not above bubba because

[volmainia2]

We would be above bubba if hooker had not got hurt, and everybody knows this to be true. Why has Michigan not dropped since there star RB had season ending surgery?

 

[vollygirl]

We would be above bubba if hooker had not got hurt, and everybody knows this to be true. Why has Michigan not dropped since there star RB had season ending surgery?

We would have been above them if we didn't lay down in Columbia.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

We would be above bubba if hooker had not got hurt, and everybody knows this to be true. Why has Michigan not dropped since there star RB had season ending surgery?

The QB position has outsized importance. In offensive production, but also in leadership. The entire offense tends to take on the character of the QB. Losing the QB has ripple effects that go far beyond their lost production. Chemistry changes, and can break down, with the starter out.

RBs, on the other hand, even very good ones, are more or less plug-and-play.

Show what I mean statistically:

-- Blake Corum, the Michigan RB in question, has 1,463 yards on 247 carries (~6 ypc). The team's other RB, Donovan Edwards, has 687 yards on 92 carries (~7.5 ypc). That's a ratio of production and effort of about 2.5 to 1. The team will miss Corum, but they have a good backup and the character of the offense will not change.
-- JJ McCarthy, Michigan's starting QB, has 2,215 yards on 271 pass attempts. His backup, Cade McNamara, 180 yards on 25 attempts. That's a greater than 10 to 1 ratio. Losing McCarthy would be huge.

And Hendon Hooker is even more important to and dominant in our offense than McCarthy is in theirs.

That's why.

 

[Vanhalo]

HH brought with him passing accuracy.
We don't have that anymore.
That is why won the game against Vandy on the ground.
We lost twice @ SC.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

We would be above bubba if hooker had not got hurt, and everybody knows this to be true. Why has Michigan not dropped since there star RB had season ending surgery?

Perhaps because the sub for their RB ran for 200+yds and 9.8yd/carry against the #2 team in the country. Basically, they didn't fall off a bit.

Did Milton's numbers look like Hooker's? That's not to diss Milton, he played fine but he's not Hooker and Vanderbilt isn't Ohio State.

 

[malibuvol]

We would be above bubba if hooker had not got hurt, and everybody knows this to be true. Why has Michigan not dropped since there star RB had season ending surgery?

Did you see what the other RB did against THE OSU??

 

[TheVolsFrog]

We should be above them because we beat them H2H and we beat both teams in common we played, they didn't.
Everything else is just feels and excuses

 

[VolFreakJosh]

We would have been above them if we didn't lay down in Columbia.

Bama has the exact same losses as us.

One to us and to LSU whom we destroyed on their home field.

Bryce Young played both of those games.

So no, your logic doesn’t qualify as being a good excuse.

We got screwed, period.

 

[vollygirl]

Bama has the exact same losses as us.

One to us and to LSU whom we destroyed on their home field.

Bryce Young played both of those games.

So no, your logic doesn’t qualify as being a good excuse.

We got screwed, period.

Bama tried to win all their games.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

Bama tried to win all their games.

They don’t hand out trophies for “trying.”

 

[TheVolsFrog]

Bama tried to win all their games.

So we handing out participation trophies now?
You tried guys, here's number #6 ranking for yall...
Guess beating teams H2H, beating teams in common and more quality wins means nothing any more

 

[vollygirl]

So we handing out participation trophies now?
You tried guys, here's number #6 ranking for yall...
Guess beating teams H2H, beating teams in common and more quality wins means nothing any more

How do neither of you understand my point?

 

[TheVolsFrog]

How do neither of you understand my point?

Maybe because there's no point to be made.
It used to be a win is a win, doesn't matter how you got it.

 

[loservol]

Maybe because there's no point to be made.
It used to be a win is a win, doesn't matter how you got it.

Ever noticed these special rules only come into play to punish UT?

 

[Creeker]

How do neither of you understand my point?

They have orange colored glasses. No one, can look at Tennessee right now today and Bama right now today and honestly say Tennessee is the better team. We beat them at home on a last second field goal with a healthy Heisman contender at QB. Since then, we have been utterly dismantled by an abysmal South Carolina offense and that QB we had before is gone. If you’re asking someone to rank which team is better, it’s Bama over Tennessee right now. Injuries matter and so do current trends when it comes to ranking.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

How do neither of you understand my point?

I don't think they misunderstand you so much as you and they are talking past each other.

The original thread question presumes both the Vols and Bama are 10-2. If we were 11-1, of course we'd be ahead of Bama. So the point you made kind of didn't really get at the OP's question.

And all the back and forth between you and these fellas since then has been based on you being on somewhat different tracks.

 

[Kylo]

We would have been above them if we didn't lay down in Columbia.

Thiiiiiissssss!!!

Tennessee screwed Tennessee.

All these tears over something so very clearly obvious.

 

[Johnnyreb#VFL]

How do neither of you understand my point?

I agree with you 100%. We lost badly to an INFERIOR South Carolina team. Bama had 2 quality losses. Not that difficult to understand

 

[Cartervol]

63 points given up late in a season is a wrap. Do it really early if you're going to shat the bed that bad.

 

[loservol]

I have been real down on then for losing the South Carolina game, but they still deserve a decent bowl trip and oppenent (not Tulane).

 

[VolFreakJosh]

They have orange colored glasses. No one, can look at Tennessee right now today and Bama right now today and honestly say Tennessee is the better team. We beat them at home on a last second field goal with a healthy Heisman contender at QB. Since then, we have been utterly dismantled by an abysmal South Carolina offense and that QB we had before is gone. If you’re asking someone to rank which team is better, it’s Bama over Tennessee right now. Injuries matter and so do current trends when it comes to ranking.

We’re not talking about NOW!

Why are some of you not understanding this?

We beat Bama when it mattered. Doesn’t matter how we won whether it was by a field goal or two TDs.

Discrediting wins over losses is the dumbest argument I’ve ever read on here.

 

[Iam4utalways]

We would have been above them if we didn't lay down in Columbia.

Is that fact or fiction? Did we lay down?

 

[The_Big_Orange]

If Milton had a ridiculously high completion percentage against candy and the tail end of USCjr then maybe….but he didn’t.
Not saying he can’t get it done or he won’t get it done. But watching him and watching Hooker show to obviously different offenses

 

[Herman Hickman]

Tennessee beat Alabama head to head.

Tennessee destroyed the highest ranked common opponent both teams played, the same opponent who defeated Alabama.

Tennessee is the superior team and proved such on the field.

The fact Earhole Nation is ranked above us has more to do with the fumes of a fast-fading reputation than anything they proved on the field this season.

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

Perhaps because the sub for their RB ran for 200+yds and 9.8yd/carry against the #2 team in the country. Basically, they didn't fall off a bit.

Did Milton's numbers look like Hooker's? That's not to diss Milton, he played fine but he's not Hooker and Vanderbilt isn't Ohio State.

They shouldn’t be in the injury counting business anyway. Because they are splitting hairs everyone has injuries. Some teams overcome them, some rally around adversity. I have seen it, sure they might lose but no team should lose their spot if they earned it because of a injury. I think it is pure bull crap!