Not sure where this belongs but it’s an interesting article for our liberal friends

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landscapingvol said:
He brings up some pretty intelligent points when discussing the drift of the Democratic Party to the Left.

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Basically, the writer is bitter over being fired by New York Magazine. He is deflecting criticism of the Republican Party's defense of far-right extremism, including the 1/6 incursion at the Capitol, and of their embrace of conspiracy theories such as Q'Anon, PizzaGate and the Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC nonsense, by playing a round of "what-about-ism". Nothing he says is necessarily wrong... but this doesn't serve as a defense of the right. The reality is extremist elements in both parties are increasingly finding their way into mainstream acceptance from party leadership.
 
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landscapingvol said:
He brings up some pretty intelligent points when discussing the drift of the Democratic Party to the Left.

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This is a very detailed explanation of why I cling to moderate conservativism like a drowning man to a life rope. I know I am critical of the extreme right, but the extreme left is just increasingly batpoop loony. And not in the cute kind of way.
 
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AshG said:
This is a very detailed explanation of why I cling to moderate conservativism like a drowning man to a life rope. I know I am critical of the extreme right, but the extreme left is just increasingly batpoop loony. And not in the cute kind of way.
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Sorry, but it just doesn't get any loonier than dressing up in costume and forcing your way into the House Chamber of the United States Capitol because you think you can overturn a presidential election.
 
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The Republican party left me a long time ago, that being said I've seen an incremental shift by the left toward the fringe over the past 12 or so years with a wild swing left in the last 5 years. The Democrat party is being coopted by the extremes.

The reason for the distrust from some on the left and many on the right has been politicizing agencies and in some cases weaponizing them. Much like the Patriot Act that's a can of worms that never gets closed once open.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Sorry, but it just doesn't get any loonier than dressing up in costume and forcing your way into the House Chamber of the United States Capitol because you think you can overturn a presidential election.
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It actually does AOC and squad are batshart crazy, and they are helping set the agenda for a nation, the loons you described are absolutely powerless, just ask Joe..... They didn't even have warplanes!
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Basically, the writer is bitter over being fired by New York Magazine. He is deflecting criticism of the Republican Party's defense of far-right extremism, including the 1/6 incursion at the Capitol, and of their embrace of conspiracy theories such as Q'Anon, PizzaGate and the Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC nonsense, by playing a round of "what-about-ism". Nothing he says is necessarily wrong... but this doesn't serve as a defense of the right. The reality is extremist elements in both parties are increasingly finding their way into mainstream acceptance from party leadership.
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I'd say you're a prime example of who he's taking about. You just can't let go of right and left. I can't reconcile how a person can claim that they're intelligent and can't realize there's no difference between Pelosi, McCarthy, Schumer, or McConnell. When will people realize that we shouldn't be against each other? If you think any of these people are for you or anybody else in this country, you're insane.
 
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KB5252 said:
It actually does AOC and squad are batshart crazy, and they are helping set the agenda for a nation, the loons you described are absolutely powerless, just ask Joe..... They didn't even have warplanes!
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Democrats have AOC, Omar and Tlaib, and Republicans have Marjorie Taylor Greene, Louie Gohmert and Paul Gosar...
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Democrats have AOC, Omar and Tlaib, and Republicans have Marjorie Taylor Greene, Louie Gohmert and Paul Gosar...
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Ding ding ding. They both suck.

One if those groups carrots much more weight in the party and has real power. The other, not so much.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Basically, the writer is bitter over being fired by New York Magazine. He is deflecting criticism of the Republican Party's defense of far-right extremism, including the 1/6 incursion at the Capitol, and of their embrace of conspiracy theories such as Q'Anon, PizzaGate and the Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC nonsense, by playing a round of "what-about-ism". Nothing he says is necessarily wrong... but this doesn't serve as a defense of the right. The reality is extremist elements in both parties are increasingly finding their way into mainstream acceptance from party leadership.
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Never claimed it was a defense of the right but many of his points are pretty mainstream with the Left not just fringe kooks like Qanon and Seth Rich.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Sorry, but it just doesn't get any loonier than dressing up in costume and forcing your way into the House Chamber of the United States Capitol because you think you can overturn a presidential election.
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Those are the fringe right nut jobs, many of the points he brings up are not on the fringes of the Left but very wildly held beliefs by the Democrat Party as a whole.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Those are the fringe right nut jobs, many of the points he brings up are not on the fringes of the Left but very wildly held beliefs by the Democrat Party as a whole.
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Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell can't be dismissed as just being on "the fringe". They both represented the 2020 Trump Campaign in court. They both were invited into the Oval Office as trusted aides of the president.

