News Flash: Saban Is A Liar

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rexvol

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DAVIE, Fla. -- The rookie's arm has been moved higher overhead, his stride shortened and his shoulder closed some to smooth a first-summer flaw in the throwing motion.

"To keep the ball from sailing," Pat White says.

But that mind. No one is tinkering too much with that.

There's no need.


"I only needed one team to believe," White said.

You can go to distant history of his junior high and early high school years, too, when he competed against the coach's son at quarterback. He was the backup each season. He never gave up. His junior year he was named the starter.

"The coach came to our house then and said some things had been said and done through the years and wanted to apologize," said White's father, James. "I just said, 'Don't mistreat my child.' Which he never did."

But the quintessential Pat White story, the one that covers the whole file of quarterback questions and smart decisions came during his college recruitment. He initially chose Louisiana State. It was close to his home of Daphne, Ala. It was the team he followed as a kid. His mom was pushing it.

LSU recruited White as an, "athlete," and he knew what that meant. Quarterback wasn't promised. It probably wasn't even on the radar. But when West Virginia began recruiting White only as a quarterback and had a spread offense to custom-fit his skills, LSU changed its tune.

Its coach told White he could play quarterback.

"I didn't think they were being honest," White says.

Its coach also said the previous year's top quarterback recruit, JaMarcus Russell, might not have the brains to play quarterback. Like White, Russell was from the Mobile, Ala., area. He knew Russell.

"I thought, 'If they were going to say that about him to me, what were they going to say about me to a [recruit] a year from now?' " White says. "I just didn't trust what I was being told."

So White went to West Virginia, started four years, won four bowl games and set records as a passer and a runner.

But here's the kicker to that story: The LSU coach was Nick Saban, the guy who took lying to a new level a few years later as Dolphins coach.

So give White points for figuring in a few weeks what it took everyone in South Florida a few years to understand. But then White has always been a quick read, as well as hard of hearing to detractors.

"Everywhere he goes people have said he couldn't do this and couldn't do that," says James White. "Couldn't beat out his competition in high school. Wasn't a big-time college player. It's the same in the NFL. But I love it when people tell him what he can't do."

It required a bit of unconventional thinking to draft White in the second round at quarterback.

White isn't the NFL prototype: a 6-foot left-hander who played entirely from the shotgun formation in college. At the Senior Bowl in January, he had trouble handling snaps from center early in the practice week. But on game day, he was the Most Valuable Player.
 
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Coaches lie to recruits all the time. Like Kiffin telling the freshmen they'd get the first shot in camp....wait....he's doing that...
 
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White thought NS was lying about letting him play QB-- or lying about Russell's brain-power? See Oakland.:popcorn:
 
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Between Saban and Meyer, Saban is the bigger liar (though Meyer can give him a run for his money) and Meyer is the bigger douche bag.

IMO.
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Between Saban and Meyer, Saban is the bigger liar (though Meyer can give him a run for his money) and Meyer is the bigger douche bag.

IMO.
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They're both near or at the top of both categories, IMO.
 
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Kiffin may not have lied to the recruits who came in this year, but it was in clear view for anyone to see that freshmen were going to get a legit shot.

While I'm sure some coaches may play more dirty than others (Cal), don't kid yourself and think Kiffin and Co. won't ever lie to a recruit to get them to come to TN. That said, everyone knows Saban does this. I thought Chris Jordan, who we were going after in 2008, wanted to play RB in college, so they told him he would have a fair shot at it only to almost immediately move him LB permanently. And Lance Thompson would have been involved in that, too.
 
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Saban is the perfect example of, if you win, you can basically do and say whatever you want, and get away with it. Noone mentions how he bold face lied to his players at LSU about leaving, his players and EVERYONE else when he left the Dolphins, etc.
 
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Is saban being a liar really news? I though everyone pretty much knew that already, even his players.
 
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This just in, water is wet and you can drown in it if it's deep and you can't swim.
 
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And apparently there's a new coach that's coming to Tennessee. But there's no way Fulmer could get fired. :crazy:
 
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Guys, Vol fans pointing at other SEC coaches in a negative manner is laughable. Last I heard, Kiffen was the UT coach.
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saban+liar
 
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Saban lied:confused:
Wow I am shocked, seriously you could knock me over with a feather right now. The greatest thing ever since the sainted Bear, would never utter a falsehood.
 
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Guys, Vol fans pointing at other SEC coaches in a negative manner is laughable. Last I heard, Kiffen was the UT coach.
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I work in a collegiate retail store part time and the concensus is that 90% of opposing fans really truly believe that Kiffin is an idiot and that they know more about football than he does. A Florida fan told me yesterday we would win ONE game this season, and was 100% serious.
 

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