New Ohio voting law - what impact?

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These are certainly troubling issues:

Ohio elections officials say they are working out potential kinks, such as questions about whether a vote counts when it is cast or when it's counted. They also are trying to address potential fears of massive voting fraud, and what effect this influx is going to mean on vote security.
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The voting window, so far, is only being implemented in some counties — typically, urban areas or those with college campuses — leading Republicans to cry foul.
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And it's hard not to agree with this sentiment:

"You have to wonder, when they look at what they consider a loophole with such excitement," said Jason Mauk, the Ohio Republican Party's executive director. "That would suggest manipulating the process, and I think opens the door to suspicion."
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incredible potential for fraud.

You should have to show a photo ID to vote, or have some other way to prove who you are.
 
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We should make efforts to allow all eligible voters access to vote, regardless of where they're located.
 
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Considering the thread was posted by an Obama supporter, I thought it would be some law that would make voters make their vote public knowledge.
 
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TennNC said:
We should make efforts to allow all eligible voters access to vote, regardless of where they're located.
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No doubt - but:

1. Is it appropriate to use this technique only in some areas as indicated in the article?

2. Do you really think that Dems are for this simply for voter access reasons or do they think it helps their voting block more than the Rep voting block?
 
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So are they going to do everything that needs to be done to make sure that voters are eligible to vote?
 
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volinbham said:
No doubt - but:

1. Is it appropriate to use this technique only in some areas as indicated in the article?

2. Do you really think that Dems are for this simply for voter access reasons or do they think it helps their voting block more than the Rep voting block?
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1. no - it should be done everywhere, and I think and hope it will be.

2. of course not, but that doesn't matter. if they do it everywhere, they'll come out on top, b/c the majority of those who have the least access and awareness of voting are most likely to vote dem. get out the vote!
 
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TennNC said:
2. of course not, but that doesn't matter. if they do it everywhere, they'll come out on top, b/c the majority of those who have the least access and awareness of voting are most likely to vote dem. get out the vote!
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Where do you draw the line on influencing votes from those who had no intention to vote (e.g. rounding up people and taking them to the polls).

Surely some of this is manipulative no?
 
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volinbham said:
Where do you draw the line on influencing votes from those who had no intention to vote (e.g. rounding up people and taking them to the polls).

Surely some of this is manipulative no?
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I'd rather err on the side of influencing one to vote who doesn't vote (getting them involved) than preventing people who want to vote and are eligible to vote from voting.

(i'm "voted" out after that graf)
 
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TennNC said:
I'd rather err on the side of influencing one to vote who doesn't vote (getting them involved) than preventing people who want to vote and are eligible to vote from voting.

(i'm "voted" out after that graf)
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Who is doing this?
 
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TennNC said:
I'd rather err on the side of influencing one to vote who doesn't vote (getting them involved) than preventing people who want to vote and are eligible to vote from voting.

Let's balance this out - people aren't "prevented" from voting. It may be more of a hassle or inconvenience or effort but prevention is a strong word.
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That being said, I don't see that influencing someone to vote who had no intention to somehow a preferrable situation to having inconvenient voting procedures. Neither is a good situation.
 
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TennNC said:
I'd rather err on the side of influencing one to vote who doesn't vote (getting them involved) than preventing people who want to vote and are eligible to vote from voting.

(i'm "voted" out after that graf)
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nothing prevents anyone from signing up a bit before the election. If someone doesn't know when it's happening then I'm pretty sure I don't want them voting since they seem to have zero communication to the outside world.

If the only thing they do in the electoral process is go to a polling station on the day of the election are they truly "involved"?
 
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If you read the article, a major goal is to get students at universities to vote since they generally have low turn-out. No one is preventing students from voting - they are simply not motivated. I can see it now, Obama teams giving out free pizza and suggesting that you step over there first. Ah, democracy!
 
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volinbham said:
That being said, I don't see that influencing someone to vote who had no intention to somehow a preferrable situation to having inconvenient voting procedures. Neither is a good situation.
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what's the difference btwn this and missionary/evangelism work?

the early bird...
 
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volinbham said:
If you read the article, a major goal is to get students at universities to vote since they generally have low turn-out. No one is preventing students from voting - they are simply not motivated. I can see it now, Obama teams giving out free pizza and suggesting that you step over there first. Ah, democracy!
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hey it works for the credit card companies and look where that got us
 
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utvolpj said:
hey it works for the credit card companies and look where that got us
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Amen brother. I feel like going all "Jesus and the money changers" when I see those tables set up on campus. Except I would use extreme prejudice ala Van Damme or Segal :p

Amazing what students will do for a crappy T-shirt or water bottle.
 
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Obama ain't gonna win Ohio anyway. All of these cries of "voter fraud" are pure BS propagated by ppl who are trying to de-legitimize a potential Obama victory. The democrats wrote the book on this tactic with their ridiculous claims of vote-counting fraud in 2000 and 2004. They looked like a bunch of whiners then. Do we really want to look like a bunch of lefty conspiracy nuts? Just count the votes and stop whining. We'll be fine.
 
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TennNC said:
1. no - it should be done everywhere, and I think and hope it will be.

2. of course not, but that doesn't matter. if they do it everywhere, they'll come out on top, b/c the majority of those who have the least access and awareness of voting are most likely to vote dem. get out the vote!
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Unfortunately, I think that is a true statement.
 
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