Nice post from 'X'

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He makes a great point about our chances at a top 5 or 10 class next year being diminished by our pursuit of our needs at OL & DL and the way those positions are generally "star-starved" compared to more glamourous positions. Also gives info on alot of targets on OL & DL. (tonybasilio.com)
 
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PLEASE stop posting about "X"

Why should he stop posting about X? As long as he's not copying information from basilio's site there's no problem. I do hope you realize this 'X' isn't our X coach.

I agree that our class may not be one of the best because of our lineman needs. If we get a few of the top DL and OL recruits I see no reason why we can't have a class in the 5-8 range.
 
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He's not referring to the childish posters who use an X instead of using Kiffin.

"X" is Tony's source/insider.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I am sick of the other crap.
 
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He makes a great point about our chances at a top 5 or 10 class next year being diminished by our pursuit of our needs at OL & DL and the way those positions are generally "star-starved" compared to more glamourous positions. Also gives info on alot of targets on OL & DL. (tonybasilio.com)

Yea I read that too but I thought it wasn't a good point at all. I normally put anything "X" says in high regard but that doesn't make any sense. There are plenty of 4 and 5 star OL & DL recruits in any class. The highest rated OL class of 2010 was Auburn who finished 4th overall. DT class was Florida who had the 2nd best class. Highest DE class is Texas who finished 3rd overall. There is no reason that the pursuit of linemen should lower our class ranking unless we aren't getting good ones. "X" whiffed on this argument IMO
 
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As long as we get solid kids who this coaching staff can conform into great players.. I could care less about rankings..
 
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who cares if we finish in the top 5 in recruiting next year as long as our needs are addressed... thats how you get to where your lacking in depth if you go after all the flashy position guys like WR and RB and ATH. and dont go after the oline and dline guys as much.. but there are always several 5 and 4 star dlineman each year so dont worry
 
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If the next class composition is 12 offensive lineman, 10 defensive lineman, 2 linebackers and a QB I might go to a signing day party.
 
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how could Chaz Green sell his soul to the lies of Urban Meyer and betray his parents.....sorry, this thread just reminded me
 
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on Rivals you can have the same amount of players with the same average stars and have a different overall ranking- this is most likelyh attributed to the weight they give various positions. Someone please weigh in
 
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Yea I read that too but I thought it wasn't a good point at all. I normally put anything "X" says in high regard but that doesn't make any sense. There are plenty of 4 and 5 star OL & DL recruits in any class. The highest rated OL class of 2010 was Auburn who finished 4th overall. DT class was Florida who had the 2nd best class. Highest DE class is Texas who finished 3rd overall. There is no reason that the pursuit of linemen should lower our class ranking unless we aren't getting good ones. "X" whiffed on this argument IMO

Raw numbers of 4* and 5* players by offensive position not counting "athletes" who usually end up at WR, RB, or DB.

QB- 26
RB- 36
FB-3
WR- 47
TE- 15
OL- 49

Number of Rivals 4* and 5* ratios vs positions filled (one QB, one RB, 2 WR's, one TE, one FB, and 5 OL's).

QB- 26:1 = 26
RB- 36:1 = 36
FB- 3:1 = 3
WR- 47:2 = 23.5
TE- 15:1 = 15
OL- 49:5 = 9.9

IOW's, if you are HS TE you are more likely to be a 4* or 5* player than if you are an OL. Only the lowly FB has a lower chance. A RB has almost 400% better odds of being highly rated. A WR has more than double the chance while a QB has almost 3 times better odds.

Coupled with these facts, the recruiting svcs have the most difficulty predicting success for OL's and DT's. Almost none of those recruits will come into college ready to play like they are. There are huge physical transformations for these guys. Some who look almost ready out of HS may have just about tapped out their potential while some run of the mill 2* or 3* kid develops into a monster after being on a training table and S&C program for a year or two.


In short, NO, there aren't plenty of 4* and 5* OL's in any given class. And even if there were, you could easily sign 4 or 5 four star players and end up with a worse OL than if you'd signed all 3* guys.

Thankfully, I doubt Dooley is hung up on the subjective rankings Rivals and Scout put out on linemen.
 

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