Next battle on the horizon.

#3
#3
All I been hearing about is the problem with Asian carp, maybe we can combine amnesty for illegals with eliminating the Asian carp.

Drop a couple hundreds illegals off in the lake and if they can make their way back to the bank with 30lbs of Asian carp they get amnesty. Get two birds stoned at once
 
#9
#9
I assume by "free healthcare" you mean "emergency rooms".

It's a misnomer. He means the healthcare insurance provided by BPV. Technically, the provider is paid, but the recipient of the provider's time and expertise won't have paid a dime for the care or the coverage. It's a sweet deal for the recipient. The underfunded doc and BPV get hammered however.
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#10
#10
Don't get me wrong Mn. If you want to tote the note on that, knock yourself out. Im good.
 
#11
#11
I assume by "free healthcare" you mean "emergency rooms".

From a Florida ER doctor:

“I live and work in a state overrun with illegals. They make more money having kids than we earn working full-time. Today I had a 25-year old with 8 kids - that’s right 8; all illegal anchor babies and she had the nicest nails, cell phone, hand bag, clothing, etc. She makes about $1,500 monthly for each; you do the math. I used to say, “We are the dumbest nation on earth.”

Now I must say and sadly admit: WE are the dumbest people on earth (that includes ME) for we elected the idiot idealogues who have passed the bills that allow this. Sorry, but we need a revolution. Vote them all out in 2010. “

This is an insult to all of us...

If the immigrant is over 65, they can apply for SSI and Medicaid and get more than a woman on Social Security, who worked from 1944 until 2004.

She is only getting $791 per month because she was born in 1924 and there’s a ‘catch 22.’

It is interesting that the federal government provides a single refugee with a monthly allowance of $1,890. Each can also obtain an additional $580 in social assistance, for a total of $2,470 a month.

This compares to a single pensioner, who after contributing to the growth and development of America for 40 to 50 years, can only receive a monthly maximum of $1,012 in old age pension and Guaranteed Income Supplement.

Maybe our pensioners should apply as refugees!
 
#12
#12
Don't forget the rest, gs.

Consider sending this to all your American friends, so we can all be ticked off and maybe get the refugees cut back to $1,012 and the pensioners up to $2,470. Then we can enjoy some of the money we were forced to submit to the Government over the last 40 or 50 or 60 years. And not to receive a increase for 2010 Vote them all out of office.

Please forward to every American to expose what our elected politicians

have been doing the past 11 years to over-taxed Americans.



SEND THIS TO EVERY AMERICAN TAXPAYER YOU KNOW



This is your Country.
Go to a Tea Party.

Oh, and by the way, the whole email is bullsh*t. It's been going around the Internet in some form or the other for six years.

But you know, don't let facts get in the way of good manufactured outrage.

snopes.com: Pensioners Should Apply as Refugees
 
#14
#14
Don't forget the rest, gs.



Oh, and by the way, the whole email is bullsh*t. It's been going around the Internet in some form or the other for six years.

But you know, don't let facts get in the way of good manufactured outrage.

snopes.com: Pensioners Should Apply as Refugees

I love snopes dopes, the two little commies that founded that site are infallible to a snopes dope. Actually they were a couple of liars when they covered for John Freaking Kerry and havn't changed a bit.

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Snopes.com changes hospital of Obama's birth 90 minutes after WND.COM article but has no conclusive evidence of correction according to Wikipedia.

I'll bet you also swear by 'FactCheck.org', the group that supposedly examined and authenticated the only so-called Obama birth certificate, the same factcheck group that is funded by the Annenberg foundation that William Ayres and Barrack Obama worked for handling hundreds of millions of dollars and wasted a lot of public funds teaching high school kids how to be dissidents rather than achieve academically??

You have to be a snopes dope to be an obot, no getting around it.
 
#15
#15
That's cute. And you even point to a couple of right wing birther sites to back up your argument. Hell, the Israel Insider even put the words "birth certificate" in quotes.

Bravo, sir. Bravo.
 
#16
#16
That's cute. And you even point to a couple of right wing birther sites to back up your argument. Hell, the Israel Insider even put the words "birth certificate" in quotes.

Bravo, sir. Bravo.

Easy for you to call these people 'birthers' when they raise a very valid constitutional question.

Snopes this; why would obozo spend $2+ million to defend himself in court when he could just show proof and be done with it??

Snopes is incompentent at best and that being generous.

Read all four pages and then come back and tell me snopes is an authority on anything except their own warped view of the world.

