 points, 1 rebound, 1 foul, 2 Turnovers

Skylar Mcbee - 10 min. - -0 points, 0 rebounds, 2 fouls, 2 steals

Trae Golden - 9 min. - 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assist, 1 Turnover

Total - in 29 min. these bozo's had:
0 points, 1 rebound, 3 fouls, 2 steals, 3 Turnovers

That's an awesome Bench Rotation!! :eek:lol: :eek:lol: :eek:lol:
 
#10
#10
I wouldn't mind seeing Goins, Hopson, Harris, Fields, and Williams start one time, and run a half court offense with this line up. We need to try something different for sure.

Hall, Maymon, and Bone should be getting in the rotation much more.

You could tell from the start that Tatum was going to have a bad game, and yet the coaches stuck with him. Harris didn't have his head in the game either. I understand having a bad shooting night, but I don't understand players not blocking out, or switching on D. There should never be a excuse for not hustling.

This team is lacks chemistry. These players are not willing to make the extra pass to wide open players on many occasions. Fundamentally there is lots of work that needs to be done.

GO VOLS
 
#11
#11
The thing i don't get about Pearl's substitutions is that he brings in McBrick and Pearl when they need to sustain offense, not to guard or give fouls. They bring hardly anything offensively so the timing on his substitutions are puzzling. Maybe Bruce is trying to get fired.
 
#12
#12
Cartervol said:
The thing i don't get about Pearl's substitutions is that he brings in McBrick and Pearl when they need to sustain offense, not to guard or give fouls. They bring hardly anything offensively so the timing on his substitutions are puzzling. Maybe Bruce is trying to get fired.
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It almost looks like it.
 
#13
#13
tabrams said:
Ok, our lineups are really horrendous right now.......here's a possible solution to our offensive woes:

1st Team -- 2nd Team -- 3rd Team

PG - Melvin Goins - Trae Golden - Josh Bone
SG - Hopson - Josh Bone - Skylar
SF - Tatum - Hopson - Woolridge
PF - Tobias Harris - Maymon - Hall - Pearl (for Gimmick)
C - B. Williams - Hall/ Fields

I think it goes down something like this:

Play Josh Bone more......Play Skylar a lot less...... Give Hopson more minutes at the 3, so Bone gets on floor more.....if Golden is playing like trash, then put Bone at Point guard.....Woolridge needs some minutes at the 3, he seriously can't be worse at times than the others...... Maymon and Hall need minutes, period.....Pearl is only used for defensive gimmicks and energy uplifting......Fields gets minutes taken away until he learns how to rebound and box out......

I don't know if this solves anything, but putting guys on the floor who continue to suck and make the same mistakes over and over again is counterproductive.....
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I think Pearl is too important to team chemistry. The games where he has logged the most minutes our record reflects this. His minutes went down when Maymon got into the rotation and the Vols started losing to the Charlottes and Oaklands of the world. Jones used him more when his dad was out and the Vols won 5 SEC games in a row.
 
#14
#14
forget the offense, it's generally going to suck as has our halfcourt O for the entirety of Pearl's tenure. If we don't play defense, as we did early in the season, we aren't going to win anything. Our defense has fallen to utter trash. Resembles the halfcourt D that our pressing outfits used to play.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
forget the offense, it's generally going to suck as has our halfcourt O for the entirety of Pearl's tenure. If we don't play defense, as we did early in the season, we aren't going to win anything. Our defense has fallen to utter trash. Resembles the halfcourt D that our pressing outfits used to play.
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Agreed, what happened to the smothering defense we saw against Pitt and Nova?
 
#16
#16
BigPapaVol said:
forget the offense, it's generally going to suck as has our halfcourt O for the entirety of Pearl's tenure. If we don't play defense, as we did early in the season, we aren't going to win anything. Our defense has fallen to utter trash. Resembles the halfcourt D that our pressing outfits used to play.
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along with sustained effort, intensity and rebounding.
 
#17
#17
JZVOL said:
along with sustained effort, intensity and rebounding.
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exactly. To me, all the stuff that requires hardcore demand from coaching absolutely suffers on our teams. We had one stretch where we appeared coached and that was late last season. Otherwise, it appears we do what we please.
 
#18
#18
BigPapaVol said:
exactly. To me, all the stuff that requires hardcore demand from coaching absolutely suffers on our teams. We had one stretch where we appeared coached and that was late last season. Otherwise, it appears we do what we please.
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"nailed it"
 
#19
#19
Golden Goins Bone
Tatum McRae Bone McSuck
Hopson Swiper Bone
Tobias Hall Maymon
Williams Fields Maymon

BP's internal double standards with this team are annoying and a huge problem. If he applied the same standards to Harris, Williams, and Hopson, this would be a better team. I believe much of the dissention on the team is due to favortism. What incentive do the bench guys (that should be playing) have if they see the starters and subs ahead of them NOT getting benched for the same reasons(mistakes) they are?

