Non-Lady Vol Basketball News 2023-24

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maple said:
I mean, let's not BS ourselves here: Syracuse WBB has zero history. They are not UConn, the LVs, South Carolina, etc. They were in the Big East 10 years and enjoyed a small part of the limelight (mostly thanks to bigger basketball schools), but that was then and this is now. You have to earn fans. Look, I get it, it's tough. God knows I have watched a decade+ of UConn football being absolute trash -- now they are enjoying a bit of an uptick but everyone involved is sitting there saying, we know we have to win people's respect, we know that fans want to see continued success, we're grateful to the people who do show up. That's exactly the proper kind of attitude to have. You're not owed anything, sorry to say.
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I find it interesting how in some places there is strong support for all kinds of sports, and in other locations the population supports some sports and not others.

I'm in my 70's and grew up in Connecticut. As a kid, I followed UConn men's basketball (not even sure if they had a woman's team when I was really young) and didn't pay any attention to Huskies football.

And while I'm glad to see that UConn football is doing better this season than in the past few years, the fact remains that Connecticut is just not a football state. (I played high school football and that version is popular but the state rules overseeing scholastic football don't make it easy for the state to develop strong homegrown talent. Relatively short seasons and when I was playing, there were no playoffs - that has now changed at least.)

Even during Edsall's first tenure when they went to the Fiesta Bowl and were briefly ranked in the Top Ten, I don't believe they ever sold out a home game.

And yes Maple, coaches are best off praising those who support their teams rather than bashing those who don't come.
 
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Lets Really Break this down:

Alabama has shot more 3's then us and has made more 3's and at a better %--- NYE!!!
Lady Vols has scored just 1 more point than Texas
Our defense is 2nd to last--- and yes it right in front of Arkansas that runs the same type of offense
9th in scoring Margin
7th in getting to the FT line but No. 2 behind Arkansas for FT%
12th in FG%
Dead last in FG%- Arkansas is in front of us.. same style of play
3pt% is worst than South Carolina and South Carolina cant shoot
3pt Defense is sitting No. 14
10th in Rebounding Offense
12th in Rebounding Defense
10th in Rebounding Margin
15th in Blocks
4th in Assists
1st in steals and 3rd in TO Margin
 
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cabbie191 said:
My oldest daughter lives in Syracuse and both my granddaughters (10 & 8) play several sports. The university has (or at least had last year) several attractive ticket bundling options to encourage attendance for a number of sports, women’s basketball included, which my kids took advantage of. I feel bad that despite periodic success on the court, SU has never had a culture of supporting women’s basketball.

I think Syracuse women’s basketball, when they were coached by Hillsman, blew a great opportunity to try and expand their fan base by refusing to schedule a homecoming game with UConn when Stewart was on the team. If I recall correctly, Connecticut scheduled with Colgate instead and played to a sellout crowd, while the same night, the Orange drew about 350 fans for their game which was in the Carrier Dome. And if you’re never seen the Dome, it seats over 30,000.

In any event, I agree with IVOCD, I completely get the frustration but barking out loud like this won’t help matters.
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Absolutely. It was just pettiness on the part of Coach Q, because let's be real, Stewart was never going to Cuse. She hardly slighted them. The city loves her; she's on a towering mural here in downtown with other local greats! Even the most casual sports fan here knows who she is. Imagine the Dome even filling to 50% capacity for her swan song season. Cuse WBB could have really parlayed that into excellence.

I remember watching the game at Colgate (on TV, because I couldn't get tickets!) and everyone gushed constantly about how amazing and wonderful Colgate was for scheduling with UConn so that Stewart could have a homecoming game. You can't buy that kind of publicity. It doesn't even matter that Colgate got blown out, it mattered that they showed class (not that Q was exactly a bastion of that, now that we know what he was like as a coach).

I know that Coach Jack has spoken very highly of great programs and even did a secret scrimmage with UConn last year. But the perception lingers that they are not a serious program. And its missteps like the one with Stewart and now with Coach's rant that hurt them. Just not a good look.
 
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knoxvol52 said:
L.A. is more of a Professional teams city. Dodgers, Lakers you can even throw in the Clippers as well.
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Yep. Lived about 2 hours north of LA for a time and no one there cared about college basketball. Most people even had no clue about UCLA's storied history with men. Honestly most people did not even really care about college football. It was like night and day from the East Coast.
 
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cabbie191 said:
I find it interesting how in some places there is strong support for all kinds of sports, and in other locations the population supports some sports and not others.

I'm in my 70's and grew up in Connecticut. As a kid, I followed UConn men's basketball (not even sure if they had a woman's team when I was really young) and didn't pay any attention to Huskies football.

And while I'm glad to see that UConn football is doing better this season than in the past few years, the fact remains that Connecticut is just not a football state. (I played high school football and that version is popular but the state rules overseeing scholastic football don't make it easy for the state to develop strong homegrown talent. Relatively short seasons and when I was playing, there were no playoffs - that has now changed at least.)

Even during Edsall's first tenure when they went to the Fiesta Bowl and were briefly ranked in the Top Ten, I don't believe they ever sold out a home game.

And yes Maple, coaches are best off praising those who support their teams rather than bashing those who don't come.
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Yes, UConn is a basketball state first, football is an afterthought. New England is like that in general, outside of pro sports. Personally I support all UConn sports because I am just a diehard fan. But in high school and college (MA), I never went to a single school football game.

That said, I had to do a bit of research, but it appears that the Rent was sold out for 6 games each for the 2004 and 2005 seasons! 😲 I do not expect anything like that these days or any time in the foreseeable future unless UConn football starts continuously competing with/beating some of the real powerhouses. At this point I'm just happy to have winning seasons and average 25,000 fans a game.
 