Here are just a few of many many examples where snopes has misrepresented the truth.

For instance, in October, Snopes listed as false the claim, in its own words, that "several [Internet] domain names related to the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on America were registered before the attack." CNSNews.com, a news site affiliated with the conservative Media Research Center, had reported in an article by Jeff Johnson that at least 17 domain names such as "worldtradetowerstrike.com," "attackontwintowers.com" and "wterrorattack2001.com" had been registered prior to the attack, some as early as July 2000. The Mikkelsons wrote that "this is a nothing story, promulgated by those looking for something sensational to write about."

They dismissed any notion the sites could be related to the terrorist attacks, declaring: "Given the prominence of New York, the prevalence of violence and horror in our popular entertainment, the millions of domain names registered over the years and the fact that the World Trade Center had already been attacked in 1993 [in the bombing that killed six people], that a handful of expired domain names used one or more of these elements should be no surprise."

But Snopes left out many facts included in the CNSNews piece that may have given the article more credibility. For one thing, the belief that these sites may have been related to the attacks was not mere speculation on the reporter's part, but the view of renowned terrorism expert Neil Livingstone, chief executive officer of the Washington-based counterterrorism and investigation company Global Options LLC. "This wasn't just some man off the street," says Johnson, CNSNews congressional bureau chief. Livingstone has written on terrorism for the New York Times and Washington Post and appeared on Nightline and Meet the Press.

Livingstone was quoted in the article as saying that terrorists like to take credit for their work and might have wanted to set up Websites for a propaganda campaign when they didn't know how successful the attacks would be. Johnson noted that bin Laden says on one of his videotapes that even he didn't think the strikes would be so successful. One of the main points of the article was Livingstone's outrage that the registration companies apparently didn't report the domain names to the FBI.

Snopes made much of the fact that the few date-related domain names did not refer to Sept. 11, but to Aug. 11 and Sept. 29. However, CNSNews had paraphrased Livingstone as saying these two dates "may have indicated the window of opportunity during which the attackers planned to strike."

CNSNews executive editor Scott Hogenson also says that Snopes mischaracterized the article as saying the sites were related to the terrorist attack when the story only raised the question of whether they might have been related to the attack. He tells Insight he e-mailed the Mikkelsons three times to correct the record and never received a reply. "They got it wrong, and they didn't even have the ethical fortitude to respond to detailed, accurate, polite queries. I think that's just low class," Hogenson says.

In a telephone interview with Insight, Barbara Mikkelson saw no need to change the status of the CNSNews report from "false" to "undetermined" or to include Livingstone's comments. "I don't know the man, and I don't know his credentials," she says. "Just because somebody's a known terrorism expert does not necessarily mean he will be right about everything."

As for not getting back to CNSNews, she says, "I don't recall it, and I will point out that we get hundreds of e-mails every day and there are just the two of us." Hogenson responds, "If they don't have time to correct their own mistakes, maybe they should not be in the business of trying to correct others." (When Insight used the e-mail link on the Snopes site to arrange its interview, Barbara Mikkelson got back to us within a day.)

Snopes also classifies as false the claim that "monies given to the September 11 Fund are being used to defend suspected terrorists." That is not actually what critics of the fund, such as the National Legal and Policy Center (NLPC), have said. They objected to a $171,000 grant the September 11 Fund gave to the New York Legal Aid Society, which defended eight detainees rounded up for visa violations in connection with the terrorist attacks. Snopes calls the NLPC's objections "foolheaded," and cites the legal-aid society's statement in a press release that none of the grant money was used to defend terrorist suspects.

"The money was used for civil legal assistance for families affected by the tragedy who needed help getting access to wills, bank accounts and insurance," the Mikkelsons wrote.

But NLPC President Peter Flaherty says Snopes should know very well that such money is fungible. "They use the same office space. They use the same phones. They use the same staff," Flaherty tells Insight. "It is by no means an urban legend; it's a serious issue." Flaherty says that most people who contributed to benefit the families of victims do no want funds going to agencies that might be defending the perpetrators. "This group obviously has a political, left-wing, anti-American agenda. What is the September 11 Fund doing providing assistance to them for any purpose?" he asks.

