New SEC scheduling

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bleedingTNorange

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Apparently going to go with one permanent opponent that you play twice a year. Tennessee and Vanderbilt are paired together and will play twice a year. It's going to be an 18 game schedule so I really am not sure how they're gonna do the other 16 games between 12 teams.

Also, the top 4 teams at the end of the season will get a double bye.

This is my understanding, hopefully it becomes official and cleared up soon.
 
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Here's how the schedule works: each team plays every other team in the league once (13 game) and a permanent opponent twice.(14)

Last four games on the schedule: rotate two opponents from each former division (East and West) every three years.(15,16,17&18)

Here are other proposed permanent hoop opponents: Alabama-AU; Mizzou-Arky; Ole Miss-MSU; USC-Georgia; and Texas A&M-LSU

Top four teams at end of the regular season will get double byes in the SEC basketball tournament, which will start on Wednesday now.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Here's how the schedule works: each team plays every other team in the league once (13 game) and a permanent opponent twice.(14)

Last four games on the schedule: rotate two opponents from each former division (East and West) every three years.(15,16,17&18)

Here are other proposed permanent hoop opponents: Alabama-AU; Mizzou-Arky; Ole Miss-MSU; USC-Georgia; and Texas A&M-LSU

Top four teams at end of the regular season will get double byes in the SEC basketball tournament, which will start on Wednesday now.
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These are still just proposals right? I was listening a couple of hours ago and I got the impression nothing had yet been finalized.
 
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zansdad said:
These are still just proposals right? I was listening a couple of hours ago and I got the impression nothing had yet been finalized.
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Correct, but official word is expected by Friday. This seems to be the format that's being agreed upon most.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Correct, but official word is expected by Friday. This seems to be the format that's being agreed upon most.
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I can't decide which is a bigger mess, the fact that they are basically keeping divisional play without calling it that, or the double bye tourney. Those first 2 games on Wednesday are going to be hard to watch. Also, I wonder how long it will take someone to start whining about getting the double bye ala Beohiem at Syracuse.
 
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zansdad said:
I can't decide which is a bigger mess, the fact that they are basically keeping divisional play without calling it that, or the double bye tourney. Those first 2 games on Wednesday are going to be hard to watch. Also, I wonder how long it will take someone to start whining about getting the double bye ala Beohiem at Syracuse.
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How are they keeping divisional? You play everybody once and have one permanent opponent/rival that you'll play twice.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
How are they keeping divisional? You play everybody once and have one permanent opponent/rival that you'll play twice.
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I completely misread what you typed. I got it now.

It will be interesting to see how the math lines up with their being 7 teams in the "other" division that are being rotated while only 5 teams in each teams old division. All the old SEC east teams will still get UK and Florida more than the old SEC west teams will. But only slightly so.
 
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zansdad said:
I completely misread what you typed. I got it now.

It will be interesting to see how the math lines up with their being 7 teams in the "other" division that are being rotated while only 5 teams in each teams old division. All the old SEC east teams will still get UK and Florida more than the old SEC west teams will. But only slightly so.
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That's true didn't think about that, as you said it'll be pretty slight though.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Here are other proposed permanent hoop opponents: Alabama-AU; Mizzou-Arky; Ole Miss-MSU; USC-Georgia; and Texas A&M-LSU
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Rivalry games are pretty much closest opponent until you're left with UK vs Florida.

Assuming UT is team #1 of 5 from the old east format- UK would play you twice - once - twice - once -once. I think. Another words we play twice in two years out of five. Is that the way you guys interpret the proposal?
 
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CatsQueue said:
Rivalry games are pretty much closest opponent until you're left with UK vs Florida.

Assuming UT is team #1 of 5 from the old east format- UK would play you twice - once - twice - once -once. I think. Another words we play twice in two years out of five. Is that the way you guys interpret the proposal?
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I'm not sure how they're going to decide the sequence in which you play the former east teams.
 
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LittleCat said:
I'd rather play them twice imo (if i were ut)
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Those are my thoughts too. The benefits of playing UK twice a season greatly outweigh the downside in my opinion. UT beating UK does way more good than the loss to UK does bad (make any sense) playing them twice just gives UT an extra shot at that win.
 
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GatorsGators said:
I'm assuming UK-UF will be the permanent matchup for the two teams. It makes the most sense from a TV-ratings perspective.
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Random question, I wonder who UK fans and administration wanted as their rivalry game or was Florida their 1st choice?

UF-UK looks good now but it doesn't really feel right. I would think UF-UGA is a bigger rivalry, although in recent seasons it has been lopsided.

IMO UK has more OOC rivalries than in, Louisville, Indiana and North Carolina probably all move the needle more in Lexington than anyone in the SEC outside of UT and UF (and UF only because of the recent success under Donavon)
 
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zansdad said:
Random question, I wonder who UK fans and administration wanted as their rivalry game or was Florida their 1st choice?

UF-UK looks good now but it doesn't really feel right. I would think UF-UGA is a bigger rivalry, although in recent seasons it has been lopsided.

IMO UK has more OOC rivalries than in, Louisville, Indiana and North Carolina probably all move the needle more in Lexington than anyone in the SEC outside of UT and UF (and UF only because of the recent success under Donavon)
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I think most UK fans would have been okay with UF, UT or Vandy. Not so much if it had been a team from the remainder of the conference.

As far as rivalries the UL, IU and UNC games are pretty much it. A multi-year deal is in talks with Duke as well. SEC games are just that - conference games. Some obviously bigger than others but not the same as the OOC rivals.
 
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Tiered Rotation is the way to schedule and will give UT the opportunity to play the best conference teams home-and-home each year. Here's how it works in the Big East:

Big East ponders conference scheduling with eye toward incoming teams - college basketball - ESPN

Look at how many teams the Big East puts into the Tournament due in large part to the RPI advantage of "the-best-playing-the-best".

Here's how the-best-playing-the-best tiered rotation would likely work this coming year for UT.

Home-and-Home - 5 Total
Fixed Rival (1): Vandy
Best Playing Best Home and Home (4): Kentucky, Florida, Missouri, Alabama


New SEC Basketball Schedule: How a Tiered Rotation Might Work - Rocky Top Talk
 
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I like the tiered system, I think Zans brought it up awhile ago. Seeing it on paper I like it, and I hope we go with that system.
 
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I hope the schedule an OOC game with UK for the years they're only on the schedule once.
 
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Well, hopefully we will schedule KY as our rotating Home /Away series early because the schedule format will probably change again in a couple years when the SEC expands again.
 
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johnnybravo said:
Well, hopefully we will schedule KY as our rotating Home /Away series early because the schedule format will probably change again in a couple years when the SEC expands again.
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If you're referring to the one home/away opponent every year, that's going to be Vanderbilt. We will be playing KY once a year, unless cal decides to play us as an OOC game every year, which is about as likely to happen as hell freezing over.
 
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johnnybravo said:
Well, hopefully we will schedule KY as our rotating Home /Away series early because the schedule format will probably change again in a couple years when the SEC expands again.
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If they go to 16 teams there is a pretty good chance they would go to a 4 division format. UT, UK, Vandy, plus 1 more team (dependent on who the 2 expansion teams are) would probably be the North division. that would have UT back to playing UK twice a year again.
 
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