Obama Considers Recess Appointments

[CSpindizzy]

Obama Warns GOP He Will Use Recess Appointments

Harry Reid with Obama as President:Reid said last week that he’s “tried hard” to avoid the need for President Barack Obama to make recess appointments, but he added: “What alternative do we have?

With Bush as President: Harry Reid used to consider recess appointments “an end run around the Senate and the Constitution” — so much so that he kept the chamber open during breaks to prevent President George W. Bush from making any more of them.

“While an election year looms, significant progress can still be made on nominations,” Reid said. “I am committed to making that progress if the President will meet me halfway. But that progress can’t be made if the President seeks controversial recess appointments and fails to make Democratic appointments to important commissions.”
Biden in 2007:
“There will be no recess appointments on my committee or they will not get another single nominee for anything at all from the Committee on Foreign Relations,” Biden declared. “I made that clear to the secretary of State. Absolutely, positively clear. Not a one. Mark me down. Not a one.”

Leahy in 2007: Recess appointments are “one of the reasons why relationships are so poor with the (Bush) White House even among Republican senators,” said Judiciary Chairman Patrick J. Leahy, D-Vt., “They don’t talk to either the Republican or Democratic leadership of committees when they do it,” Leahy said. “I think it shows the arrogant disdaining of the Congress.”

Kent Conrad in 2007: he would prefer that Bush let the Senate exercise its advice-and-consent role.
“Are there reasons for recess appointments? Sure there are, in terms of national security. But there’s a reason for this process. There’s a reason the Founding Fathers set all of this up,” he said.

 

[droski]

obama and bush might as well be blood brothers at this point.

 

[BigPapaVol]

obama and bush might as well be blood brothers at this point.

How on earth the dems ever float candidates bad enough that Bush won, twice? I know how Obama won.
Posted via VolNation Mobile

 

[volinbham]

I watched Jon Stewart's interview with O'Reilly and he was calling for Obama to take on more executive power claiming he shouldn't think of govt as 3 co-equal branches.

Wasn't he screaming bloody murder at Bush's expansion of executive power?

Is it any wonder that people are disgusted with government?

 

[volinbham]

Apparently the campaign adds suggesting McCain would be a 3rd Bush term had a typo in them.

 

[rjd970]

How on earth the dems ever float candidates bad enough that Bush won, twice? I know how Obama won.
Posted via VolNation Mobile

The really sad part is evidently they were the best the dems had.

 

[droski]

How on earth the dems ever float candidates bad enough that Bush won, twice? I know how Obama won.
Posted via VolNation Mobile

beats me, but i'm very happy to see that obama's supposed moral authority over bush was pure campaign talk. just like bush, he'll do whatever he wants, no matter the constitution, opinion polls, or pesky little things like congressional approval. he said today that if he coudl pass the healthcare bill without congress he would have already done so. wow.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Sounds like many of you don't understand INCREMENTAL "change."
Posted via VolNation Mobile

 

[CSpindizzy]

It was all of those fear mongers and haters who warned us of this before the election. Why didn't we listen to those voices of reason? (sarcasm here of course)

 

[lumberjack4]

It was all of those fear mongers and haters who warned us of this before the election. Why didn't we listen to those voices of reason? (sarcasm here of course)

What are you talking about? I still get a tingle in my leg when I hear him speak

 

[rjd970]

beats me, but i'm very happy to see that obama's supposed moral authority over bush was pure campaign talk. just like bush, he'll do whatever he wants, no matter the constitution, opinion polls, or pesky little things like congressional approval. he said today that if he coudl pass the healthcare bill without congress he would have already done so. wow.

Bush was quoted at one time saying something like being a dictator would just be easier.

I've lost all hope for the office of POTUS. At this point, just give me somebody that doesn't REALLY screw things up. Incompetence and moral cowardice are to be expected.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Bush was quoted at one time saying something like being a dictator would just be easier.

I've lost all hope for the office of POTUS. At this point, just give me somebody that doesn't REALLY screw things up. Incompetence and moral cowardice are to be expected.

Again, gridlock is easily the best option in DC. Either party unchecked is an awful situation for the majority, who trend toward the center.
Posted via VolNation Mobile

 

[droski]

bingo. the american economy generally takes care of itself. just don't put a wrench in the machine. it's really not that complicated.

 

[westsidefan]

maybe people like richard shelby from alabama should stop blocking so many appointments forcing 60 votes to approve them just so he can get a pork project for his state

 

[crazyguy]

yeah, give up on the way the system works...heck, let's just make it a one party system.

 

[MG1968]

maybe people like richard shelby from alabama should stop blocking so many appointments forcing 60 votes to approve them just so he can get a pork project for his state

maybe Obama should stop nominating leftist dirtbags

 

[Chattaben]

The whole system is broken. I read somewhere that ever since the Democrats took over in 2007, the Republican minority has used the cloture vote (60+ rule) over 150 times in 2 years. That's more than entire decades in the past. It was used an average of 6-7 times a year between the 60s-80s. Something has got to give. I expect that when the Republicans take back control of the Senate, Dems will play the same games the Repubs did. Its sad really. No matter what party you back..

 

[lumberjack4]

Democrats could have passed a lot more crap if their ideas didn't suck so bad that fellow Democrats didn't even want to vote for it.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Does a recess appointment mean while he's at the gym sucking down his next cig?
Posted via VolNation Mobile

 

[volinbham]

The whole system is broken. I read somewhere that ever since the Democrats took over in 2007, the Republican minority has used the cloture vote (60+ rule) over 150 times in 2 years. That's more than entire decades in the past. It was used an average of 6-7 times a year between the 60s-80s. Something has got to give. I expect that when the Republicans take back control of the Senate, Dems will play the same games the Repubs did. Its sad really. No matter what party you back..

The 90s - 2006 is conveniently left out of that comparison.

The Dem minority ramped this up and the Rep minority has followed their lead.

 

[Chattaben]

The 90s - 2006 is conveniently left out of that comparison.

The Dem minority ramped this up and the Rep minority has followed their lead.

91-92: 60 times
93-94: 78 times
95-96: 82 times
97-98: 70 times
99-00: 72 times
01-02: 74 times
03-04: 62 times
05-06: 65 times
07-08: 141 times

It definitely increased in the 90s and 2000s but there has been a pretty dramatic spike in the last 2.

 

[volinbham]

91-92: 60 times
93-94: 78 times
95-96: 82 times
97-98: 70 times
99-00: 72 times
01-02: 74 times
03-04: 62 times
05-06: 65 times
07-08: 141 times

It definitely increased in the 90s and 2000s but there has been a pretty dramatic spike in the last 2.

Wait - so the R minority was using it to block Bush admin appointments?

 

[BigPapaVol]

Wait - so the R minority was using it to block Bush admin appointments?

Of course it was. What else would explain a spike like that after the democrats took over both houses of congress?

 

[westsidefan]

maybe Obama should stop nominating leftist dirtbags

many of those "leftist dirtbags" have bipartisan support

he put a blanket hold on over 60 appointees to get a pork project

 

[MG1968]

many of those "leftist dirtbags" have bipartisan support

he put a blanket hold on over 60 appointees to get a pork project

doesn't mean they're not leftist dirtbags. Eric Holder received bipartisan support and you see where that's gotten us. Just because someone is qualified to hold an office doesn't mean that they should hold an office.

and, the leftist dirtbag of the moment is this John Decker guy (or whatever) nominated for the NLRB. He's on record stating that business owners should have no say in whether or not their employees unionize AND that employees must take union representation whether they want it or not.