No Touchy, in public schools

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OrangeEmpire

OrangeEmpire

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Let me start off my quoting Lewis "Chesty" Puller, a hero of mine.

"Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't
be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our
women and breed a hardier race!"
-Lt. Gen. Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC
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How soft is this country going to get, I know it is a consequence of the lawsuit-happy society we live in.

Guess what I just saw on CNN. There's a middle school in suburban D.C. where students touching each other is absolutely forbidden. Touching includes handshakes, high-fives, and hugs. Guess what the reason is? Give up? The reason given is that handshakes, high-fives, and hugs lead to injurious circumstances. For example, a high-five between two boys will make others want to join in and that will create a hallway jam, and since arms and handas are flying, someone might get hurt.

Also, I was flipping channels today and FOX news was running a story about this Harvard medical paper claiming more people are killed by collpasing "holes" in beach sand than by sharks every year so people shouldn't play in the sand at the beach any more without risking their lives. Our society is afraid of everything now. Kids can't be kids. People can't trust anything or anybody. It's pathetic. We are a nation that is driven by fear.

Thoughts?
 
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That is pathetic. I am going to move to the North Pole...oh wait...it prolly wont be there much longer
 
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No this nation is being driven by a civil rights movement that should have been over 30 years ago. Unfortunately people still think that people are offensive and therefore the government and other want to censor us to the point of blandness and being "politically correct". Oh well, I won't see how bad its gonna be in my life time but my grandchildren will in about 50 years. :mega_shok:
 
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What next? Security cams under the bleachers? This will only inspire kids to become more creative..
 
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Banning physical contact that leads to fighting is why kids use guns now. Used to be the worse thing that would happen to you is an ass whoopin' - now someone will pop a cap in yo ass.

Plus, I had to walk 10 miles to school, uphill both ways and when I came home all I had to eat was a frozen block of poison...
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
No this nation is being driven by a civil rights movement that should have been over 30 years ago. Unfortunately people still think that people are offensive and therefore the government and other want to censor us to the point of blandness and being "politically correct". Oh well, I won't see how bad its gonna be in my life time but my grandchildren will in about 50 years. :mega_shok:
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That may very well be true, but it is completely irrelevant to this particular discussion as the stories presented support the assertion that this country is driven by fear.
 
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emainvol said:
That may very well be true, but it is completely irrelevant to this particular discussion as the stories presented support the assertion that this country is driven by fear.
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Actually its more linked than one might think. I mean come on, why are some of our schools letting gay activists hold their little awareness days but yet a Christian gets sent home from school because of a T-Shirt??
 
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This thread made me think of a song to add to the VN top 50.

I Hate My Generation - Cracker
 
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Banning physical contact that leads to fighting is why kids use guns now. Used to be the worse thing that would happen to you is an ass whoopin' - now someone will pop a cap in yo ass.
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That's a good point.

Plus, I had to walk 10 miles to school, uphill both ways and when I came home all I had to eat was a frozen block of poison...
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That explains a lot.. :)
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Actually its more linked than one might think. I mean come on, why are some of our schools letting gay activists hold their little awareness days but yet a Christian gets sent home from school because of a T-Shirt??
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This case has nothing to do with political correctness, it is all about safety. It is linked in that it all involves school settings, but that's it.

Anyways, the one question I have regarding the Christian T-shirt is this, did it violate the school's dress code? The only thing that I heard about the incident was that she was sent home for refusing to change, not necessarily for wearing the shirt.

However, I am not defending the actions of the school, I think dress codes are complete violations of a young person's freedom of expression, as long as they exercise that freedom within reason.
 
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emainvol said:
This case has nothing to do with political correctness, it is all about safety. It is linked in that it all involves school settings, but that's it.

Anyways, the one question I have regarding the Christian T-shirt is this, did it violate the school's dress code? The only thing that I heard about the incident was that she was sent home for refusing to change, not necessarily for wearing the shirt.

However, I am not defending the actions of the school, I think dress codes are complete violations of a young person's freedom of expression, as long as they exercise that freedom within reason.
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doesn't this undermine your entire premise?
 
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OWB said:
Plus, I had to walk 10 miles to school, uphill both ways and when I came home all I had to eat was a frozen block of poison...
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That explains a lot.. :)
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It's from a Monty Python bit - a bunch a rich guys sitting on a cruise liner talking about how bad they had it when they were young. In this version, sulphuric acid is substituted for frozen poison.

The Scene: Four well-dressed men are sitting together at a vacation resort.
'Farewell to Thee' is played in the background on Hawaiian guitar.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:Aye, very passable, that, very passable bit of risotto.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:Nothing like a good glass of Château de Chasselas, eh, Josiah?
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:You're right there, Obadiah.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:Who'd have thought thirty year ago we'd all be sittin' here drinking Château de Chasselas, eh?
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:In them days we was glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:A cup o' cold tea.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:Without milk or sugar.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:Or tea.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:In a cracked cup, an' all.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:Oh, we never had a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:The best we could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:Because we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, "Money doesn't buy you happiness, son".
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:Aye, 'e was right.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:Aye, 'e was.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:I was happier then and I had nothin'. We used to live in this tiny old house with great big holes in the roof.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:House! You were lucky to live in a house! We used to live in one room, all twenty-six of us, no furniture, 'alf the floor was missing, and we were all 'uddled together in one corner for fear of falling.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:Eh, you were lucky to have a room! We used to have to live in t' corridor!
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:Oh, we used to dream of livin' in a corridor! Would ha' been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woke up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House? Huh.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:Well, when I say 'house' it was only a hole in the ground covered by a sheet of tarpaulin, but it was a house to us.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:We were evicted from our 'ole in the ground; we 'ad to go and live in a lake.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:You were lucky to have a lake! There were a hundred and fifty of us living in t' shoebox in t' middle o' road.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:Cardboard box?
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:Aye.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his belt.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:Well, of course, we had it tough. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit' bread knife.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you.
ALL:They won't!
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emainvol said:
no, there is a point where it becomes distracting to other students, if it comes to a point where it interferes with one's education, that is where the line must be drawn.
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given that the line is drawn by someone other than the wearer, isn't it suppression.

How on earth can what I wear interfere with someone's education? If they're truly about the education, it won't interfere. If they're exercising their chip, it can interfere.

Therein lies the problem, those drawing the lines see themselves as being equitable, but those following often have problems with the location of the lines.
 
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