Even before it gained prominence with the World Trade Center attacks, Snopes had critics who accused it of cavalierly dismissing legitimate stories critical of the left as urban legends. This seemed particularly true with stories about Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton. Snopes got into a tussle with WorldNetDaily.com by listing as false an August 2000 story by Geoff Metcalf that Bill Clinton planned to go to Vietnam and that the Vietnamese flag would be raised above the American flag on a U.S. Navy ship. "Nothing that was described in the article actually happened, other than the trip to Vietnam," the Mikkelsons wrote just after Clinton arrived in Vietnam in November 2000. "No U.S. Navy ship flew an American flag subordinate to a Vietnamese flag," their Website said.

But Metcalf tells Insight the Clinton administration probably abandoned the flag protocol after the story created a public outrage. "According to people in the Navy, one of the reasons it didn't happen was because of the whole flag-flap ****storm that I created with the series of stories," Metcalf says. He cited Navy sources in the story, but said they didn't want to be identified in a story critical of the commander in chief. He later quoted Allan Fields, chief justice of the Marshall Islands Supreme Court, as saying that he, too, heard about the plans to lower the flag from high-ranking Navy officials on both the Atlantic and Pacific coasts. Like CNSNews' Hogenson, Metcalf says he e-mailed Snopes three times, asking that the status of the account at least be changed to "undetermined" but received no response from the Mikkelsons.

Yet Snopes seems to have different standards in evaluating stories involving conservatives. Take a bizarre new rumor asserting that Attorney General John Ashcroft believes that calico cats are a sign of the devil. This claim was first made in November by liberal financial writer Andrew Tobias, the treasurer of the Democratic National Committee, on his Website (andrewtobias.com). To say the least, Tobias was vague about his sources, writing only that "I got this odd story from someone who was definitely in a position to know and then confirmed it with someone else, also in a position to know." Given the stringent Mikkelson standards about anonymous sources in evaluating Metcalf's story, one would have expected them to classify the preposterous Tobias story as false. Instead, they labeled it undetermined. "What the game is here — if indeed there is one — we can't fathom," they wrote of the silly Tobias smear of Ashcroft, a cum laude graduate of Yale with a J.D. from the University of Chicago Law School.

Anyone who would quote them as a reliable source can't possibly have more than a single digit IQ.

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Wear it proudly, you've earned it and besides, it looks cute on you.

I'll admit it if I'm wrong, I'm not wrong about the commies running snopes.
 
#18
#18
Anyone who would quote them as a reliable source can't possibly have more than a single digit IQ.

If there's anyone on the entire internet who hasn't a leg to stand on when it comes to reliable sources, it's you.

What is it with the name calling on this board? Do you guys just get to a point where you just lose the ability to discuss something and resort to being 6 year olds?

I've really been trying to respect the name calling rule here, but I fear I'm fighting a losing battle.
 
#19
#19
If there's anyone on the entire internet who hasn't a leg to stand on when it comes to reliable sources, it's you.

What is it with the name calling on this board? Do you guys just get to a point where you just lose the ability to discuss something and resort to being 6 year olds?

I've really been trying to respect the name calling rule here, but I fear I'm fighting a losing battle.

Ooh, a martyr argument. Awesome.
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#20
#20
Immigration reform aka amnesty for illegal immigrants.

Remember the senate taking free health care for illegal aliens out of the bill?

Next move is to deem them legal, problem solved, plus they can garner maybe another million votes in 2012.

Californian liberals ecstatic about ozbamacare.

Of Course, the Barackstar has to create a new base of voters, so why not infranchise a whole group of people that cant vote, that way they will certainly vote for him
 
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#22
#22
Mn, you need to find an Obama dying on the cross pic for your avatar!

Then, instead of Vol Football Evangelist, you can put believe in gov't for salvation.
 
#23
#23
Mn, you need to find an Obama dying on the cross pic for your avatar!

Then, instead of Vol Football Evangelist, you can put believe in gov't for salvation.

Government be praised!

Now go to 10 Hail Pelosi's and recite the Obama Manifesto using the Reid Beads
 
#25
#25
If there's anyone on the entire internet who hasn't a leg to stand on when it comes to reliable sources, it's you.

What is it with the name calling on this board? Do you guys just get to a point where you just lose the ability to discuss something and resort to being 6 year olds?

I've really been trying to respect the name calling rule here, but I fear I'm fighting a losing battle.

No name calling, I only complemented you on your attire and how fitting it is.

You're fighting a losing battle if the discussion has anything to do with reality.

Of Course, the Barackstar has to create a new base of voters, so why not infranchise a whole group of people that cant vote, that way they will certainly vote for him


I meant to type in TEN million which is closer to reality and maybe twenty by the time acorn gets through counting.
 

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