I'm still terribly confused why No Hands isn't at the 3 and Tatum at the 2. Their style and skills fit better there and it would minimize fumbling. Oh well, for them to play like that last night and the some lineup garbage to continue considering the circumstances, I say it's time to fire Bruce Pearl. That slop last night is NOT ACCEPTABLE!
 
#20
#20
beachvol23 said:
Golden Goins Bone
Tatum McRae Bone McSuck
Hopson Swiper Bone
Tobias Hall Maymon
Williams Fields Maymon

BP's internal double standards with this team are annoying and a huge problem. If he applied the same standards to Harris, Williams, and Hopson, this would be a better team. I believe much of the dissention on the team is due to favortism. What incentive do the bench guys (that should be playing) have if they see the starters and subs ahead of them NOT getting benched for the same reasons(mistakes) they are?

I'm still terribly confused why No Hands isn't at the 3 and Tatum at the 2. Their style and skills fit better there and it would minimize fumbling. Oh well, for them to play like that last night and the some lineup garbage to continue considering the circumstances, I say it's time to fire Bruce Pearl. That slop last night is NOT ACCEPTABLE!
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McRae would never be played ahead of Bone.
 
#21
#21
allvol said:
I think Pearl is too important to team chemistry. The games where he has logged the most minutes our record reflects this. His minutes went down when Maymon got into the rotation and the Vols started losing to the Charlottes and Oaklands of the world. Jones used him more when his dad was out and the Vols won 5 SEC games in a row.
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Dont agree...The team lacks motivation and effort and this could be because CBP playing incapable players.
 
#23
#23
Vol Fans, it's time to face it; we are NOT as talented a team as in the past.
1. Poor shooting team. This team has no consistent 3pt shooter except Hopson; as a team we're barely above 30% from long range. No Chris Lofton or Juwan-type shooters from deep. And we can't even hit the 3-5 footers down low.
2. No consistent post play. Brian Williams occasionally has a decent game, but if you want to compete with the best, you must have two consistent post players. At this point, I wouldn't say Tobias is consistent down low either.
3. Lack of rebounding against opponents with equal size. John Fields tries to block every shot that is thrown up which puts him out of position for the rebound and = a rebound and easy put back for the other team. Scotty and Cam occasionally rebound, but how many times have they let the ball slip out of their hands when there's not even a defender around trying to take the ball away?
4. Free Throw shooting - again, no consistency....
5. Sense of entitlement - Pearl's teams have had such success early on at UT that it looks like they've lost that underdog mentality, which they'll need for the rest of the year.

I predict NIT for this team this year. Hope I'm wrong, but it might actually help them realize you can't just show up and expect to be given anything.
 
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#24
#24
This team is messed up on so many levels. Effort and consistency on the players. Substitution issues with the coaches, and the NCAA hanging a bolder on everyone's shoulders. On PAPER, and star levels, this should be a much better team than the results show. Before the season, I said we would miss Wayne, JP, and Bobby more than most might think. The talent level is no where near what it was rated. Internal issues with the players vs. playing time. It's a disfuntional family team for sure. I think this is pretty much a lost season only in the sense most of us thought it was going to be a great season especially after Pittsburg and Villanova.

I'm seriously concerned about the next 1 - 4 seasons depending on what the NCAA dishes out. Next year, we've got only 1 true big, Hall, and 2 semi-bigs in Harris and Maymon. Even Hall is more of a PF/C. We'll get creamed in the paint next year even if the NCAA doesn't slam us. There are a couple of very good possible bigs in Stokes and Parker in 2012, but we won't get them if we get major sanctions. A decent JC big would help some next year, but not enough to make a major difference. Plus, we should have an upgrade at PG if Jones actually makes it in.

Whether Bruce stays or goes, I think we're looking at 2 to 4 years of subpar teams at best. I know this offers no solutions, and it's all negative. I Love UT FB and BB to the point getting sick every time we lose a game, and think Bruce has been a huge positive impact on UT BB, but it looks like some hard times ahead regardless. I'm stating the obvious, but just preparing myself for the reality that is likely to come. Wish it was all a bad dream.
 
#25
#25
tabrams said:
awesome stat line:

Steven Pearl - 10 min. - 0 points, 1 rebound, 1 foul, 2 Turnovers

Skylar Mcbee - 10 min. - -0 points, 0 rebounds, 2 fouls, 2 steals

Trae Golden - 9 min. - 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assist, 1 Turnover

Total - in 29 min. these bozo's had:
0 points, 1 rebound, 3 fouls, 2 steals, 3 Turnovers

That's an awesome Bench Rotation!! :eek:lol: :eek:lol: :eek:lol:
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blow this up like 30x and bring it to the next game
 
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