Per a poll from Hill-HarrisX, which was posted on thehill.com on June 18th, 30% of GOP voters believe that Donald Trump will 'likely' be reinstated as President of the United States some time in the year 2021.... even though the United States Constitution doesn't provide any such mechanism for a former president's reinstatement. The highest profile person who has been promoting this impossible belief is Sidney Powell. Per reports in The Washington Post, Rudy Giuiliani was also advising Trump that as Vice President, Mike Pence had the unilateral authority on January 6th to reject electoral votes from states that his campaign had been contesting in court. Trump trusted this false assessment. There is no doubt that the Trump presidency went a long way towards bringing wild conspiracy theories into the consciousness of the mainstream American public, and gave the advocates of these theories a White House platform.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Sorry, but it just doesn't get any loonier than dressing up in costume and forcing your way into the House Chamber of the United States Capitol because you think you can overturn a presidential election.
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That guy is mentally ill….the shaman …..but don’t be shocked when things get really out of control due to liberal leftist BS. What happened 1/6 was a frat party compared to what’s potentially coming.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Never claimed it was a defense of the right but many of his points are pretty mainstream with the Left not just fringe kooks like Qanon and Seth Rich.
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I strongly disagree that Q'Anon was just a fringe theory within the Republican Party. Gen. Michael Flynn was a devout believer in Q'Anon. He was also (albeit briefly) a National Security Adviser to President Trump, who had frequently spoken at campaign rallies for Trump in 2016. There are at least three Republican members of the House of Representatives (Marjorie Taylor Greene, Paul Gosar and Lauren Boebert) who have publicly expressed belief in Q'Anon theories.

The Seth Rich murder conspiracy theory was a frequent topic of conversation on Sean Hannity's show. Is Hannity on the "fringe" of the Republican Party? I don't think so.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell can't be dismissed as just being on "the fringe". They both represented the 2020 Trump Campaign in court. They both were invited into the Oval Office as trusted aides of the president.

Per a poll from Hill-HarrisX, which was posted on thehill.com on June 18th, 30% of GOP voters believe that Donald Trump will 'likely' be reinstated as President of the United States some time in the year 2021.... even though the United States Constitution doesn't provide any such mechanism for a former president's reinstatement. The highest profile person who has been promoting this impossible belief is Sidney Powell. Per reports in The Washington Post, Rudy Giuiliani was also advising Trump that as Vice President, Mike Pence had the unilateral authority on January 6th to reject electoral votes from states that his campaign had been contesting in court. Trump trusted this false assessment. There is no doubt that the Trump presidency went a long way towards bring wild conspiracy theories into the consciousness of the mainstream American public, and gave the advocates of these theories a White House platform.
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Why do you think I am here to defend Trump? I don’t like him and didn’t vote for him. You continue to dance around the very valid points brought forth by the author by attacking his character and circling back to Trump. Sidney Powell?? Nearly every major Democrat supports the issues addressed in the article other than maybe Joe Manchin and a handful of others. You act as though these “woke” ideas are limited AOC and her comrades. It is now mainstream in the Democrat Party
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Democrats have AOC, Omar and Tlaib, and Republicans have Marjorie Taylor Greene, Louie Gohmert and Paul Gosar...
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You forgot Hank Johnson, Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Shumer, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Eric Swalwell, Shelia Jackson-Lee, Steve Cohen, Adam Schiff and Cori Bush…. Among others on the Democratic side …… they’ve definitely got the majority of goofy SOBs
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I strongly disagree that Q'Anon was just a fringe theory within the Republican Party. Gen. Michael Flynn was a devout believer in Q'Anon. He was also (albeit briefly) a National Security Adviser to President Trump, who had frequently spoken at campaign rallies for Trump in 2016. There are at least three Republican members of the House of Representatives (Marjorie Taylor Greene, Paul Gosar and Lauren Boebert) who have publicly expressed belief in Q'Anon theories.

The Seth Rich murder conspiracy theory was a frequent topic of conversation on Sean Hannity's show. Is Hannity on the "fringe" of the Republican Party? I don't think so.
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You think Qanon is mainstream in Republican Party? Nonsense and again Sean Hannity isn’t the Speaker of the House or the Senate Majority leader, both of whom support the “woke” agenda as well as the VP. Nearly every major Democrat supports the agenda and you retort with a radio/tv personality and Michael Flynn?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
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Sure it is 😂 I had never even heard of it until someone posted a thread about it on here and I happened to click it weeks later. You have still never addressed the issues brought up by the author. I can only speculate that you support them like most on the Left
 
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The crux of it on social issues is that liberals strive to be more inclusive. Conservatives tend to be less likely to evolve on social issues. Against gay marriage. Against anti discrimination laws. etc. It is a "If ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality. They fail to recognize or even consider that it may be "broke" for some citizens.

On the far left are people that want to toss the baby out with the bath water. Admittedly, there are issues with the system, but it is by and large a good system that just needs tweeking.

I still believe the majority of Americans, if they truly looked at the beliefs they hold dear would find themselves in the middle regardless of party affiliation. People have been told they cannot be a good R or D unless they buy into all of the official party talking points. I find it hard to believe that anyone thinks that their party has the best answer on EVERY issue. However, the people in power tell their faithful that it is a slippery slope and compromise is bad.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Sorry, but it just doesn't get any loonier than dressing up in costume and forcing your way into the House Chamber of the United States Capitol because you think you can overturn a presidential election.
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It was disgusting watching it.

Over a billion dollars in damages.
The looting of businesses.
Burning down the city.
Setting up autonomous zones.
Trying to burn down federal buildings with people inside them.
A man murdered over a television.
Hundreds of cops murdered and injured.
Innocent people beaten because of the color of their skin.
All the televisions and shoes stolen.

Thank God with all the violence happening that day not 1 member of congress was injured.
 
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