New York passes sweeping "Right to Repair" bill

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New York state senate passes sweeping right to repair bill

"The bill includes provisions that nails down practical access for consumers repairing their own devices, for everything from budget smartphones to quarter-million-dollar farm tractors, and allows them to hire third-party repair personnel if they lack the technical capability. The Digital Fair Repair Act requires manufacturers to supply repair instructions, replacement parts (if available), and necessary tools in order to make repairs possible."

I bet the replacement parts and tools will be severely overpriced to inhibit self-repair, prompting more lawsuits against hardware manufacturers.
 
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AshG said:
New York state senate passes sweeping right to repair bill

"The bill includes provisions that nails down practical access for consumers repairing their own devices, for everything from budget smartphones to quarter-million-dollar farm tractors, and allows them to hire third-party repair personnel if they lack the technical capability. The Digital Fair Repair Act requires manufacturers to supply repair instructions, replacement parts (if available), and necessary tools in order to make repairs possible."

I bet the replacement parts and tools will be severely overpriced to inhibit self-repair, prompting more lawsuits against hardware manufacturers.
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Isn't there a thread already devoted to this subject????
 
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What's stopping other companies from supplying repair parts? I have a lot of friends and family who refuse to buy anything other than Apple, and that's bound to lead to non-competitive practices. I love my Motorola.
 
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AshG said:
New York state senate passes sweeping right to repair bill

"The bill includes provisions that nails down practical access for consumers repairing their own devices, for everything from budget smartphones to quarter-million-dollar farm tractors, and allows them to hire third-party repair personnel if they lack the technical capability. The Digital Fair Repair Act requires manufacturers to supply repair instructions, replacement parts (if available), and necessary tools in order to make repairs possible."

I bet the replacement parts and tools will be severely overpriced to inhibit self-repair, prompting more lawsuits against hardware manufacturers.
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Car manufactures and in particular, certain foreign car manufacturers will hate this. Special tools are required for a lot of jobs these days on vehicles. BMW and others are removing dipsticks and sealing engines. If you think you have a leak, you can't check your oil. You have to take it to the shop. Complete BS.

I don't like government intervention on matters like this, but at least this is only the state level, and it will be very interesting to watch. Any company that actually cares about their customers should not need a government mandate to provide the best service that they can. If it costs more, charge more. Most people won't mind paying a little more if they are actually taken care of.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Car manufactures and in particular, certain foreign car manufacturers will hate this. Special tools are required for a lot of jobs these days on vehicles. BMW and others are removing dipsticks and sealing engines. If you think you have a leak, you can't check your oil. You have to take it to the shop. Complete BS.

I don't like government intervention on matters like this, but at least this is only the state level, and it will be very interesting to watch. Any company that actually cares about their customers should not need a government mandate to provide the best service that they can. If it costs more, charge more. Most people won't mind paying a little more if they are actually taken care of.
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That's the point though. This is an industry/market wide collusion to artificially boost their sales and revenues. Planned obsolescence to ensure we have to keep buying.

They make more keeping us buying new
every year-ish than they would from selling repair kits and us getting new every five/ten years.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Car manufactures and in particular, certain foreign car manufacturers will hate this. Special tools are required for a lot of jobs these days on vehicles. BMW and others are removing dipsticks and sealing engines. If you think you have a leak, you can't check your oil. You have to take it to the shop. Complete BS.

I don't like government intervention on matters like this, but at least this is only the state level, and it will be very interesting to watch. Any company that actually cares about their customers should not need a government mandate to provide the best service that they can. If it costs more, charge more. Most people won't mind paying a little more if they are actually taken care of.
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Bmw is a joke of a car. Id never buy one. I say let the market decide. If bmw will do stupid stuff, people will quit buying their cars.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
You mean i am breaking the law if i fix something myself?
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Not exactly. But for certain repairs, some companies will not sell you the part unless you pay them to install it for you. And in the case of Apple, if you order batteries directly from their battery manufacturer, Apple will have Customs Enforcement confiscate the product en route.
 
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Volgolfer1618 said:
Bmw is a joke of a car. Id never buy one. I say let the market decide. If bmw will do stupid stuff, people will quit buying their cars.
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Generally speaking, a lot of foreign cars are over rated, and pretty much all Japanese vehicles are ugly. I couldn't pay hard earned money for something that offensive to the eyes. Add to that, only certain models are near the top of their class. All their larger vehicles are inferior to their American competition.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Generally speaking, a lot of foreign cars are over rated, and pretty much all Japanese vehicles are ugly. I couldn't pay hard earned money for something that offensive to the eyes. Add to that, only certain models are near the top of their class. All their larger vehicles are inferior to their American competition.
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norrislakevol said:
Generally speaking, a lot of foreign cars are over rated, and pretty much all Japanese vehicles are ugly. I couldn't pay hard earned money for something that offensive to the eyes. Add to that, only certain models are near the top of their class. All their larger vehicles are inferior to their American competition.
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There is nothing uglier than a full-size Chevy pickup except a full-size GMC.
 
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MG1968 said:
There is nothing uglier than a full-size Chevy pickup except a full-size GMC.
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The brand new model Silverados are definitely ugly. The Chevy Silverados models before that (2019 and on back) were the best looking trucks they had made in a while. Who ever came up with the 2020 body style should be fired. The back ends look kind of like Toyotas. Rule number 1 is if you want something to look good, never copy Toyota.
 
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This is another good move by the Biden Administration. This protects public safety and also the ability of the manufactures and government to monitor vehicles without interfering with the owners use. Just because you purchase and own something it doesn't give you the right to dig into it's proprietary workings to repair it.

Biden’s NHTSA Just Killed Your Right to Repair Your Own Truck
 
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as always the government isn't concerned about people's actual security or privacy; they are only worried about maintaining their monopoly on spying and controlling.
 
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