Obama has been lying to us about healthcare reform. (big surprise huh?)

[gsvol]

From a fact sheet on Obama's campaign website (PDF link):

Obama’s plan will save a typical family up to $2,500 on premiums by bringing the health care system into the 21st century: cutting waste, improving technology, expanding coverage to all Americans, and paying for some high-cost cases.

However, the CBO just produced this analysis of the senate health care bill (another PDF link) which concludes that the Senate health care bill will raise the average family's health care premiums by $2,300.

 

[droski]

you obviously don't care about hte children

 

[MG1968]

Obama caught in a lie?? But, he went to Harvard!!!

 

[paul1454]

To be fair, I think that from the perspective which he views the proposal the cost will decrease. With the refundable tax credit offered to families with income up to 88K the direct cost incurred by a family to purchase health insurance will decrease. Unfortunately, that is only half the story. It isn't like the government money comes out of thin air. You have to look to the underlying cost, not just from the perspective of the health insurance consumer. Every study reviewing the current proposals - from PricewaterhouseCoopers to the recent CBO report - has noted that the true cost of health care will increase at an even greater pace than before.

 

[gsvol]

you obviously don't care about hte children

You gotta hand it to libs, they dole out guilt trips like they owned transcendental meditation airhead lines.

Obama caught in a lie?? But, he went to Harvard!!!

8 Lies in the President’s Healthcare Reform Proposal

To be fair, I think that from the perspective which he views the proposal the cost will decrease. With the refundable tax credit offered to families with income up to 88K the direct cost incurred by a family to purchase health insurance will decrease. Unfortunately, that is only half the story. It isn't like the government money comes out of thin air. You have to look to the underlying cost, not just from the perspective of the health insurance consumer. Every study reviewing the current proposals - from PricewaterhouseCoopers to the recent CBO report - has noted that the true cost of health care will increase at an even greater pace than before.

What about the proposed 40% tax for those with good insurace?? (excluding union members though)

House Democratic leaders have been searching for a way to ensure that any move they make to approve the Senate-passed $871 billion health care reform bill is followed by Senate action on a reconciliation package of adjustments to the original bill.

One idea is to have the House and Senate act on reconciliation prior to House action on the Senate’s original health care bill.

Information Republicans say they have received from the Senate Parliamentarian’s Office eliminates that option.

House Democratic leaders last week began looking at crafting a legislative rule that would allow the House to approve the Senate health care bill, but not forward it to Obama for his signature until the Senate clears the reconciliation package.

Technically Biden can overrule the parlimentarian in senate matters, not sure about house activities.

I think I hear someone singing.

Obamacare RIP.

 

[gsvol]

Democratic leaders have given up trying to satisfy Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., and the dozen or so House Dems who want strict language barring abortion funding in the health care bill.............without the dozen or so Stupak Democrats, it’s very, very hard to see how Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., rounds up a majority.

The House Democrats' 'no' votes are piling up on healthcare reform.......

 

[T-TownVol]

In his pep rally yesterday, BHO said that health care costs for employer provided plans will go down 300%.

I am going to make approximately 100K per employee that I cover. :dance2: They are going to pay me to insure them!

 

[gsvol]

In his pep rally yesterday, BHO said that health care costs for employer provided plans will go down 3,000%.

I am going to make approximately 100K per employee that I cover. :dance2: They are going to pay me to insure them!

He's saying the watermelon is ripe??? :whistling:

Here is where the legislation now stands.

The Slaughter Solution comes in three flavors: in the first, the rule simply self-enacts the Senate bill and sends it along to the President for his signature; the second deems the Senate healthcare bill adopted only upon House passage of the reconciliation package; and the third, most egregious option, conditions adoption of the Senate healthcare package on the Senate passage of the reconciliation sidecar.

Only then would the Senate-passed healthcare bill be approved by the House. In all three of these scenarios, the Senate-passed healthcare bill wouldn’t be given an up or down vote on its own.