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The Back 2 Sports guy breaks down the UCLA/SC game



My own thoughts on this game:

SC will need Fulwiley with her A game and PaoPao on fire from 3 to make it a game. I also think Staley would be smart to play a zone with Betts manning the post for the Bruins, but we all know Dawn never does that. I’m not sure who will be best at containing Gardner, she is unique and a hard player to defend. Likely Hall gets the chance first. Kitts needs Watkins playing a strong 5 so she can be a 4, she won’t do well against Betts when she has that assignment. I think SC has the better overall defense however, so maybe they find a way on the road, I’m not optimistic but who knows.
 
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Ladyvols4ever! said:
Kinda surprised how well Oregon is doing.

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Graves is a good coach and always has been. Just got decimated by the portal after Sab was there. They had that one really good recruiting class because they all thought they were the next Ionescu but none of them were actually that good.

Taken time to rebuild after that mess.

I watched that game and thought they looked well balance. On the other hand I thought Auburn looked terrible. Couldn’t get anything going on offense except Scott shooting 3s. Blew a bunch of open layups.

Would face guard Scott and make it hard for her to catch. She plays off ball so I would just never let her get it back.
 
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VolBall09 said:
Graves is a good coach and always has been. Just got decimated by the portal after Sab was there. They had that one really good recruiting class because they all thought they were the next Ionescu but none of them were actually that good.

Taken time to rebuild after that mess.

I watched that game and thought they looked well balance. On the other hand I thought Auburn looked terrible. Couldn’t get anything going on offense except Scott shooting 3s. Blew a bunch of open layups.

Would face guard Scott and make it hard for her to catch. She plays off ball so I would just never let her get it back.
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If Auburn looked terrible and Oregon looked good then either Auburn isn't that bad or Oregon isn't that good. Oregon won by 2, 70-68.
 
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newladyvolfan said:
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Lets Really Break this down:

Alabama has shot more 3's then us and has made more 3's and at a better %--- NYE!!!
Lady Vols has scored just 1 more point than Texas
Our defense is 2nd to last--- and yes it right in front of Arkansas that runs the same type of offense
9th in scoring Margin
7th in getting to the FT line but No. 2 behind Arkansas for FT%
12th in FG%
Dead last in FG%- Arkansas is in front of us.. same style of play
3pt% is worst than South Carolina and South Carolina cant shoot
3pt Defense is sitting No. 14
10th in Rebounding Offense
12th in Rebounding Defense
10th in Rebounding Margin
15th in Blocks
4th in Assists
1st in steals and 3rd in TO Margin
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SC brought back all of their shooters and were one of the better 3 pt shooting teams in the nation last season. Yes, they have started off cold as hell this year however. Basketball shooting can sometimes be a fickle thing like golf, here one day gone the next. SC has the shanks currently. I’m somewhat of an expert on shanks myself.
 
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they have little talent, lost t UCLA by 50

total trivia Missouri has a player that has previously been at four other schools. should I so the research to determine how many different numbers has she had in her career? Honestly, difficult for MO to recruit
 
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Rooster1 said:
Neighbors has to be an awful coach. All of his players that transferred were sought after. Go figure. No way he survives after this season imo.
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Oh, they'll probably pull their act together juuuuust in time to break some fan base's hearts. Every year it seems Tennessee meets one of those teams on one of those days. You really never know. 🫨
 
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Rooster1 said:
The Back 2 Sports guy breaks down the UCLA/SC game



My own thoughts on this game:

SC will need Fulwiley with her A game and PaoPao on fire from 3 to make it a game. I also think Staley would be smart to play a zone with Betts manning the post for the Bruins, but we all know Dawn never does that. I’m not sure who will be best at containing Gardner, she is unique and a hard player to defend. Likely Hall gets the chance first. Kitts needs Watkins playing a strong 5 so she can be a 4, she won’t do well against Betts when she has that assignment. I think SC has the better overall defense however, so maybe they find a way on the road, I’m not optimistic but who knows.
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I like Dawn and SC and so want them to win and think they will, but you never know with this type of game.

As you know, SC is the last team -- last year -- to go undefeated, and any college basketball fan more than 4 years old knows how darn difficult it is to go undefeated for an entire season. This is why so relatively few teams, no matter HOW stacked with top players coached by top staff they are, have ever managed to do it. It happens, but it usually takes some luck -- like an effing 6'7" player who had never in her career taken a 3, taking and making one at the buzzer to not only win the game, but totally publicly crush a coach's heart and kill her career.

That ish happens.

Anyway ... whatever ... now I suddenly don't care. lol
 
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glv98 said:
If Auburn looked terrible and Oregon looked good then either Auburn isn't that bad or Oregon isn't that good. Oregon won by 2, 70-68.
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Where in there did I say they looked good? I said they looked well balanced. At this point in the season that gives them a good foundation to build on.

Auburn on the other hand is extremely one dimensional. They are going to need Scott to hit 7 threes a game to compete. They don’t compete on the glass, play lazy defense and foul like crazy.
 
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As the early recruiting period ends and the class rankings are made official, across the WBB landscape people are stunned after a recruiting blitz of the most historic WBB program of all-time headlines a stockpile of elite future talent heading to Rocky Top in a shocking turn of events unforeseen in the sport.
This morning, no coach in WBB (not a single one) had anticipated this immediate resurgence of elite recruiting of the LV program.
Every poster on here for months, years, said recruiting particularly on the high school level was the key factor.
Now let’s talk recruiting.
GBO!



 
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